List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part 3

giantroo · Oct 4, 2024

Picks	Clubs	Result
15-10-24 - Pick Trade	StKilda & Brisbane	Brisbane receives St Kilda's R2 (27) Pick St Kilda receives Brisbane's R2 (32,45) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Essendon	Melbourne receives Essendon's R1 (9), 2025 R3 Pick Essendon receives Melbourne's 2025 F1, 2024 R2 (28,40), R3(46,54), R4 (65) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Adelaide	Adelaide receives Melbourne's 2025 3R Pick Melbourne receives Adelaide's 2024 3R(46) Pick
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Brisbane & Richmond	Richmond receives Brisbane's 1R Pick (pick 20) Brisbane receives Richmond's 2R (32,42), 3R (43,45) Picks
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Brisbane	Carlton receives Brisbane's R4 (73), 2025 R2 Pick Brisbane receives Carlton's R2(34), R4(66)
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Hawthorn	Carlton receives Hawthorn's R1(14) pick Hawthorn receives Carlton's 2025 R1, R2 (tied to Carlton) picks

Player	Original Club	Trade/FA	New Club	Result
Daniel Rioli	Richmond	Trade	Gold Coast	Gold Coast receive Richmond's Daniel Rioli 17 Daniel Rioli Age 27 Ht 179cm Wt 78kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 11.2 3 K 5.8 2 HB 5.4 4 M 2.7 3 T 3.2 5 MG 179.2 3 D 8.1 2 K 4.9 2 HB 3.3 2 M 2.0 2 T 2.6 4 MG 144.9 3 D 9.0 3 K 3.8 2 HB 5.2 4 M 0.8 1 T 3.8 5 MG 160.2 3 , R4 (51,61,70,76) Picks Richmond receive GC's R1(6), R2(23) Picks
Shai Bolton	Richmond	Trade	Fremantle	Fremantle receive Richmond's Shai Bolton 29 Shai Bolton Age 25 Ht 176cm Wt 77kg Pos. M/F Career Season Last 5 D 12.3 3 K 6.9 3 HB 5.4 4 M 2.8 3 T 2.9 4 CL 1.4 4 D 12.7 3 K 9.2 4 HB 3.5 2 M 3.0 3 T 2.7 4 CL 1.8 4 D 9.2 3 K 4.6 2 HB 4.6 4 M 2.0 3 T 2.6 4 CL 0.0 1 , R1(14), 2025 R3 Pick. Richmond receive Fremantle's R1(10,11,18) Picks
Harry Sharp	Brisbane & Melbourne	Trade	Melbourne	Melbourne receives Brisbane's Harry Sharp, 2025 R3 pick (tied to Brisbane) Brisbane receives Melbourne's 2024 R3(49), 2025 R3 pick (tied to Essendon).
Dan Houston Jack Lukosius 13 Jack Lukosius Age 24 Ht 195cm Wt 91kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 3 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 4 MG 369.3 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 2 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 3 MG 369.3 5 D 13.6 4 K 11.2 4 HB 2.4 3 M 4.2 4 T 2.2 4 MG 358.0 5 Joe Richards Rory Atkins 2 Rory Atkins Age 30 Ht 185cm Wt 82kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 19.9 5 K 12.1 4 HB 7.9 5 M 4.6 4 T 1.9 4 MG 367.4 5 D 9.0 2 K 5.0 2 HB 4.0 3 M 0.3 1 T 2.7 4 MG 147.7 3 D 14.2 4 K 8.8 4 HB 5.4 4 M 4.0 4 T 1.2 3 MG 217.8 4 John Noble 9 John Noble Age 27 Ht 180cm Wt 72kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 16.3 4 K 9.2 4 HB 7.1 4 M 3.5 4 T 2.0 4 MG 186.1 3 D 14.2 3 K 7.7 3 HB 6.5 4 M 3.2 3 T 1.8 3 MG 149.7 3 D 18.8 5 K 11.0 4 HB 7.8 5 M 4.0 4 T 2.2 4 MG 229.8 4	Port Adelaide Gold Coast Collingwood Gold Coast Collingwood	Trade	Collingwood Port Adelaide Port Adelaide Port Adelaide Gold Coast	Port Adelaide receives GC's R1(13),GC R2(29,36), GC R3(50) Picks, Jack Lukosius 13 Jack Lukosius Age 24 Ht 195cm Wt 91kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 3 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 4 MG 369.3 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 2 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 3 MG 369.3 5 D 13.6 4 K 11.2 4 HB 2.4 3 M 4.2 4 T 2.2 4 MG 358.0 5 , Joe Richards, Rory Atkins 2 Rory Atkins Age 30 Ht 185cm Wt 82kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 19.9 5 K 12.1 4 HB 7.9 5 M 4.6 4 T 1.9 4 MG 367.4 5 D 9.0 2 K 5.0 2 HB 4.0 3 M 0.3 1 T 2.7 4 MG 147.7 3 D 14.2 4 K 8.8 4 HB 5.4 4 M 4.0 4 T 1.2 3 MG 217.8 4 Gold Coast receives Collingwood's 2025 F1, PA's 2025 F1, PA R2(39) Collingwood receive Dan Houston 5 Dan Houston Age 27 Ht 186cm Wt 88kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 18.2 5 K 11.8 4 HB 6.4 4 M 4.9 5 T 3.0 5 MG 289.2 4 D 17.6 4 K 11.6 4 HB 6.0 3 M 3.3 3 T 3.4 4 MG 319.9 5 D 16.6 4 K 12.4 5 HB 4.2 4 M 7.0 5 T 2.6 4 MG 279.8 5 , PA R4(58)
Matt Owies Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4 K 7.8 3 HB 7.9 5 M 3.2 3 T 2.6 4 MG 222.2 3 D 14.6 4 K 6.8 3 HB 7.9 4 M 3.8 4 T 1.8 3 MG 191.9 3 D 14.4 4 K 6.2 3 HB 8.2 5 M 1.6 2 T 1.8 4 MG 224.2 4	Carlton & Richmond	Trade	West Coast	Round 1 pick (3), Round 4 (63,68) to Carlton Round 1 Pick (14) to Richmond Round 1 Pick(12), R4 (73) to WCE Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4 K 7.8 3 HB 7.9 5 M 3.2 3 T 2.6 4 MG 222.2 3 D 14.6 4 K 6.8 3 HB 7.9 4 M 3.8 4 T 1.8 3 MG 191.9 3 D 14.4 4 K 6.2 3 HB 8.2 5 M 1.6 2 T 1.8 4 MG 224.2 4 to WCE Matt Owies to WCE
Isaac Cumming	GWS	UFA	Adelaide	End of Round 1 Compo (pick 21) to GWS
Josh Battle	St Kilda	UFA	Hawthorn	Round 1 Compo (Pick 8) to St.Kilda
Tom Campbell	St Kilda	DFA	Melbourne	No Compensation
Harry Perryman	GWS	UFA	Collingwood	Round 1 Compo (Pick 16) to GWS
Elliott Himmelberg	Adelaide	UFA	Gold Coast	No Compensation
Nick Haynes	GWS	UFA	Carlton	No Compensation
Alex Neal-Bullen	Melbourne	Trade	Adelaide	Round 2 Pick (28) to Melbourne
Jack Darling	West Coast	Trade	North Melbourne	Round 4 pick (68) to WCE
Jack Graham	Richmond	UFA	West Coast	End of Round 2 Compo (Pick 42) to Richmond

Brisbane Lions trade Harry Sharp and its 2025 Round 3 pick (tied to Brisbane) to Melbourne for its 2024 Round 3 pick (currently 49) and its 2025 Round 3 pick (tied to Essendon).
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Collingwood get Houston and Pick 58 and give up: a future first round pick, Joe Richards to Port and John Noble to Gold Coast

Port get Jack Lukosius, Richards, Rory Atkins, picks 13, 29, 36 and 50 in this year’s draft while letting Houston go to Collingwood, their future first round pick, pick 39 in this year’s goes to Gold Coast and pick 58 goes to Collingwood.

Gold Coast get Noble, a future first round pick from each of Collingwood and Port Adelaide, and pick 39 (received from Port), while the Suns send Lukosius and Atkins, picks 13, 29 and 50 to Port Adelaide.
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St Kilda trade its Round Two selection (currently 27) to the Brisbane Lions for its Round Two selection (currently 32) and its Round Three selection (currently 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Three club trade approved.Richmond trade Liam Baker to the West Coast Eagles.West Coast Eagles trade its Round One selection (currently 3) and both its Round Four selections (currently 63 and 68) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft to Carlton.
Carlton trade Matthew Owies, its Round One selection (currently 12) and its Round Four selection (currently 73) to West Coast Eagles. Carlton trade its Round One selection (currently 14 ) to Richmond.
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Melbourne trade its two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 28 and 40), two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 46 and 54), its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 65) and its 2025 Round 1 selection to Essendon.
Essendon trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 9) and its 2025 Round 3 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively to Melbourne.
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Melbourne trade its 2025 Round 3 selection to the Adelaide Crows for its 2024 Round 3 selection (currently 46) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Brisbane trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 20) to Richmond for two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 32 and 42) and two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 43 and 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Carlton trade its 2024 Round 2 selection (currently 34) and 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 66) to Brisbane for its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 73) and 2025 Round 2 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Carlton trade its 2025 Round 1 selection and 2025 Round 2 selection (tied to Carlton) to Hawthorn for its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 14) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.

The Nostradamus · 2024-10-17T19:41:07+1100

DuckYeah said:
Richmond will want pick 2, its unlikely they would want to take all those picks in one draft, be a list manager’s nightmare.

Whats the best we’ll ask for 6 n 10 but will settle for 6 and 11. Might end up costing us a future 4th

as long as they don’t touch my f3

Sillygit · 2024-10-17T19:45:31+1100

DuckYeah said:
Might end up costing us a future 4th

r00boy96 · 2024-10-17T19:46:10+1100

What's the best pick 2 trade down offer anyone has posted on here? I can't be arsed going through the last hundred pages since the end of the trade period..

Makeshift Park · 2024-10-17T19:51:56+1100

r00boy96 said:
What's the best pick 2 trade down offer anyone has posted on here? I can't be arsed going through the last hundred pages since the end of the trade period..

Depends whether you're an optimist or a pessimist when it comes to what you expect Richmond will accept.

The case for optimists:

roos_fanatic08 said:
Trade out: Pick 2 & F2

Trade in: Pick 6, Pick 11, Pick 23.

The case for pessimists I can provide:

2 for 6 and 18

Either would be better than pick 2 straight up, imo, but that's a bit controversial.

backtothedraft · 2024-10-17T20:03:25+1100

Makeshift Park said:
Depends whether you're an optimist or a pessimist when it comes to what you expect Richmond will accept.

The case for optimists:

The case for pessimists I can provide:

2 for 6 and 18

Either would be better than pick 2 straight up, imo, but that's a bit controversial.

You’d think it will likely involve pick 6 as a starting point.

If I were Richmond I’d be offering 6 and 18 and just holding there. Eventually I reckon we take it. Pick 10 and 11 are great options for live trading on the night, particularly for Essendon and Gold Coast if bids had been placed prior on their academy players. Ultimately Richmond hold the whip hand given the amount of options they will have with their draft hand.

Kangaroos4eva · 2024-10-17T20:03:40+1100

Nathan Krueger delisted.

Has the physical attributes, but just never put together a full season.

perplexed · 2024-10-17T20:09:45+1100

Makeshift Park said:
Hadn't followed him much until that CTL finals game, but he was a cracker that day.

What's the maximum capital you'd be prepared to pay for him?

Seeing as Richmond are our only suitor for pick 2, I'm tempering my expectations for what we'll get.

But if we could add F2 into the equation, and got Hannaford in return, reckon I'd take that in a heartbeat.

His intensity is something we don't have, other than X and Wardlaw. If we get pick 10 or 11, I think that one of those would be about right, as they'll drift a few spots. I'm only guessing, as I don't watch much junior footy, but I'd be surprised if he went much past those picks.

DuckYeah · 2024-10-17T20:11:58+1100

backtothedraft said:
You’d think it will likely involve pick 6 as a starting point.

If I were Richmond I’d be offering 6 and 18 and just holding there. Eventually I reckon we take it. Pick 10 and 11 are great options for live trading on the night, particularly for Essendon and Gold Coast if bids had been placed prior on their academy players. Ultimately Richmond hold the whip hand given the amount of options they will have with their draft hand.

Whether its good for live trading or not, depends how much richmond want 2 of the top 5 players. I suspect they want the two best available

Samsquanch · 2024-10-17T20:12:25+1100

sheridan said:
surely 1 nibble pie was eaten as he was doing a lap of the dirty angel.

You should have seen the look on Mrs Hojuman's face when she saw the dirty angel.

Newbie Real Talk · 2024-10-17T20:13:31+1100

perplexed said:
His intensity is something we don't have, other than X and Wardlaw. If we get pick 10 or 11, I think that one of those would be about right, as they'll drift a few spots. I'm only guessing, as I don't watch much junior footy, but I'd be surprised if he went much past those picks.

Perhaps Konstanty could be the one who provides that intensity if he gets a clear run at it?

pupstar · 2024-10-17T20:14:16+1100

Junk yard said:
Two will be split, not for the return some think but I'm pretty sure it'll be split. We'd have a wish list in the top 20 so a top ten pick and one before 20 is fine. Don't think they'll be too bothered by the numerical return in this draft, very even top 20 and there'll be sliders.

backtothedraft said:
You’d think it will likely involve pick 6 as a starting point.

If I were Richmond I’d be offering 6 and 18 and just holding there. Eventually I reckon we take it. Pick 10 and 11 are great options for live trading on the night, particularly for Essendon and Gold Coast if bids had been placed prior on their academy players. Ultimately Richmond hold the whip hand given the amount of options they will have with their draft hand.

They only have the whip hand depending on who they want if its 2 of the top 5 mids we hold it.

chubbspeterson · 2024-10-17T20:18:08+1100

Kangaroos4eva said:
Nathan Krueger delisted.

Has the physical attributes, but just never put together a full season.

I'd put him more in the spud category based on what I've seen.

sheridan · 2024-10-17T20:25:41+1100

Samsquanch said:
You should have seen the look on Mrs Hojuman's face when she saw the dirty angel.

I bet she asked for another lap, but said ‘this time go slower’.

chubbspeterson · 2024-10-17T20:26:45+1100

perplexed said:
His intensity is something we don't have, other than X and Wardlaw. If we get pick 10 or 11, I think that one of those would be about right, as they'll drift a few spots. I'm only guessing, as I don't watch much junior footy, but I'd be surprised if he went much past those picks.

I'd have Hannaford more between 15-25 range based on what I've seen. He had a good finish to the year.
Teams that might take him...
Fremantle 14 (if Bo Allen is gone, I think they trade it out into next year perhaps)
GWS 15/16/21 (got Gothard/Jones/Bedford types already, do they need him?)
Port 13 (too early I think for him and I think they might take a tall at this point)
Tigers 18/20/23/24
Swans 19/22
Dogs 17/25
WCE 26

Kangaroos4eva · 2024-10-17T20:34:57+1100

chubbspeterson said:
I'd put him more in the spud category based on what I've seen.

I wouldn’t pick him up either. Looks mentally and physically shot.

Event Horizon · 2024-10-17T20:37:12+1100

koshari said:
so potentially 7 or 8 easy calls including CCJ next year.

Yes. But would need good draft picks and trades/FAs to replace that many blokes in one offseason.

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kool kangas · 2024-10-17T20:37:57+1100

Kangaroos4eva said:
Nathan Krueger delisted.

Has the physical attributes, but just never put together a full season.

Thank You Next Move On GIF by Jimmy Arca

Makeshift Park · 2024-10-17T20:45:47+1100

perplexed said:
His intensity is something we don't have, other than X and Wardlaw. If we get pick 10 or 11, I think that one of those would be about right, as they'll drift a few spots. I'm only guessing, as I don't watch much junior footy, but I'd be surprised if he went much past those picks.

I know he peaked late, but he didn't even get a call up for the national combine, so I reckon that's a bit high.

Incidentally if anyone has his state combine results...

chubbspeterson · 2024-10-17T20:52:42+1100

Makeshift Park said:
I know he peaked late, but he didn't even get a call up for the national combine, so I reckon that's a bit high.

Incidentally if anyone has his state combine results...

This is all I could find so far on Hannaford at the state combine
Agiliity 7.922 secs
Running vertical jump 86cm

shinboner magic · 2024-10-17T20:53:42+1100

Makeshift Park said:
Hadn't followed him much until that CTL finals game, but he was a cracker that day.

What's the maximum capital you'd be prepared to pay for him?

Seeing as Richmond are our only suitor for pick 2, I'm tempering my expectations for what we'll get.

But if we could add F2 into the equation, and got Hannaford in return, reckon I'd take that in a heartbeat.

You playing cards

perplexed · 2024-10-17T20:53:53+1100

Makeshift Park said:
I know he peaked late, but he didn't even get a call up for the national combine, so I reckon that's a bit high.

Incidentally if anyone has his state combine results...

Maybe, though those picks will end up 13-14. Teams are starting to realise how important small forwards are and there are two standouts this year. If a team rates him, I think he could go quite early, similar to Gothard at 12 last year.

hilly · 2024-10-17T20:54:56+1100

6 and 18 is probably the bare minimum for 2. We can also attempt to trade in from 2025 as well.

LB2Snake · 2024-10-17T21:02:22+1100

hilly said:
6 and 18 is probably the bare minimum for 2. We can also attempt to trade in from 2025 as well.

God I hope you are wrong. That’s terrible, 6 and 18

Makeshift Park · 2024-10-17T21:09:28+1100

shinboner magic said:
You playing cards

That's the magic of being an anonymous nobody on the internet.

I can hypothesise about what the club might or might not do until the cows come home, and it doesn't make a lick of difference to the outcome.

Lomas · 2024-10-17T21:09:36+1100

LB2Snake said:
God I hope you are wrong. That’s terrible, 6 and 18

The Tiger's board think 6 and 24......

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