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We got 2 future second rounders back

and I reckon nobody would really be saying anything if we took Francis and Taheny in reverse...yet it's the same net result

Why don't wait until everything is said and done before teeing off?

Buzza/Henderson will go.

"Jenkins, 30, is prepared to take a pay cut on the final two years of his existing deal at the Crows which is valued at around $500,000-$600,000 per season. With the Crows also willing to pay part of his wage, the Cats could be required to fork out as little as $200,000 a year for a player who...

I don't mind it - he's basically said he'll rip up his contract and play for peanuts and will cost us minimally in picks for a potential 40 goal+ player, which would have been our second best goalkicker for about the last decade, and at worst key forward depth we're we currently have few options...

Trade Radio reporting Geelong are going after Jenkins today. Take 40% of the contract.

So, according to that - anyone with an opposing perspective to yours is a blind follower? Seems legit.

Legit? You wouldn't take Brad Hill + Jack Steven + a Future 1st for Tim Kelly? Huge win overall IMO.

That's fair enough - but he's also perfectly entitled to having a clear preference to which club he goes to. We don't know what would have played out with Freo if WCE just didn't even come close - I'd suggest Freo would have been in play at the last minute as opposed to going to the draft or...

To shed a little more light for the nuffies completely devoid of empathy giving Kelly or Caitlin crap, this is what they are dealing with. As someone who moved to Adelaide with two young healthy kids because I saw how my wife struggled being away from her family during this, I totally get what...

Which is exactly why St Kilda will take 37 IMO - do they want to walk away from this with nothing? When they need the pick and cap space for other trades and then also be known as the club that forced a player with mental health issues to retire because they were being stubborn and unreasonable...

We're not paying anywhere near what Pies paid for Beams.

Fair enough. It's mathematically a bad bet though IMO, even moreso given what we need right now to possibly plug what we've lost in Kelly given we want to shot at the flag next year. We now have a raft of decent early picks over the next two drafts plus some decent young talent on our list...

+ 2nd in the B&F in his first two seasons.

buuuut what about the other ~70-80% that didn't work out? I'm not saying it's not possible to find winners, i'm saying the likelihood based on historical evidence is pretty low and almost zero if we're looking at somehting that can provide the potential imediate impact of Steven while we're in...

Averages more goals per game than anyone on our list bar Hawkins.

I think it's a pretty easy assessment - what's the likelihood of finding a pick 33 in the draft with a potential Steven impact (overall and immediate) vs. the chance that Steven has a strong impact. To me, Steven is the much better option. The likelihood of pick 33 being...anything, let alone...

If that was the case, I'd like to see Rohan trialled off half-back or the wing. If he's getting 10 touches a game, breaking the lines off the half back line is something that could seriously improve us, him vs. Bews. We know he is a great at applying tackling pressure, I reckon he could really...

Why don't you ask Wells, seeing you understand it better than he...and jump in an ice bath afterwards.

It's pretty simple. This years draft is supposedly shallow and we probably felt there's better value in having an extra pick next year for a F/S that potentially looks better than pick X this year.

22, 24, 35, 58

Ablett, Dangerfield, Selwood and Duncan at the starting bounce in Rd 1 - think about that.

EFA

Maybe they aren't particularly worried about it if it's for a number of F'S selections but it satisfied GC.

Not sure, never been in there.

Exactly - if any playing style is ideal for Motlop, it's run'n'gun. Wouldn't be surprised to see him go close to AA over there.

errr the club told his management he was on the trade table. Being contracted doesn't seem to hold that much weight from I've seen the last few years.

Agree with all of that except Murdoch. He's been good enough overall to hold his spot. Has been much improved this year.

I like aggressive Murdoch. Stewart outstanding. Lang getting there.