2011 Ladder Predictions - Part 2

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1. Collingwood
2. St. Kilda
3. Hawthorn
4. Carlton
5. Sydney
6. Fremantle
7. Melbourne
8. North Melbourne

9. Adelaide
10. Geelong
11. Western Bulldogs
12. Richmond
13. Port Adelaide
14. Brisbane
15. Essendon
16. West Coast
17. Gold Coast


EDIT: I'm just spitballin' so don't get annoyed people.
 
1. Collingwood
2. St. Kilda Premiers
3. Western Bulldogs Runners up
4. Carlton
5. Geelong
6. Sydney
7. Fremantle
8. Hawthorne

9. Melbourne
10. North Melbourne
11. Richmond
12. Adelaide
13. Port Adelaide
14. Essendon
15. Gold Coast
16. West Coast
17. Brisbane Lions Wooden Spooners

Now that's just my opinion, but it will be interesting to read back on these after October 2011.
 
1. Collingwood
Still look like the best team and may get better.
2. Western Bulldogs
Just a hunch. They will need Cooney, Higgins and Griffen fit and firing, but if they get it, I couldn't possibly see them falling far.
3. Carlton
Gibbs and Murphy will be stars this season.
4. St.Kilda
Tough like always, as long as Goddard, Hayes and Riewodlt are on song they will be good value for money.
5. Melbourne
As flexible a forward line as there is, it could end up being there winning trademark...Jurrah, Dunn, Petterd, Sylvia, Green, Watts. Good options.
6. Hawthorn
Will need Hodge, Franklin and Rioli to strike it big this season to be higher. I say one of those 3 has a down year. Lack midfield variety and depth. Lewis/Sewell/Mitchell/Hodge are pretty similar types.
7. Geelong
It would seem inevitable that they will slide, how far is anyone's guess. A lot depends on how good Selwood actually is. If he performs as the no.1 mid, then they should be fine.
8. Fremantle
I see a bit of a slip. Sandilands would have to back up his enormous work last season and they also need some midfield luck (Barlow/Palmer) and help for Mundy. Hill is likely to be tagged all season long.
9. Sydney
New coach and we will know a lot more about a lot of the Swans players at the end of the season. Im predicting Kennedy, McGlynn and Mumford don't match their 2010s and will we see the real O'Keefe and McVeigh??
10. Adelaide
Need a lot more matches into their midfield, if Thompson goes down they are shot, there is little other reliable help.
11. Port Adelaide
Hardest one to place because I probably know the least about their players. There is some midfield talent on the list but I say they are a fair way off reaching consistency.
12. Essendon
Sure to start the season well, but will drop off as there lack of midfield polish begins to show.
13. Richmond
I think they will be focusing on being competitive in all games and harder to beat, and I think this will happen as Hardwick develops a more defensive game style. Sneak a few close wins and hopefully never get blown away.
14. North Melbourne
A lot of injury news around, and Harvey isn't getting any younger. There were a lot of easy beat sides in 2010 who North always defeated, I think there will be less in 2011. The midfield is too young to cover the ordinary defense and forward lines.
15. West Coast
Just lacking class. Sometimes young guys take a while to get their AFL level disposal on track, let's hope its the case with the Eagles youngsters.
16. Brisbane
Ouch. They will be relying on guys like Redden and Rockliff far too much, and with Brown seemingly always a game away from kryptonite disease (he turns back into Clark Kent due to knee/hip/hamstring/groin/ankle problems) they will really struggle.
17. Gold Coast
Much too young, they will lead for a long time in a lot of games but simply get run over by more seasoned players. I can see 2 maybe 3 wins for the year.
 

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1. Collingwood
2. St. Kilda
3. Hawthorn
4. Western Bulldogs
5. Carlton
6. Fremantle
7. Geelong
8. North Melbourne

9. Sydney
10. Adelaide
11. Melbourne
12. Richmond
13. Port Adelaide
14. Brisbane
15. Essendon
16. West Coast
17. Gold Coast
 
conodie05 said:
AFL Ladder Predictions in a nutshell:

1. I will exaggerate my team's chances either intentionally or subconsciously because its my team and regardless of where we are at I believe we are a genuine chance this year. I will be shot down by all and sundry who will state facts and figures as to why my team should not and will not finish here. I will retort with an inner belief that our time has come.

2. I put the team I most despise well below where they will logically finish because of my bias against them. I will then be shot down by supporters of said team and will make up some outlandish statement as to why I put them there. After the obligatory retort from supporters I will then get personal. This is where a mum joke may appear.

3. I will inadvertantly omit a side whilst placing another side in my ladder twice. Generally, this will be either North Melbourne or Port Adelaide. Not sure why, thats just how it happens.

4. I will mull over where to put Sydney.

5. I will search for ladder prediction thread at the end of season 2011 and get seriously frustrated that the thread has disappeared. After sifting through 65 pages of december/January/February threads I finally find it only to realise that I was waaaaaay out.
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So true.

Seems to apply mainly to Saints, North and Carlton fans in this thread.
 
1. Collingwood
2. St. Kilda
3. Hawthorn
4. Fremantle
5. Bulldogs
6. Geelong
7. Carlton
8. Sydney
--
9. Melbourne
10. Adelaide
11. North Melbourne
12. Richmond
13. Port Adelaide
14. Brisbane
15. Essendon
16. West Coast
17. Gold Coast

I have no doubt in my mind this will be a long way off.
 
Going to try and be a bit different on this one

1. Collingwood
2. Sydney
3. Adelaide
4. St Kilda
5. North Melbounre
6. Bulldogs
7. Geelong
8. Melbourne
9. Bulldogs
10. Essendon
11. West Coast
12. Port Adelaide
13. Hawthorne
14. Carlton
15. Richmond
16. Gold Coast
17. Brisbane
 
Patch Adams said:
Going to try and be a bit different on this one

1. Collingwood
2. Sydney
3. Adelaide
4. St Kilda
5. North Melbounre
6. Bulldogs
7. Geelong
8. Melbourne
9. Bulldogs
10. Essendon
11. West Coast
12. Port Adelaide
13. Hawthorne
14. Carlton
15. Richmond
16. Gold Coast
17. Brisbane
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Well it worked.
 
conodie05 said:
AFL Ladder Predictions in a nutshell:

1. I will exaggerate my team's chances either intentionally or subconsciously because its my team and regardless of where we are at I believe we are a genuine chance this year. I will be shot down by all and sundry who will state facts and figures as to why my team should not and will not finish here. I will retort with an inner belief that our time has come.

2. I put the team I most despise well below where they will logically finish because of my bias against them. I will then be shot down by supporters of said team and will make up some outlandish statement as to why I put them there. After the obligatory retort from supporters I will then get personal. This is where a mum joke may appear.

3. I will inadvertantly omit a side whilst placing another side in my ladder twice. Generally, this will be either North Melbourne or Port Adelaide. Not sure why, thats just how it happens.

4. I will mull over where to put Sydney.

5. I will search for ladder prediction thread at the end of season 2011 and get seriously frustrated that the thread has disappeared. After sifting through 65 pages of december/January/February threads I finally find it only to realise that I was waaaaaay out.
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gees that is all just wrong in so many ways i dont know where to begin:rolleyes:, so will just do my ladder instead -

1. Bulldogs
2. Essendon
3. North
4. umm Sydeny
5. Port Adelaide
6. Melbourne
7. Adelaide
8. Geelong
9. Collingwood
10. St Kilda
11. North
12. West Coast
13. Richmond
14. Gold Coast
15. Hawthorn
16. Brisbane
17. Carlton

bookmark it:thumbsu:
 
1. Collingwood
2. St. Kilda
3. Fremantle
4. Geelong
5. Hawthorn
6. Bulldogs
7. Adelaide
8. Sydney
--
9. Carlton
10. Melbourne
11. Richmond
12. Brisbane
13. Port Adelaide
14. North Melbourne
15. Gold Coast
16. Essendon
17. West Coast

Pretty confident the top 6 will make it. 7th and 8th is more of a guess. Especially Sydney who could finish anywhere from 7th to 14th.
Can't see Essendon holding up for 22 rounds. They'll look ok early but too many passengers.
Gold Coast will win a few home games.
North will struggle - too much weight for an ageing Boomer to carry.
Geelong have too much depth to fall off the pack that much.
Freo will win most home games.
Young teams like Richmond, Melbourne, Gold Coast will run out of legs late in the year also.
West Coast will again struggle and Woosha will get the tap on the shoulder.

Brownlow - G. Ablett.
GF - St Kilda v Hawthorn
Rising Star - Swallow
Coaches that will finish up - Worsfold, Ratten
 
Shpeshal Ed said:
So true.

Seems to apply mainly to Saints, North and Carlton fans in this thread.
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I was thinking more North, Essendon and Hawthorn fans. .. The main ones that put Carlton ~10th and their team in the 8 (or 1st in the case of Hawks fans). .. Most Carlton fans put the Blues 4-6 which is not OTT I'd think? But then I am biased I guess ;)

Edit: or should that be Tigers, Bombers, Kangas and the occasional Hawks supporter with a hatred of The Blues. ..
 

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1. Collingwood - class and depth. I feel the only team that can beat Collingwood this year is themselves.
2. Geelong - embarrassed and proud. Probably their last crack at a premiership in the near future. Scott will need to introduce more youth and speed along the way.
3. Fremantle - combination of good youngsters and some gun senior players in Sandilands and Pavlich and home ground advantage should see them win enough games to finish top 4.
4. Adelaide - good draw and some really classy players. Smacked by injuries last year but despite this, very nearly made finals. Surprise packet of 2011.
5. Saints - too reliant on too few. Just how long can they keep up their brilliance? I'm predicting a slight slide for the Sainters this year.
6. Carlton - much like the Adelaide team of a few years back (with Goodwin, McLeod, Edwards and Ricciuto), a classy midfield will ensure that they are around the mark again. Memo to Ratten: Gibbs is a midfielder and a very, very good one at that.
7. Hawthorn - seem to have a weak underbelly that is stopping them from achieving to their potential. Despite this, Buddy and Rioli could fire the Hawks into the top 4 on their own if they remain fit and motivated.
8. North Melbourne - Really like their blend of experience and youth but still seem to lack that touch of brilliance apart from Boomer. I feel that Hansen could be a real bolter this year.
9. Melbourne - so much talent, so little experience.They'll be similar to the Saints in the early noughties when they simply demolished teams before inexplicably losing the next week.
10. Sydney - I'll be honest, not sure what to expect from the Swans. What effect will having their spiritual leader (Kirk) and coach have on their team?
11. West Coast - incredibly poor last year given the talent on the list. I expect an improvement from their youngsters, Le Cras to become a top 10 AFL player and Cox to return to AA form.
12. Western Bulldogs - I thought they were very ordinary last year and their record flattered them. We'll see I guess...
13. Essendon - Knights has done the dirty work, now comes the acid test. I expect a more accountable team that will build success around team work as opposed to individual brilliance. The beginning of a new midfield will be born.
14. Port Adelaide - front runners for mine who can be brilliant but can crumble under pressure.
15. Richmond - Late resurgence covered the fact that they are pretty ordinary. Riewoldt set for a much tougher year as coaches from opposing teams will have down their homework.
16. Brisbane - A huge test for Voss to find some unity with his playing group and to keep their main man, J.Brown on the park.
17. Gold Coast - They're not playing for this year, but 2-3 years down the track. With that in mind, they'll get plenty of time into their promising kids.
 
WCE_phil said:
BTW guys fremantle have had another setback with barlow has had a 3 month setback in his recovery. Fremantle are 1 key injury away from bottom 4 and it's paying good money atm.
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no, it said he was 3 months away from a full game, making it round three i think. not a 3 month set back, but feel free to keep hoping.

go put a bet on then phil. :) fools and their money are easily parted...
 
1. Hawthorn- Gone a bit far right on this one but having been on the wrong side of injuries of late and if they can get a bit of luck could really be a force.

2. Fremantle- Got hammered by injuries last year and finished poorly due to this should come storming out of the blocks again and this time no injuries hopefully.

3. Collingwood- Very good team but it will be interesting to see how they go as the hunted(game plan and certain players) now and had a good run with injuries last year but i wouldn't be surprised to see them win it again and they probably will.

4. Geelong- Should still be up there but losing so many players even fringe players over the last few year might hurt them imo but a new game plan might win them a few extra games that they lost last year. But then again Geelong will be the interesting team to watch a few injuries to older player and i think we might even see a mini rebuild.

5. Carlton- Improving team that should keep improving but they aren't a top 4 team yet.

6. Bulldogs- IMO have some really good young players coming through but imo they might have to drop a game or 2 to get some exp into some of these younger guys. But their trade week might suggest otherwise again like geelong another interesting team.

7. St. Kilda- I think the off season has done a lot damage saint and can see a few more injuries to as players keep ageing

8. Adelaide- Nothing to exciting here got some good kids coming through and home games should sneak them into the finals
--
9. Sydney- Like crows and these 2 could be swapped

10. Melbourne- Good young midfield coming through but they might fade off at seasons end

11. Brisbane- Very unlucky with injuries last year they were hammer. They are now in re build mode after losing lots of experienced players but they have some good young talent.

12. Essendon- Wont comment

13. Port Adelaide- Like lions probably not as many injuries though and not enough experienced talent.

14. West Coast- Our going with youth but i'm not to sure about some of their young mids be interesting to see how they go.

15. North Melbourne- Not that i don't rate them but one team always seems to get r*ped by injuries and i think by the looks of things it might just be norths year sorry guys:(.

16. Richmond- Just not good enough got a couple really talent players but then it really drops off from there

17. Gold Coast- Someone has to finish bottom and i can see goldie really getting some games into their kids costing them games but they probably wont care.
 
1 - Sydney
2 - Saints
3 - Geelong
4 - Dogs
5 - Collingwood
6 - Freo
7 - Blues
8 - North
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9 - Melbourne
10 - Hawks
11 - Crows
12 - Gold Coast
13 - Tigers
14 - Eagles
15 - Bombers
16 - Port
17 - Lions

Swap Swans with Pies for less-biased ladder
 
SirJimi05 said:
You've really gone out on a limb with your ladder. You should be commended for showing such foresight and originality. :thumbsu:
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It's a ladder prediction. It doesn't have to be original. Just because I believe Essendon will be wooden spooners or at best bottom 4 does not make it shit.

Slattery_20 said:
I keep seeing this.
I disagree.

We have ruckmen who got smashed by just about every side - Brogan taught both Hille & Ryder a lesson, they both made NicNat look good, McIntosh had a good game, Jolly killed us, Mumford about a billion hit-outs (as you should know), Warnock.
As a team, ranked 14th in hitouts for the year despite playing 2 big blokes just about every week.

I'd certainly agree our midfield is average or below; but to say our rucks are 'excellent' would be a bit hard to argue IMHO on present form.
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They are still Top 10 rucks in the league but with the new interchange rules perhaps one of Hille being a more prominent forward or Ryder more in defence should happen?
 
For sides to get in you have to have sides drop out and it's hard to see which ones will.

Collingwood, Saints, Geelong and Bulldogs would probably be certainties but I'm not convinced Freo are that good and I reckon there are at least 9 games they could lose away from home.

The other sides from last year Hawthorn, Sydney and Carlton would need a lot of things to go wrong if they are to fall out. So who will drop out?

Maybe Hawthorn are vunerable but Carlton should make it and the Swans seem to be thereabouts each year.

Of the clubs outside the top eight North and Melbourne must be in with a chance as would Adelaide, but it's going to be difficult to dislodge one of the incumbents.

So I think that Freo and Hawthorn are the two that are most at risk followed to a lesser degree by Sydney and Carlton.
 
Okay.

Just created this ladder after doing a season of tips for a competition.

1. Fremantle (20-2)
2. Geelong (19-3)
3. Collingwood (18-4)
4. Footscray (17-5)
5. Essendon (16-6)
6. Melbourne (15-7)
7. St. Kilda (14-8)
8. Adelaide (12-10)
-----------------------
9. Carlton (8-14)
10. Gold Coast (8-14)
11. Hawthorn (8-14)
12. North Melbourne (7-15)
13. Port Adelaide (6-16)
14. Richmond (5-17)
15. Sydney (5-17)
16. West Coast (5-17)
17. Brisbane (4-18)
 

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