List Mgmt. The 2024 Draft (Nov 20/21)

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Key Dates

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• Oct 17 to Nov 8: Pick swap window
• Nov 1 to Nov 8: Delisted free agency period
• Nov 20-21: Telstra AFL Draft
• Nov 22: Telstra Pre-Season Draft and Rookie Draft

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• 5 Main list
• 1 Rookie list

Current Draft Picks

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• Main Draft - 12,26,73,81,99
• Rookie Draft - 3

 

[Mattman93]

Not really. Unless you didn't watch Travaglia when he got unleashed at times this year for the Pioneers.
Towards the end of the season Travaglia spent periods in the forward line kicking multiple goals in 4 of the last 8 games he played. Against the Dragons he almost single-handedly took the Pioneers to a win with three goals in the last quarter.
Also whether Duggan was a line-breaker pre-draft is debatable but, outside of a moment or two every few games he really has not demonstrated that ability in a long time. Rarely does he take the game on with the ball tucked under his arm. This is where Tobie thrives, particularly in the second halves of games where he can sprint passed players who are clearly fatigued and cannot keep up with him. Typically this is right through the centre of the ground.
Now Duggan may have had a good (or even elite disposal) at U18s level. He definitely doesn't now.
I think Duggan's football IQ is alright. He is just not quick enough or has good enough foot skills to make use of it.
Also Travaglia is 188cm and aerially elite. Duggan has grown since he was drafted but he has never demonstrated that he has any meaningful aerial prowess. At best he would halve a one-on-one.
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[eaglespremiers]

Which one is your phone background?

A photo of my daughter, which I won't post here.
I did have Tom Barrass' mark against Hawthorn for a number of years:

 

[aussierulesrules]

I like this, everything we got for barass and 26 for 8, 32, 47

Out - Hawks f1 + Hawks f2 + Hawks f3 + 26
In - 8, 32, 47

Draft hand - 8,12,32,47,73

8 - Draper, Langford
12 - Travaglia/Lindsay/Berry/Allan
32 - Boxshall/Mraz
47 - Dennis
73 - Champion

All we've lost is an f4 via the barass trade. Have no issue without the need for 2 firsts next year (after past experiences during the trade period)

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Trading out of this years draft and into next years isn’t a good option for us, as we’ve made 10 list changes this offseason and only brought in Macrae so far, so we’re going to be loading up big-time on this draft. As it stands, I read we only have 30 on our senior list right now.

We may be using our 4 live picks, then potentially matching bids for Cole, Hoffman and Peckett. So we need picks this year, not next.

 

[Dale Doback]

I'm not worried about Melbourne at pick 9, someone will slide. But Richmond at 10 and 11 sniping us for Bo after the Baker trade....anger

 

[stallon]

So 6 list spots assuming L.Edwards goes. Keep that Edwards spot for DFA/SSP.
Up to 5 players to add via draft then.

Swap our f2+hawks f2 for 28+31 from the Bombers, then swap 26 for the bombers f2+f3 after.
Offer Richmond hawks f1+ess f2+ess f3 for pick 11(on draft night if 2 of the 3 main guys we want are there), they owe us a slight favour after the Baker thing.
Take picks 11, 12, 28, 31 and 73 into the draft

Travaglia + Allan/Lindsay + Moraes + Barrat + Champion.

Future KPD sorted, and outside run sorted

Still have our f1, f3 and hawks f3 for next year.
Forget Warner, take Rodriguez with our f1, then just make sure we have points to match bids.

 

[We_The_West]

My issue with taking Josh Smillie at our first pick is he gives me Jai Culley/Brander vibes being that tall big bodied mid who dominates against young boys but will get found out in the AFL and not really have a position...

From his highlights and combine results he looks quite slow and not exactly a nimble/agile 194cm type.

Additionally, if the Melbourne clubs let him slide down that far then there must be some red flags...

 

[Goomba1973]

My issue with taking Josh Smillie at our first pick is he gives me Jai Culley/Brander vibes being that tall big bodied mid who dominates against young boys but will get found out in the AFL and not really have a position...

From his highlights and combine results he looks quite slow and not exactly a nimble/agile 194cm type.

Additionally, if the Melbourne clubs let him slide down that far then there must be some red flags...

Paddy Cripps gave the recruiters the same , too slow vibes and he slipped to 13. Smille is a pure mid with a point of difference being his size. Culley wasn't even picked in the national draft let alone in the discussion for a top 10 pick, his red flags were warranted, Brander was a forward but we tried to turn him into a mid/wing. If Smillie is there at our first pick then we should take him.

 

[Goomba1973]

So 6 list spots assuming L.Edwards goes. Keep that Edwards spot for DFA/SSP.
Up to 5 players to add via draft then.

Swap our f2+hawks f2 for 28+31 from the Bombers, then swap 26 for the bombers f2+f3 after.
Offer Richmond hawks f1+ess f2+ess f3 for pick 11(on draft night if 2 of the 3 main guys we want are there), they owe us a slight favour after the Baker thing.
Take picks 11, 12, 28, 31 and 73 into the draft

Travaglia + Allan/Lindsay + Moraes + Barrat + Champion.

Future KPD sorted, and outside run sorted

Still have our f1, f3 and hawks f3 for next year.
Forget Warner, take Rodriguez with our f1, then just make sure we have points to match bids.

Replace Barrat for Jaxon Artemis

 

[We_The_West]

Paddy Cripps gave the recruiters the same , too slow vibes and he slipped to 13. Smille is a pure mid with a point of difference being his size. Culley wasn't even picked in the national draft let alone in the discussion for a top 10 pick, his red flags were warranted, Brander was a forward but we tried to turn him into a mid/wing. If Smillie is there at our first pick then we should take him.

Paddy Cripps was more a bolter than a slider in the 2013 draft from memory (he also grew almost 20cm in his draft year)... Sheed went before him and WC traded back for this reason. Matty Crouch was the highest rated inside mid of that year

Smillie zero point of difference playing mid at AFL level, his weaknesses are his burst speed and his contested marking... what good is a slow 194cm mid who can't take a contested mark (and he is not considered a "bull" like Cripps and other inside mids are described)... then he rests forward to clog up our already tall-heavy forward line?

This draft has enough smaller, fast and skillful types we need or a KPD

 

[Goomba1973]

Paddy Cripps was more a bolter than a slider in the 2013 draft from memory (he also grew almost 20cm in his draft year)... Sheed went before him and WC traded back for this reason. Matty Crouch was the highest rated inside mid of that year

Smillie zero point of difference playing mid at AFL level, his weaknesses are his burst speed and his contested marking... what good is a slow 194cm mid who can't take a contested mark (and he is not considered a "bull" like Cripps and other inside mids are described)... then he rests forward to clog up our already tall-heavy forward line?

This draft has enough smaller, fast and skillful types we need or a KPD

I could not disagree with you more (apart from his dismal marking ability) . Smillie is a gun mid, very agile for a guy his size, breaks tackles, uses the ball very well and gets hands to it first with his long reach, has very good endurance and makes good decisions with ball in hand. He was a down from his best in the carnival, but still averaged just under 19 touches, 10 contested and 6 score involvements I have watched a lot of Smillie this year and though I don't put him on the same level as O'Sullivan or Smith at this stage, his upside potential IMO exceeds anyone else in this years draft
(except for O'Sullivan)