Player Watch #1: Nick Vlastuin

[Area51]

Vlastuin is a better bloke.

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

I most certainly did not ignore the Brownlow vote post, I gave a whole post to explaining why I think the player ratings are a better guide.

In any event Stewart averages 4 Brownlow votes per season.

That's total bull-sheet...T.S. averages a magnificent 4 Brownlow votes per Season!!!

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

Vlastuin is a better bloke.

And has flat filed off elbow points!!!

 

[Wooden Robot]

I just wanna know what role Vlastuin will play in helping us win games next year and getting us back to finals.
People can choose to live in the past as much as they want and sit and glorify past deeds, fact is we missed finals against this year and haven't gone past eighth in three years.
And I want to know how Vlastuin will improve his discipline.
Gives away too many silly frees and has become more undisciplined by the year.
Captain pffttt!!

 

[Meteoric Rise]

I just wanna know what role Vlastuin will play in helping us win games next year and getting us back to finals.
People can choose to live in the past as much as they want and sit and glorify past deeds, fact is we missed finals against this year and haven't gone past eighth in three years.
And I want to know how Vlastuin will improve his discipline.
Gives away too many silly frees and has become more undisciplined by the year.
Captain pffttt!!

Vlastuin gave away 14 free kicks in 2023 at the rate of 0.67 free kicks against per game. This is his lowest free kicks against return since his second season 2014. It is also well down on his previous career average of around 1 free kick against per match.

 

[Wooden Robot]

Vlastuin gave away 14 free kicks in 2023 at the rate of 0.67 free kicks against per game. This is his lowest free kicks against return since his second season 2014. It is also well down on his previous career average of around 1 free kick against per match.

I know it does t compute on your stats program, but not every undisciplined act is a free kick!
You can be undisciplined in other ways!

 

[Vassp]

Obvious point...take the bias out of choosing so called elite backman!
Second obvious point...take the bias out of the Geelong Mafia's Media push of so called elite backmen!!

I cant stand Geelong, they're our biggest nemesis

 

[Dr Tigris]

Nick was a great player - got ironed out and lost some of his mojo. Seemed to get a bit back last season.

hopefully he can be part of another blast next year with a new coach and new game plan. Still got plenty to offer.

Stewart v Tigger. Stewart seems a more impactful player. But when on song Vlas is both a brilliant interceptor and a hard nut defender and a great quarterback. Stewart is simial rbut less of the hard nut. I'd like either in my team.

i'd still like Stewart nailed off the ball and the player to get off because they were 'good bloke'.

 

[lizard man]

I think a new role for vlaustin on the wing is a possibility, he is so good at reading the play …. He’s almost like a mind reader! As a wingman I think he will intercept all the risky kicks the oppositin half backs do when they want to kick the ball through the corridor to open up the play ….. he will turn defence into attack and generate lots scores through turnovers

 

[richard parker]

I think a new role for vlaustin on the wing is a possibility, he is so good at reading the play …. He’s almost like a mind reader! As a wingman I think he will intercept all the risky kicks the oppositin half backs do when they want to kick the ball through the corridor to open up the play ….. he will turn defence into attack and generate lots scores through turnovers

Sauce

 

[tiger_tough]

I think a new role for vlaustin on the wing is a possibility, he is so good at reading the play …. He’s almost like a mind reader! As a wingman I think he will intercept all the risky kicks the oppositin half backs do when they want to kick the ball through the corridor to open up the play ….. he will turn defence into attack and generate lots scores through turnovers

Not a ****ing chance.

 

[lizard man]

Sauce

No source just my opinion

 

[lizard man]

Not a ******* chance.

Why not? Why are you so against it?

 

[Grrr]

Why not? Why are you so against it?

He isn't quick enough for one, and he is so good in his natural position. Not a ridiculous notion because of his reading of the play as you say, but I think there is a queue of players who could do it also, from the old brigade, Short or Rioli, surely Pickett deserves to have a crack after being wasted up forward. Ross was good there last season, Mansell could play there, Sonsie, Banks, Trezise, Brown, Clarke, Smith, even Gibcus could have a run there for his marking ability.

 

[lizard man]

He isn't quick enough for one, and he is so good in his natural position. Not a ridiculous notion because of his reading of the play as you say, but I think there is a queue of players who could do it also, from the old brigade, Short or Rioli, surely Pickett deserves to have a crack after being wasted up forward. Ross was good there last season, Mansell could play there, Sonsie, Banks, Trezise, Brown, Clarke, Smith, even Gibcus could have a run there for his marking ability.

I see your point however grigg wasn’t quick either and he was a good wingman ….. I feel like we’ve recently taken the wing position for granted and would like to see one of our better players like vlaustin be given the chance instead of just a role player like mcintosh ….. you make some good points about other players who could do it

 

[Ctl]

Vlastuin would be wasted in wing spot, he can impact the game much more as an intercepting defender and that is a way more important role in modern footy. Wingman these days are team first disciplined role players, hold the width, work back to help the defense, bring the ball to ground, etc

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Vlastuin would be wasted in wing spot, he can impact the game much more as an intercepting defender and that is a way more important role in modern footy. Wingman these days are team first disciplined role players, hold the width, work back to help the defense, bring the ball to ground, etc

We definitely want to keep Vlastuin in line with the ball as much as possible.

 

[tiger_tough]

Why not? Why are you so against it?

Because I doubt he has the tank. Because he is one of the best intercepting defenders in the league. Because we have plenty of young wing options looking for a game. Because he's been tried further up the ground unsuccessfully before.

 

[lizard man]

We definitely want to keep Vlastuin in line with the ball as much as possible.

Who would you play on the wings instead? I feel like we at least need to make some change in the wing role even if it’s not vlaustin

 

[Muddiemoose]

For mine if we swapped vlossy anywhere (would prefer he stays at half back) it would be as a forward

Has shown that he can impact in the forward line when he’s been swung around on occasion and can take a decent mark and hold his own on the ground

However I’m not overly a fan of medium forwards in general so for mine we keep him as one of the mainstays in our backline

 

[DickieKnee]

Who would you play on the wings instead? I feel like we at least need to make some change in the wing role even if it’s not vlaustin

It really depends on Uzis game plan. Dimma loved defensive gut running wingers hence Kmac and Pickett.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Who would you play on the wings instead? I feel like we at least need to make some change in the wing role even if it’s not vlaustin

I think things that can help wingmen are running capacity, speed, a bit of height, being great kick.

It does depend on the game plan. We have played our wingers a bit like traditional half back flankers at times, and our half backs more like wingers to carry the ball from defence to attack. So really players like Houli, Short and Dan Rioli have been performing a lot of the traditional wing function for us.

To answer the question it is not really a matter of who nominally plays wing or half back or whatever, but rather which players stand in line with the ball to intercept or spoil, which players run the ball out of defence and which players deliver the ball into F50. Short and Rioli are high class outside runners and ball users, so you would want to keep them doing that function as a priority. Vlastuin is a high class interceptor, and great distributor, so again you want him playing that type of role.

Banks would surely be earmarked for a wing role in future, classy ball user, good runner. I like Pickett on a wing, has a great all round game for it. McIntosh was a bit down last year but has been very dependable of the course of time. I don't have any rabbit out of hat suggestions for the wing. Jud Clarke is another who may be of interest there depending on our game plan.

 

[Muddiemoose]

I think things that can help wingmen are running capacity, speed, a bit of height, being great kick.

It does depend on the game plan. We have played our wingers a bit like traditional half back flankers at times, and our half backs more like wingers to carry the ball from defence to attack. So really players like Houli, Short and Dan Rioli have been performing a lot of the traditional wing function for us.

To answer the question it is not really a matter of who nominally plays wing or half back or whatever, but rather which players stand in line with the ball to intercept or spoil, which players run the ball out of defence and which players deliver the ball into F50. Short and Rioli are high class outside runners and ball users, so you would want to keep them doing that function as a priority. Vlastuin is a high class interceptor, and great distributor, so again you want him playing that type of role.

Banks would surely be earmarked for a wing role in future, classy ball user, good runner. I like Pickett on a wing, has a great all round game for it. McIntosh was a bit down last year but has been very dependable of the course of time. I don't have any rabbit out of hat suggestions for the wing. Jud Clarke is another who may be of interest there depending on our game plan.

Mansell also showed a little when on the wing at times last year
Dunno if he will be a mainstay but he’s the type of guy who I like in the 22 due to his team first attitude and campaigner

 

[lizard man]

I think things that can help wingmen are running capacity, speed, a bit of height, being great kick.

It does depend on the game plan. We have played our wingers a bit like traditional half back flankers at times, and our half backs more like wingers to carry the ball from defence to attack. So really players like Houli, Short and Dan Rioli have been performing a lot of the traditional wing function for us.

To answer the question it is not really a matter of who nominally plays wing or half back or whatever, but rather which players stand in line with the ball to intercept or spoil, which players run the ball out of defence and which players deliver the ball into F50. Short and Rioli are high class outside runners and ball users, so you would want to keep them doing that function as a priority. Vlastuin is a high class interceptor, and great distributor, so again you want him playing that type of role.

Banks would surely be earmarked for a wing role in future, classy ball user, good runner. I like Pickett on a wing, has a great all round game for it. McIntosh was a bit down last year but has been very dependable of the course of time. I don't have any rabbit out of hat suggestions for the wing. Jud Clarke is another who may be of interest there depending on our game plan.

You make some good points …. I’m someone who likes to think outside the box a bit so maybe I’m overarching

 

[Rayzorwire]

I don't have any rabbit out of hat suggestions for the wing. Jud Clarke is another who may be of interest there depending on our game plan.

Trezise seems a likely candidate down the track?