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  1. M

    Training Pre season training

    No doubt there are a few reasons for the Couch stuff. 1. They delisted him from the main list to open up another Draft Pick in the National Draft Patrick Said says thankyou can only have as many picks as open main list spots Secondly and more speculative but they then re-rookied him because...
  2. M

    2024 Draft Thread.

    It was pretty evident early in the year that this was the plan we were taking risks and attacking through the middle early all came a bit unstuck in the Essendon game where Bonner in particular had some huge number of turnovers. Teams then sweated on us trying this and was part of the reason our...
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    2024 Draft Thread.

    Not sure how to find individual game stats for CTL games best I can offer is the Rookie-me write up on his midfield traits Barring his goalkicking exploits, perhaps the most impressive part of Berry's season was his ability to pinch-hit in midfield. He did so with more frequency as the year...
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    2024 Draft Thread.

    Suspect we saw midfield potential in Berry as well as the forward skills, he like Travaglia played mid in the back half of the year as did Dattoli and Hannaford. More interesting is we saw more in Berry than Murphy Reid he really wasn’t on our wish list. I could see midfield potential in Berry...
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    2024 Draft Thread.

    Just a genuine query every non Saints person media or otherwise seems to presume SOS is making the calls at St Kilda I am assuming that is not the case and it is Dalrymple on draft night. Gubby is focused on trades and AFL listed players Mission is their ultimate boss so what exactly is SOS...
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    2024 Draft Thread.

    By my calculations Maximum we can have on the Primary List is 38 then 4 CAT A Rookies and 2 CAT B Rookies We currently have: 34 Primary List 2 CAT A Rookies (Plus a promise to re-rookie Brad Crouch) 2 CAT B Rookies So my guess is 4 added to the list tonight including Cole and Hoffman so 2...
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    2024 Draft Thread.

    I think all of Travaglia Lindsay and Allan all have question marks on whether they become mids or flankers long term. Of the 3 I think Allan has the best prospect of becoming a mid but that might end up being more of the defensive mid using his athleticism to stop rather than create. He would...
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    2024 Draft Thread.

    Reading between the lines 1. We don't rate Murphy Reid 2. We may not rate Josh Smillie (based on the thought he could slide through to Richmonds next pick) 3. We really do rate Traviglia possibly higher than some of the 6 top end mids (I get that he is going to be a really good player) 4. We...
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    2024 Draft Thread.

    Just got to hope North are playing games trying to get a better deal for 2 after totally undermining their draft strategy by letting everyone know they wanted Tarau in the first place on top of paying pick 25 for Caleb Daniel. They have painted themselves into a corner reach for Tarau because...
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    2024 Draft Thread.

    I agree with that but I suspect given the expectation he slides past us that our recruitment team think otherwise which is a shame because I really wanted him but reading the tea leaves he will slide past our picks
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    2024 Draft Thread.

    Couple of points from Mission and Twomey not discussed here yet: Mission- We highly weight our selections on whether they fit our game style: Sounds like code for guys who can run all day and might mean we overlook someone like Reid or Smillie in favour of an Allan or Lindsay but probably...
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    2024 Draft Thread.

    She is a host basically just there to move the conversation along not to challenge the “experts” opinions she just reflects whatever they have to say. Purple would be ropable if she started giving him a hard time on his half baked opinions
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    2024 Draft Thread.

    We will see on the night I just rate Reid Allan and Travaglia much higher than the pack behind them. Our recruiters may have a very different view on the talent than I do. I will happily defer to their expertise and back in whoever we pick. Just think ultimately they will likely hang on to 7 &...
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    2024 Draft Thread.

    That’s about the right list and of those the most likely to be remaining are Hotton & Hynes who I think are a level below so then we are crossing our fingers Reid falls through or we are ok to risk it with Trainor. Allan Travaglia Lindsay Armstrong and Shanahan will all be gone by 15 I would...
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    2024 Draft Thread.

    But if we split 8 for 15 and 16 we will be picking at 18 - 19 or later and all those will most likely be gone already Different if it was 8 for 10 and 11 but that would involve our F1 as well and I wouldn’t do it and neither will Richmond
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    2024 Draft Thread.

    I guess I just completely disagree with the first sentence I think Travaglia Allan Reid are significantly better and Lindsay and Armstrong probably also better that those behind them if they weren’t GWS wouldn’t consider the trade
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    2024 Draft Thread.

    Cole is not getting bid on before 32 and we shouldn’t be splitting 8 to avoid that possibility anyway that is crazy what we do with 8 should have nothing to do with what might happen at 32. If we lose pick 32 no big loss if we lose the 8th best player in the draft that is a disaster
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    2024 Draft Thread.

    All the talk of a top 6 then a big even bunch to about 25 is wrong I think there are a handful of players Tarau, Reid, Allan, Travaglia who I think should be in the conversation and others would probably add Lindsay and Armstrong to that top end bunch. Then there is Trainor who belongs there if...
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    2024 Draft Thread.

    Reid is a midfielder you can argue whether he makes it AFL but he won't be a half forward at AFL level IMO His biggest weapon is his handballing in tight quick hands great vision in confined space (Greg Williams Also doubted as a young footballer) That weapon is only useful if he is in the...
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    2024 Draft Thread.

    I think the chances of Reid or Lindsay or Allan getting to 15 are pretty Slim and if we make that choice to split 8 it is because we don't particularly rate any of them as the answer to our midfield woes. Personally I do rate Reid and Allan. If it is Trainor Hynes Whitlock we like then 15 - 16...
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    2024 Draft Thread.

    Surely we are not going to follow through on this there is no one worthy of a spot and the exact opposite of what was intended is happening with what sounds like a mass walkout
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    2024 Draft Thread.

    I'm not keen on the GWS trade for 8 I think that puts our picks just outside the players I like I am all for a trade with Richmond that bumps them in front of Melbourne if they are both keen on the same player like the GWS trade last year as long as we still get the player we want eg. Say Allan...
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    2024 Draft Thread.

    Not sure that is true he is justifiably in that 8 - 15 range purely on his performances at HB The midfield scope might be an extra enticement but he is arguably best available even without it. We are all focused on Mids so we have dismissed him but GWS for example would be seeing a Whitfield...
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    2024 Draft Thread.

    Absolutely so much better now but really down to one guy on YouTube and his posting in the draft thread cudos to noobermensch but incredible that the AFL doesn’t release this footage themselves. I assume they are trying to protect the kids from too much scrutiny given they are 17-18 but it seems...
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    2024 Draft Thread.

    I think who the fanbase want is irrelevant or at least I hope it is. Most supporters 90% have at most read the Herald Sun or Age write ups at most. Even on Bigfooty the draft is for a special few super nerds. We will all find reasons to love who ever it is we select like we did with NAS even...
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    2024 Draft Thread.

    We won't be replacing like for like but we need another tall defender and at some point in the season he might be the best option asking a lot and I doubt he gets first crack but may fall that way over the course of the season. He probably has more chance of holding an AFL level key forward than...
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    2024 Draft Thread.

    Most of these kids won't start AFL in the middle that always takes time they will either play VFL or outside the mids in AFL if they have the vestility FOS will start on a Wing HF or HB Lalor will start forward Reid will start on HFF Smillie probably HB Ashcroft HFF Langford Wing HF Jagga...
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    2024 Draft Thread.

    No that comes in next year normal 20% and 197 discounts apply this year akaifu’s outline below is on the money at most we burn pick 47 if the bid is early for Cole but more likely the bids don’t come we see it every year NGA’s and F/S slip down the order and frankly our guys are probably only...
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    2024 Draft Thread.

    If everyone is available and I have pick 1 & 2 not 7 & 8 and I am building a midfield which will be Pou + these two selections Lalor and Jagga are probably the right picks that seems to provide the right balance Pou is the tall athlete Lalor the Power Jagga the ball winner It might change if I...
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    2024 Draft Thread.

    My very amateur summary of the mids we could possibly maybe select and ignoring this crazy talk of key position players Name Details Testing Pick me Devils Advocate Type My Preference FOS Height: 182cm D.O.B: 30-05-2006 Pre-Season 20m: 3.046 Vertical: 90cm Agility: 8.117 Yo-yo...
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