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I'm astounded at the stubbornness presented by Dan. These ideas are terrible and the double chance is a great part of finals football. Perfect the way it is, and it will work for 18 teams, and even 20 teams.

Terrible sonnet. Unless they're supposed to be three haikus, in which case you need to brush up on your structures. Shoddy work.

Honestly, the lack of premierships (at least lately) is not for lack of trying. You'd be foolish to think otherwise.

It seems so many on this forum just use that inherently flawed concept in response to everything negative said about their club. Example: Collingwood supporter: "I don't think St Kilda will be able to win a flag with this list. Their time is up." Saints supporter: "OH WHAT SO WHEN'S THE...

Very obvious ones, but '66 and Gardiner's mark in round 14.

Strikingly similar to how this yank fell in love with the game, albeit nearly 30 years later. Good read. Thanks.

Flogs this, spuds that, Riewoldtember, etc. You're only setting yourself up to be embarrassed and ridiculed. We're all upset, but don't lash out at other clubs because we lost.

I understand what you're saying, but don't you feel that any time a club in any sport loses in the championship game there's a feeling of unfinished business and an urgency to return to the final and do it right this time? I don't know; that's the feeling I have right now.

Good predictions. I'll take either Carlton or Essendon to fill out the top 8.

Well it's got to be St Kilda, hasn't it? Certainly feels like it.