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Newman Weitering Cincotta Saad Kemp McGovern Acres Cripps Docherty Martin McKay Fogarty Owies Curnow Motlop FOL: DeKonig, Cerra, Walsh INT: Hewett, Dow, Cottrell, Pittonet SUB: Fisher IN: Cripps, Docherty, Pittonet, Motlop OUT: Fisher (sub), Durdin, Holland, Marchbank...

I agree with this. Pitto does try to add some physicality, but he's no where near as damaging as TDK, Harry or JSOS.

Yes, automatic selection. I still think we'd go TDK, JSOS and Harry when all fit. Pitto to miss.

we should just put some version of this headline on repeat; "Brave" Blues, fight hard, But Cant Get it Done. Even though we aren't getting blown out, the ease at which the opposition scores and the absolute grind it takes for everyone of our goals is frightening. We may try hard... but, wow, we...

classic Carlton.... 'Brave' (read sarcasm here) effort to get back into the game, but after 3.5 BS quarters of football couldn't get the job done. No doubt Voss and the leaders will be talking about all the improvement we've made and how we must've 'gotten ahead of ourselves' after getting so...

(forgive my rant... most of this is for the sake of my own post loss therapy). I think its time for myself (and perhaps others) to realize and fully come to grips with the blatantly obvious.... we are a mediocre team.... mediocre at best. we're better than we were, sure. But we're nowhere near...

Only change I can see is Motlop for Honey. Perhaps Ed moves to Emergency, and Kennedy back in. I think the WCE game proved that Cincotta and Kemp are both a good way ahead of Cowan at this stage of their respective careers, and should be kept in. Cowan's got promise, and a season in the 2's...

I had a bad feeling this was going to happen. That sinking reality that our team really isn't up to it, is just continuing to be confirmed. We have some good players and we're better then we were 4 or 5 years ago... sure.... but we're a long way off the teams that really contend. I don't know...

I think this is going to be our biggest test so far.... an in-form Adelaide, at Adelaide Oval is a tough ask. Hopefully we're up to it, especially after last years game completely derailed our season, but we have such a terrible record at AO I'm struggling to have much confidence right now. I'm...

Out: Durdin (inj), Martin (injured or dropped, take your pick) In: Kemp, Honey

I'm sure its already been stated, but really enjoying what I'm seeing from Boyd. Every game he looks better and better... if we had no injuries I dont think he's in our best 22 at the moment, but he's showing a lot and I think will keep improving. Right now I'm picking him over Stocker...

Out: Weitering, Motlop, Carroll In: Kemp, Martin, Kennedy Kennedy and Cripps switch between midfield and forward. Martin straight to a HFF Kemp key back.

Glad Motlop's had a few weeks in the 1's and I'm sure he'll make it in the long run, but he needs to go back to the 2's... Martin would've provided significantly more impact then him today.

Out; Pitto (injured) Harry (injured), Setters, Cottrell, Newnes, Durdin, Owies In; Kemp, Dow, Kennedy, Silvagni, Caroll, Motlop, Williamson Time to try Carroll and Williamson on a wing... it can't be any worse then what we've seen so far. Durdin and Owies need a spell... give Motlop a shot at...

i'll give it a stab... Plowman McDonald McGovern Saad Weitering Williams O'Brien Cripps Docherty (if not ready, replace with Williamson) Martin C.Curnow Fisher Silvagni McKay Durdin R: Pittonet, Hewitt, Cerra IC: Newman, Kennedy, Owies, TDK Sub: E.Curnow or Kemp

good thread, and I agree McGovern is quite a conundrum. I think based on exposed and consistent form, I'm taking JSOS ahead of him. BUT. I do think ultimately it may be proven that McGovern has greater upside, greater X Factor and some skills and tools that JSOS will probably never have. That...

alright I want to have another crack at this... because who wants to work when there's a best 22 to be speculated on. Stocker Jones Plowman Saad Weitering Williams Docherty Cripps O'Brien Martin C.Curnow Fisher Honey McKay...

Welcome coach! Hoping and believing this will be a successful era with you at the helm.

As a long suffering Carlton supporter, just wanted to pop on here and say congrats on the GF appearance. You guys give hope that it is possible to resurrect a side from the doldrums and achieve something significant. All the best for the big dance.

thank you.

today.... everyone's a Bulldogs fan. get it done.

Ok, just for sh$ts & giggles. I made my best 22 assuming we have acquired Cerra, that we've lost SPS, and that Cunningham and Marchbank are the only two still in recovery. (wouldn't that be a dream!) Fisher could be replaced with Owies or Durdin, but for me Fisher offers a lot more up the...

this could get real ugly.

After watching Durdin and Honey tonight (not forgetting Owies) we simply cannot give another contract to Betts.... every game he gets is another wasted game of development into some kids with real potential and a whole lot of years ahead of them. Retain Betts in an off field role of some...

You're probably right... BUT (I realize this is a hypothetical not based in precedent or reality)... if we were to have a convincing win over Suns, a miraculous win over the Power, and then a tough grind out win over GWS... it's going to be a very different atmosphere at HQ. Makes me wonder if...

This is the kind of game we typically lose... so will be a great test to see if we're starting to really turn a corner. If we lose, Teague gone. If we win, he has a glimmer of hope remaining.

Lots to like, a few take aways... - No question LOB has more AFL attributes then Cottrell. Happy for him and I hope he continues to build on tonights game. - I like Fisher with more time in the middle... with Cripps and Kennedy in there, Fisher gives us a point of difference. I like him ball...

Out :: Cottrell, Newnes, Williams (injured), Betts (possibly injured) In :: McKay, O'Brien, Murphy, Honey Lets just get Murphy to his 300 now... honoring such a long standing servant of the club will only be a good thing in the long run. We know what Newnes and Cottrell can bring... so lets at...

I truly do admire Teague as a person, as a player... and even think he has a pretty good football brain. He relates well with the players and offers a lot. The longer he's in this seat though, it becomes clear he is an excellent Assistant Coach, and not suited to the top job. A Senior Coach...

So much to like about tonight; Dow takes a huge step, Kennedy maybe saving his career with these last two weeks... and Walsh just keeps on keeping on. I have some concerns about Harry that I felt were on display tonight... and this is not to diminish a great season he's had so far. 1 -...