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I think this is the best appraisal so far.
I just wish Carlton had been able to get both Kreuzer and Cotchin. Alas - such as things are - couldn't pass on a talented big man like Kreuzer. Please come to Carlton, Trent
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2007 Draft - Revisited (Mid Season)
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I just wish Carlton had been able to get both Kreuzer and Cotchin. Alas - such as things are - couldn't pass on a talented big man like Kreuzer. Please come to Carlton, Trent
You can do it on who has shown more (apples and oranges), but I think if the teams had it over again, not much would change.
Carlton would still take Kreuzer.
Richmond would still take Cotchin.
West Coast would probably take Palmer.
Melbourne would still take Morton.
After that I'm not sure
Carlton would still take Kreuzer.
Richmond would still take Cotchin.
West Coast would probably take Palmer.
Melbourne would still take Morton.
After that I'm not sure
very well sed, and accurate
just my own opinion cotchin will be the best, cant wait for rd 16 cothcin vs kruzer old teamates .hopefully kruzer forgets and taps it to us
I disagree.
Wona rarely wastes a disposal. He always places the ball to the advantage of a team mate. His set shot is extremely good and so is his defensive pressure.
You’re right in saying he gets a lot of his goals from standing behind packs and running on to the loose ball.
I can see him continually doing this for the next 10 years.
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This is a strange one, I keep hearing different reports with regards to his speed. Some people say he has pace, then others say otherwise.
Still reckon that overall with the Picks we had (7 - Palmer, 24 - Hinkley, 40 - Mayne and 56 - Bradley) Fremantle actually did the best in the draft overall. Mayne had 20 possessions on the W/E and was in contention for a Rising star Nomination, Bradley showed his worth versus anything else available at pick 56 against Carlton and Hinkley will be good as well after he spends a year in the gym bulking up.
Pretty much agree with Ablettttttttt!'s summary. I actually don't think the order would change massively if they redid the draft today with all the clubs having seen the players run around for half a season.
As for Rioli, it will all come down to whether he can build a motor and enough size to play midfield over the next few years. If he does, with his pace and skills you think he'd go past a few blokes who were drafted ahead of him, but if he stays as a forward pocket, even a very, very good one, you'd be annoyed at spending pick 5 or 6 on him.
I personally wouldn't have used pick one on a ruckman, even one as highly touted as Kreuzer, but that's just me.
Way too early to tell, but it's looking like the top 13 is going to turn out to be loaded with gun mids, even going down to a bloke like Ward at 19ish. Before the draft the word seemed to be the top 10 were as good as any year with decent players down to about 25, and then not much. It will be interesting what comes out of those pick 25+ players.
As for Rioli, it will all come down to whether he can build a motor and enough size to play midfield over the next few years. If he does, with his pace and skills you think he'd go past a few blokes who were drafted ahead of him, but if he stays as a forward pocket, even a very, very good one, you'd be annoyed at spending pick 5 or 6 on him.
I personally wouldn't have used pick one on a ruckman, even one as highly touted as Kreuzer, but that's just me.
Way too early to tell, but it's looking like the top 13 is going to turn out to be loaded with gun mids, even going down to a bloke like Ward at 19ish. Before the draft the word seemed to be the top 10 were as good as any year with decent players down to about 25, and then not much. It will be interesting what comes out of those pick 25+ players.
I think it's a very good draft to be in if your a kid, this will be the last chance clubs will get a crack at good kids for a while . With the new clubs getting the eye of the draft for the next 5 years at least.picks 10-15 this year will be the sort of kid existing clubs will get first crack at next year so i think you will find clubs will load up on kids this year clear there stocks for kids .
melbourne150
All Australian
Is Wonaeamirri the leading goal scorer from last years draft with 15?
The only other player i could think of was Rioli but he's kcicked 13.
The only other player i could think of was Rioli but he's kcicked 13.
Palmer is a gun and should come in before Kreuzer.
So many of these fantasy revisited drafts are absurd. Teams pick to what they believe are there needs. Some clubs may have realised half way through this year that their needs are different to what they expected. This in mind, this is how I would see it panning out with the luxury of 6 months foresight. I'm ignoring injuries and setbacks some top ten players have had.
1. Kruezer (Carlton needed a tall, obvious selection, always has been)
2. Cotchin (Injury setbacks, but looks the goods)
3. Masten (WCE were reluctant to punt on Morton, was reported)
4. Palmer (Some heart is what Melbourne need, obvious)
5. Morton (Kid is class, and a steal at pick 5)
6. Myers (Efficient ball user who can play midfield or stream from defense)
7. Ebert (Freo need an engine, best *potential* engine left)
8. Grant (Brissy wanted a good tall in Henderson, Grant will be better)
9. Dangerfield (Kid is reported as all class, would prefer to stay in VIC)
10. Rioli (Crows need speed and a guy who knows where the goals are)
Notable exceptions:
* Lachlan Henderson - Brisbane's pick 8 just hasn't showed enough, true he is a tall that needs more time to develop, not judging just think there were better options.
*Ben McEvoy - Saints' pick 9 hasn't cracked into the seniors yet. Read some good reports but once again, talls take longer to develop. Dangerfield probably stepped up more since draft time.
*Harry Taylor - Alot of people have put Harry Taylor up there, but he is turning 22 tomorrow, so he was a much older pick up for the Cats to cover the loss of defender Matthew Egan.
*Austin Wonaeamirri - Once again a lot of people are putting him in their top 10, even as high as 3 in some cases. This is ridiculous. The kid is great don't get me wrong. Shows a lot of heart, decent decision making, fast and can kick a goal (and celebrate one). But the truth is, 8 months ago he was dismissed by every AFL club and only picked up on the rookie list. A great pick up for the rookie list, but he doesn't have the long term jeopardy to be a serious top 10 candidate. Possibly would have been elevated to a second round pick based on his 9 performances this year.
1. Kruezer (Carlton needed a tall, obvious selection, always has been)
2. Cotchin (Injury setbacks, but looks the goods)
3. Masten (WCE were reluctant to punt on Morton, was reported)
4. Palmer (Some heart is what Melbourne need, obvious)
5. Morton (Kid is class, and a steal at pick 5)
6. Myers (Efficient ball user who can play midfield or stream from defense)
7. Ebert (Freo need an engine, best *potential* engine left)
8. Grant (Brissy wanted a good tall in Henderson, Grant will be better)
9. Dangerfield (Kid is reported as all class, would prefer to stay in VIC)
10. Rioli (Crows need speed and a guy who knows where the goals are)
Notable exceptions:
* Lachlan Henderson - Brisbane's pick 8 just hasn't showed enough, true he is a tall that needs more time to develop, not judging just think there were better options.
*Ben McEvoy - Saints' pick 9 hasn't cracked into the seniors yet. Read some good reports but once again, talls take longer to develop. Dangerfield probably stepped up more since draft time.
*Harry Taylor - Alot of people have put Harry Taylor up there, but he is turning 22 tomorrow, so he was a much older pick up for the Cats to cover the loss of defender Matthew Egan.
*Austin Wonaeamirri - Once again a lot of people are putting him in their top 10, even as high as 3 in some cases. This is ridiculous. The kid is great don't get me wrong. Shows a lot of heart, decent decision making, fast and can kick a goal (and celebrate one). But the truth is, 8 months ago he was dismissed by every AFL club and only picked up on the rookie list. A great pick up for the rookie list, but he doesn't have the long term jeopardy to be a serious top 10 candidate. Possibly would have been elevated to a second round pick based on his 9 performances this year.
BacharHouli_43
Senior List
1 - rioli
2- palmer
3- kreuzer
4- Cotchin
5- Masten
6- Ebert
7- Morton
8- Myers
9- Dangerfield
10- Grant
2- palmer
3- kreuzer
4- Cotchin
5- Masten
6- Ebert
7- Morton
8- Myers
9- Dangerfield
10- Grant
Your an idiot
Rioli has been good but small forwards dont go number one...especially not when the actual top 4 consists of a most porbable 200-250 game ruckman, very good ruckman, and then Cotchin, Masten and Morton who all look like they will be A grade midfielders
I would say:
1: Kreuzer (Carlton has there gun midfielders but needed a ruckmen, always gonna happen and good pick)
2: Cotchin (Hasnt played as many games as others but when he builds his tank up is going to be an absolute gun)
3: Masten or Palmer (Either would do fine for the eagles, Pamler has showed more as he is already the no.1 midfielder in the dockers, but Mastens disposal and hardness is better. Masten will play 250 games for the eagles)
4: Palmer
5: Morton
6: Myers
7: Rioli
8: Ebert
9: Wona
10: Bird
nsw scholarship holder. not possible to go top anything
but was regarded as best nsw player coming into the draft
anyone got any other names of nsw players on a list, i can think of ryan davis (wc, nsw scholarship holder also). can anyone think of anyone not a nsw scholarship holder?
Schmick
Club Legend
1. Cotchin
2. Kruezer
3. Masten
4. Palmer
5. Rioli
6. Myers
7. Morton
8. Ebert
9. Taylor
2. Kruezer
3. Masten
4. Palmer
5. Rioli
6. Myers
7. Morton
8. Ebert
9. Taylor
Can't believe the hype Wona is getting, he's great but top 10?
1. Kruezer
2. Cotchin (very close to number 1)
3. Palmer
4. Morton
5. Masten
6. Taylor
7. Myers
8. Callan Ward (Gun)
9. Ebert
10. Rioli
1. Kruezer
2. Cotchin (very close to number 1)
3. Palmer
4. Morton
5. Masten
6. Taylor
7. Myers
8. Callan Ward (Gun)
9. Ebert
10. Rioli
Masten2McKinley
Club Legend
That sounds about right atm,
Masten2McKinley
Club Legend
ill hold u to that in 3 years time
the kid is goin to be a very good player
this tread is labled 2007 drafted revisited, why do people keep changing it to who i think is the best from the 2007 draft?
if carlton had recruited palmer it would be the biggest waste of a pick. what are they goin to do with another small onballer?
1. Palmer - rising star winner.
2. Rioli - been one of the most consistent performers so far.
3. Morton - gun, has been one of the few shining lights so far for the dees.
4. Cotchin - a year younger plus he's had a great month.
5. Kreuzer - for a big guy he's had a great start
6. Wonaearmirri - great pickup
7. Masten will be a good player.
No other draftee has shown much.
That's not to say that Rioli should have been picked second and teams made a mistake, certain players will have good starts to their careers and some wont. Players like Grant and Henderson will come on later, so this is more a grading of who has started better than a revisited draft order. Dees supporters should be happy with this drafting effort.
2. Rioli - been one of the most consistent performers so far.
3. Morton - gun, has been one of the few shining lights so far for the dees.
4. Cotchin - a year younger plus he's had a great month.
5. Kreuzer - for a big guy he's had a great start
6. Wonaearmirri - great pickup
7. Masten will be a good player.
No other draftee has shown much.
That's not to say that Rioli should have been picked second and teams made a mistake, certain players will have good starts to their careers and some wont. Players like Grant and Henderson will come on later, so this is more a grading of who has started better than a revisited draft order. Dees supporters should be happy with this drafting effort.
So you think Carlton should have picked Palmer?
How do people have Grant in their top 10 picks, after exactly zero games?
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