1st round draft pick 2010

[daddy_4_eyes]

Too big a risk for us at 4 though. Does anyone wanna try and trade pick 4 for 9 and 11 as much as me?

The top three
Atley, Gaff, Gorringe, Polec, Smith, Heppell, Lynch, Darling

All the above players could be taken at 4. Why not try and turn pick four into two picks inside the 11 we would get two of the above players instead of 1. If we threw in something good with pick 4 surely GC would have to consider it having the first 5 picks would give them a hell of a lot of certainty.

According to who? BF has a habit of totally getting the draft order wrong which suggests people's talent spotting abilities on here are non-existant.
Players talked up around here in the past ended up slipping to the rookie draft or not being drafted at all.

You say 4-11 are all equal, but as a recruiter I'd rather have pick #4 and pick the best of that lot than have #9 & #11 and just pick what's left (players logically considered the worst of that lot by professional talent scouts).

 

[Spartan]

Out of Swallow, Bennell and Day the logical one to drop out of the top #3 you would think is Bennell. WCE would be all over Bennell at #4.. Heppell is starting to look like a logical #4 if the top 3 stay as is.. but I still get this sinking feeling we have locked in Darling at #4.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Gorringe is officially ruckman height at 200cm. He has some beautiful tapwork to advantage.

Awsome talls in this draft with Lynch at 199cm, Mitchell at 198, Gorringe at 200cm, Day at 196cm+, McCarthy at 195cm+, Watson 194cm+ as well as Lycett, Cook and many more.

 

[run2dmax]

Just a bit of pro Heppell propoganda:

Running Vertical Jump - Top 10
Position

Name​

Result (cms)
​

1 Kieran Harper 88 2 Brad Harvey 88 3 Dyson Heppell 86 4 Ben Jacobs 84 5 Joel Wilkinson 84 6 Cameron Guthrie 83 7 Jake Batchelor 82 8 Rohan Bewick 82 9 Ryan Brabazon 82 10 Cameron Johnston 82

Standing Vertical Jump - Top 10
Position

Name​

Result (cms)
​

1 Brad Harvey 75 2 Nathan Batley 71 3 Anton Hamp 71 4 Joel Wilkinson 66 5 Kieran Harper 65 6 Cameron Guthrie 65 7 Shaun Atley 64 8 Dyson Heppell 64 9 Seb Tape 63 10 Billie Smedts 63

20 Metre Sprint - Top 10

Position​

Name​

Result (seconds)
​

1 Joel Wilkinson 2.75 (record) 2 Brad Harvey 2.78 3 Nathan Batley 2.81 4 Daniel Farmer 2.83 5 Ryan Brabazon 2.84 6 Shane Kersten 2.88 7 Gerald Ugle 2.88 8 Andrew Gaff 2.88 9 Angus Litherland 2.89 10 Billie Smedts 2.91 ? Dyson Heppell 2.998

Dyson Heppell, the co-Morrish Medallist in the TAC Cup this year, finished outside the top 10 in the 20-metre sprint, but his effort in breaking three seconds is significant. Heppell had been considered slightly slow, albeit with a massive engine, before twice running 2.998 seconds in the sprint. Now he’s considered fast. “I’m more of a decision-maker than a breakaway player,” he said. “But my goal was to break three seconds.”

 

[Galileo9]

on a separate note, if clubs choose to take their end of first round picks this year given that its a decent draft, is this prior or after our priority pick? if its before, and alot of clubs take their picks, we will be f*cked. more so than at moment.

my thinkning is that if i was an AFL coach i'd probably take the picks now. you just dont know where you will be in 3-4 years time as a coach to worry about whats best for the club. even that "best" is arguable if you can fill a massive need now!

 

[WCE_phil]

on a separate note, if clubs choose to take their end of first round picks this year given that its a decent draft, is this prior or after our priority pick? if its before, and alot of clubs take their picks, we will be f*cked. more so than at moment.

my thinkning is that if i was an AFL coach i'd probably take the picks now. you just dont know where you will be in 3-4 years time as a coach to worry about whats best for the club. even that "best" is arguable if you can fill a massive need now!

Now im by no means certain but from the one official article i saw about it the tier 3 compensation picks fell after our priority pick but before our second rounder. Not sure on tier 2 picks but logically you would think they'd fall before our priority.

 

[numbat06]

Josh Caddy, Dyson Heppell the best in the new clean hands test.

 

[Patron]

Not really worried about people using their picks before our pp. Even if they are able to why would they use it as pick 26 when in a few years it would be 19? that aint make sense to me and i dont think clubs will do it. unless they were starting to come out of their rebuild ie finished like say a melb.

 

[Patron]

According to who? BF has a habit of totally getting the draft order wrong which suggests people's talent spotting abilities on here are non-existant.
Players talked up around here in the past ended up slipping to the rookie draft or not being drafted at all.

You say 4-11 are all equal, but as a recruiter I'd rather have pick #4 and pick the best of that lot than have #9 & #11 and just pick what's left (players logically considered the worst of that lot by professional talent scouts).

You honestly wouldnt take picks 9 and 11 for pick 4 in this draft? of the above mentioned pick the players you think are the two worst. Then pick which you think is the best. You honestly wouldnt prefer the two "worse" players over the one "better" player.
For me its darling, gorringe over heppell.
I would take that in a heartbeat and i am dead set on us drafting mids in this draft.
Keep in mind that these are not likely to be the exact top 11 it is likely that another player will sneak in such as macarthy or somebody so our choice at eleven is likely to be of the bottom 2 on that list not of the bottom.

If it was pick 3 it would be a different story but its not its pick 4 and pick 9 and 11 are better.

 

[Galileo9]

Not really worried about people using their picks before our pp. Even if they are able to why would they use it as pick 26 when in a few years it would be 19? that aint make sense to me and i dont think clubs will do it. unless they were starting to come out of their rebuild ie finished like say a melb.

yes the draft number is higher, but its not like comparing pick 1 and pick 8. gaps in talent generally 19 through to 26 isnt as extreme and if a coach has a need now, it wouldnt make sense to hold onto picks. especially the current clubs who have given up a player who are all virtually in their window. if there is a hole, needs to be filled now, not 3-4 years down the track.

there is no future in holding onto a 1x end of first round draft pick. it isnt going to rebuild ANY club. thats why it makes sense to go for it now and have a crack at another premiership. teams cant always favour "future" first.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

Have to say - with all of the whinging about clubs not drafting 'footballers', but rather 'athletes' - the same fans seem to take an awful amount of interest in the athletic feats of the players.

 

[wcesam]

From AFL.com.au

It turns out that Gaff has elite speed. From being considered likely to go in the top half dozen in the national draft, it now seems certain he’ll go at No.4 (West Coast) or No.5 (Gold Coast). Richmond, at six, should be no chance.

What do you guys think? Sure he's quick, but he doesn't use his pace in the way we require i.e. he's too much of an in-and-under player. Maybe we could use him in a more outside role?

 

[beatlesmith]

From AFL.com.au


What do you guys think? Sure he's quick, but he doesn't use his pace in the way we require i.e. he's too much of an in-and-under player. Maybe we could use him in a more outside role?

He's an outside player in the Fletcher role.
Not damaging enough for me. Heppell is a better kick, better overhead.
Gaff might have produced a good sprint time, but he has never reproduced that on the field. The fact that Lamb, a known speedster, did not feature in the top 10 only confirms this.

 

[Prem87]

From what I've seen Gaff's kicking seems suss.

 

[mitchzz]

From what I've seen Gaff's kicking seems suss.

Really? I reckon from what I've seen he is a great kick especially over shorter distances.

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Interesting to see the beep test, I reckon he might destroy it.

 

[Byron_Clanger]

According to afl.com, Jed Lamb went 97% efficiency in the Nathan Buckley kicking drills, may need to look into that, we need kickers

 

[worsfold]

Awsome talls in this draft with Lynch at 199cm, Mitchell at 198, Gorringe at 200cm, Day at 196cm+, McCarthy at 195cm+, Watson 194cm+ as well as Lycett, Cook and many more.

Lynch's mobility and speed for 199cm is owesome he would be my pick although I was worried he's too tall for KP?

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

You honestly wouldnt take picks 9 and 11 for pick 4 in this draft? of the above mentioned pick the players you think are the two worst. Then pick which you think is the best. You honestly wouldnt prefer the two "worse" players over the one "better" player.
For me its darling, gorringe over heppell.
I would take that in a heartbeat and i am dead set on us drafting mids in this draft.
Keep in mind that these are not likely to be the exact top 11 it is likely that another player will sneak in such as macarthy or somebody so our choice at eleven is likely to be of the bottom 2 on that list not of the bottom.

If it was pick 3 it would be a different story but its not its pick 4 and pick 9 and 11 are better.

I don't pretend to be an expert on young kids, so I won't be picking my #4 vs #9 & 11.

Where I'm coming from is the perspective that a #4 pick doesn't come around too often, and its at the top end of the draft that the real talent is taken. At #9 or #11 you may still get a gun player, but that is less likely than at #4.

Its the old arguement of quantity over quality.

 

[Prem87]

We already have one Rosa we don't need another.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

According to afl.com, Jed Lamb went 97% efficiency in the Nathan Buckley kicking drills, may need to look into that, we need kickers

If he lasts to 26 then god yes. Can't see that happening though.

 

[PRANKSTER666]

I guess the two question marks over Heppell before DC was his speed and ability to become a genuine midfielder.

His 20m sprint time and Beep test should put those two questions to bed.

Surely must be the standout Pick 4 now.

We love our captains and he will have an ex Gippsland Power team mate in Stevens, now how do we get Lamb...

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Lynch did a 14.8 in the beep test. Not bad for a 199cm 18 year old...

 

[PRANKSTER666]

Lynch did a 14.8 in the beep test. Not bad for a 199cm 18 year old...

Lynch looks a good prospect but I don't think we can afford to take a risk with pick 4 given our list and big fellas represent alot more risk than the mids.

If we don't look at a key forward with our next two picks this year then maybe we can look at one next year with our first rounder, which will hopefully be in the teens.

 

[Shazzman]

Wow Wilkinson he's got the quickness and stamina but can he play footy?

 

[PRANKSTER666]

Wow Wilkinson he's got the quickness and stamina but can he play footy?

Think he was MVP for QLD in the u18 carnival but I can't be bothered verifying it.