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They said that 6 months ago too.Caro just said on FC that it's her understanding that CS has signed a three year contract.
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They said that 6 months ago too.Caro just said on FC that it's her understanding that CS has signed a three year contract.
Glad all we need is some good quality draft picks to pick up a flag because that's worked well for GWS, Suns and Saints of late.
Once CS contract comes to a close, id love to see a former player coach.
Whether it’s Stevie J, Kelly, Enright or Scarlo, I couldn’t care, a GFC favourite son and a fresh voice could be what we need?
After decades of it not working.Worked well for Melbourne, Richmond and the Dogs though.
She's just giving every side on this thread something to cheer aboutWhy would he sign a 3-year deal if he intended to move?
After decades of it not working.
After decades of it not working.
Agree with all that. But also a hell of a lot of luck with player injuries, and other eventualities.Probably because you also need patience, good player development, and astute coaching. If you think draft picks alone are the answer it will fail, as St.Kilda and Carlton found out, and unlike them, Richmond and Melbourne learned from it then added those three attributes above. We had those without high draft picks and it seemed to work out ok.
Every club in the modern era to be successful has built its team off the back of drafting. The builds fail many times, but going to the draft to build your core group is also the only way you'll get anywhere. Any great team of the last few decades has been built this way. None have been players cobbled loosely together from elsewhere. Absolutely supplemented with trade-ins, free agent, rookie picks, state leaguers, etc. but your multiple top-end draft picks are central.After decades of it not working.
Every club in the modern era to be successful has built its team off the back of drafting. The builds fail many times, but going to the draft to build your core group is also the only way you'll get anywhere. Any great team of the last few decades has been built this way. None have been players cobbled loosely together from elsewhere. Absolutely supplemented with trade-ins, free agent, rookie picks, state leaguers, etc. but your multiple top-end draft picks are central.
You accept that the build from the draft model works every so often, but has failed for Saints, Carlton, Essendon etc, but Geelong’s method which results in top 4 finishes, you think is unsuccessful. You have to be in it to win itEvery club in the modern era to be successful has built its team off the back of drafting. The builds fail many times, but going to the draft to build your core group is also the only way you'll get anywhere. Any great team of the last few decades has been built this way. None have been players cobbled loosely together from elsewhere. Absolutely supplemented with trade-ins, free agent, rookie picks, state leaguers, etc. but your multiple top-end draft picks are central.
You accept that the build from the draft model works every so often, but has failed for Saints, Carlton, Essendon etc, but Geelong’s method which results in top 4 finishes, you think is unsuccessful. You have to be in it to win it
And other clubs have done both with few top 4 finishes. Got to be in it to win it."Works every so often" = wins premierships. Top 4 finishes are not premierships. A forgotten fact is that Geelong also won premierships, by building from the draft.
It's a very simple comparison. A club tried one way (drafting), and won three flags. The same club has since tried another way (topping up), and has the eternal glory of top 4 finishes, but no flags. If only one result was better than the other.
Exactly, and with our perpetual top 4 finishes, we never have that luxury.Every club in the modern era to be successful has built its team off the back of drafting. The builds fail many times, but going to the draft to build your core group is also the only way you'll get anywhere. Any great team of the last few decades has been built this way. None have been players cobbled loosely together from elsewhere. Absolutely supplemented with trade-ins, free agent, rookie picks, state leaguers, etc. but your multiple top-end draft picks are central.
Of course it doesn’t work all the time. Only 1 team out of 18 can win it every year, so by the law of averages a lot of teams will fail to win a flag by building through the draft.You accept that the build from the draft model works every so often, but has failed for Saints, Carlton, Essendon etc, but Geelong’s method which results in top 4 finishes, you think is unsuccessful. You have to be in it to win it
Not many teams been in the position of being a 3 time flag winning team, gradually losing all those players, yet able to remain competitive."Works every so often" = wins premierships. Top 4 finishes are not premierships. A forgotten fact is that Geelong also won premierships, by building from the draft.
It's a very simple comparison. A club tried one way (drafting), and won three flags. The same club has since tried another way (topping up), and has the eternal glory of top 4 finishes, but no flags. If only one result was better than the other.
What is the worst that could happen?Of course it doesn’t work all the time. Only 1 team out of 18 can win it every year, so by the law of averages a lot of teams will fail to win a flag by building through the draft.
It beats treading water as perpetual finals failures though. For us it was worth a shot, but they kept trying it for too long and now we have a huge hole in our list of middle age players, and we have a third of the team near retirement age. When they go over the next couple of seasons we are stuffed.
Thought he was great last night, as usual, very confident media performer, but I was most pleased that he has the passion to join SH on his quest to keep us relevant. He coukd easily have joined the assistants, and Buckley, as a burnt-out Post Covid coach. The way our season finished was very galling for the club, and maybe they believe with a fit JC, Danger, Ceglar, that we are still a chance this year to pinch one.Needs to go back to the suave long hair tbh
Serious?What is the worst that could happen?
Several years near the bottom?
Wow, thought most would love that- finally get all those juicy draft picks
"Works every so often" = wins premierships. Top 4 finishes are not premierships. A forgotten fact is that Geelong also won premierships, by building from the draft.
It's a very simple comparison. A club tried one way (drafting), and won three flags. The same club has since tried another way (topping up), and has the eternal glory of top 4 finishes, but no flags. If only one result was better than the other.
Ah the Scott outers. A gift.inevitable rebuild be significantly longer.
We won’t have a choice when a third of our team retires over the next few seasons, and we are left with a bunch of kids.Ah the Scott outers. A gift.
We don’t do that rebuild in the doldrums nonsense. That’s for loser clubs.
Rebuilding is a constant process and we won’t/don’t dip for long.