2013 Draft - Risers, Sliders, Shocks, Locks, Who?

[Swanhotels]

Thats not a guarantee, Menzel and Grundy were invited last year also.

Ahh right I see. Id love for McCarthey to slip to the Swans even though we a have a glutton of forwards. He will probably end up at the Blues I reckon. Lewis Taylor needs to come on down to the Swans!

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Ahh right I see. Id love for McCarthey to slip to the Swans even though we a have a glutton of forwards. He will probably end up at the Blues I reckon. Lewis Taylor needs to come on down to the Swans!

I've changed my mind on McCarthy - at first I was hell-bent on us getting a midfielder, but now I'm not so sure given all of his press and what he can offer to us.

I think we should take the second best available KPP in the pool (McCarthy) if he's still there - and then pick up the best available midfielders to bolster our rotations.

As has been mentioned ad nauseum - this is a shallow draft for KPP, therefore take the best you can early on and then load up on midfielders at the later stages.

Pick #13 - McCarthy
Pick #39 - Bourke/Holman
Pick #51 - Cavarra/Jansen etc

Or ... if we adopt the "take the best available" approach:

Pick #13 - Freeman/Salem/Crouch/Lennon (in no particular order)
Pick #39 - Bourke/Holman/Apeness
Pick #51 - Thorp/Conlon

Either way, I'll happily back the recruiting team in.

 

[worsfold]

I have little doubt Pies will take Aish if he is there at 6. I would be stoked with that.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-11-11/lennon-looms-as-a-steal
Matt Scharenberg, Marcus Bontempelli, Nathan Freeman and Christian Salem are believed to be on Collingwood's draft radar with their two selections (six and 10).

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/afl/19753255/pies-and-lions-fight-for-raw-mccarthy/

Looks like Collingwood are going tall at 6????

 

[Swanhotels]

I've changed my mind on McCarthy - at first I was hell-bent on us getting a midfielder, but now I'm not so sure given all of his press and what he can offer to us.

I think we should take the second best available KPP in the pool (McCarthy) if he's still there - and then pick up the best available midfielders to bolster our rotations.

As has been mentioned ad nauseum - this is a shallow draft for KPP, therefore take the best you can early on and then load up on midfielders at the later stages.

Pick #13 - McCarthy
Pick #39 - Bourke/Holman
Pick #51 - Cavarra/Jansen etc

Or ... if we adopt the "take the best available" approach:

Pick #13 - Freeman/Salem/Crouch/Lennon (in no particular order)
Pick #39 - Bourke/Holman/Apeness
Pick #51 - Thorp/Conlon

Either way, I'll happily back the recruiting team in.

Do you think that the draft is shallow in general or just in KPP? I keep hearing its shallow in general but I see heaps of really promising midfield options available.

 

[captainMyCaptain]

Ahh right I see. Id love for McCarthey to slip to the Swans even though we a have a glutton of forwards. He will probably end up at the Blues I reckon. Lewis Taylor needs to come on down to the Swans!

According to Callum Twomey Giants are closely looking at Taylor for our pick 14 but still a lot to play out until we hit draft night

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Do you think that the draft is shallow in general or just in KPP? I keep hearing its shallow in general but I see heaps of really promising midfield options available.

Carlton's Head Recruiter (Shane Rogers) claims that it isn't deep and after 30 it dries up a bit.

Re: KPP its pretty well known now that there is a lack of quality in this draft.

There has been much talk in the media about this year’s draft being an “even” one, but Carlton’s National Recruitment Manager Shane Rogers says he doesn't necessarily agree.

"The draft this year is no different to other years, except it's probably not as deep,” Rogers said.

"It means we're expecting the top 30 or so players to be of an equally high standard.

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2013-11-11/blues-ready-for-2013-national-draft

 

[eaglespremiers]

According to Callum Twomey Giants are closely looking at Taylor for our pick 14 but still a lot to play out until we hit draft night

Then you'd probably look elsewhere than Kelly at pick 2.
Possibly Boyd + Taylor + Aish/Billings would be more suitable.

 

[Swanhotels]

According to Callum Twomey Giants are closely looking at Taylor for our pick 14 but still a lot to play out until we hit draft night

Yeah of course. I really hope we get him but it doesnt really seem likely at this stage. I was hearing you guys were keen on Gardiner at 14? Who knows there is always going to be some sliders and risers on the night, We will prob end up with someone who was meant to go in the 4th round with our first pick ala Towers last year.

 

[captainMyCaptain]

Then you'd probably look elsewhere than Kelly at pick 2.
Possibly Boyd + Taylor + Aish/Billings would be more suitable.

Maybe pick 2 is more up for grabs then were been led to believe, so much still to play out

 

[TerryWallet]

Maybe pick 2 is more up for grabs then were been led to believe, so much still to play out

From here on in is where you start taking notice of Emma Quayle.

She gets the accurate mail.

 

[Tbone McGraw]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-11-11/lennon-looms-as-a-steal
Matt Scharenberg, Marcus Bontempelli, Nathan Freeman and Christian Salem are believed to be on Collingwood's draft radar with their two selections (six and 10).

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/afl/19753255/pies-and-lions-fight-for-raw-mccarthy/

Looks like Collingwood are going tall at 6????

To be honest, that article is pretty broad in that it just throws up names.

I am 90% sure if Aish is available at 6, pies snap him up. The club sees him as a future captain. That is how highly he is rated internally.

Bontempelli the other that is rated highly but it is believed bulldogs are getting more likely to take him. It is also believed kk is a lock to suns.

 

[worsfold]

To be honest, that article is pretty broad in that it just throws up names.

I am 90% sure if Aish is available at 6, pies snap him up. The club sees him as a future captain. That is how highly he is rated internally.

Bontempelli the other that is rated highly but it is believed bulldogs are getting more likely to take him. It is also believed kk is a lock to suns.

Mate, I am am amazed he is not going at pick 2 - and if he makes 6 that would wind me up more as it was our pick!!!!
Emma Quade today tweeted McCarthy in line for pick 6/7 and he and Bontempelli will structure the top 10.

 

[Lionmoe21]

does anyone think that Taylor, crouch or Dunstan will slide to pick 22 or 25

 

[Super Hans]

I think the reason that many people are worried about Crouch's potential is that they see him topping out as a Priddis-type.

I think Crouch's potential is up to a Michael Barlow type, just needs the fitness.

As you said, he is nothing like Swan.

 

[maverick001]

This is one thing I've noticed watching TAC cup level, quite a few of the inside midfielders are, to be frank, short people. At AFL level, Crouch would be a smallish midfielder, but at TAC cup level, he's actually closer to average/above average. What's more, at TAC cup level, there are a few inside mids with not great inside ability, which makes guys like Crouch stand out. In fact I'd argue that, at least at TAC cup level, while this draft isn't bad for smaller outside types, but it's not great for smaller inside types. Crouch is probably the best Victorian inside midfielder, but that's not saying much. So his performances are inflated by lack of competition, which will definitely change once he hits AFL.

But isn't this just the nature of stepping up from underage footy to AFL? i.e. every player faces the challenge of being able to perform against better opposition in the big league

 

[wilbur_15]

does anyone think that Taylor, crouch or Dunstan will slide to pick 22 or 25

If he slides to 21, I hope he slides no further.

 

[clipboardbinocs]

Marsh. Slider

 

[Richo83]

But isn't this just the nature of stepping up from underage footy to AFL? i.e. every player faces the challenge of being able to perform against better opposition in the big league

TAC cup wasn't great this year, it also helps that he has a game which works at junior level, but wont work nearly as well at senior level.

 

[Zach Package]

Jake Owen (i think that's his name) also underrated IMO.

190ish tall, athletic utility without a real position as of yet, so a bit like Marsh or Bontempelli (obviously not on that level), reckon he could be pretty special as another one of those bigger inside mids

 

[aussierulesrules]

is Billings a lock at 3?

I don't believe so. Hearing that we will 100% take Kelly if he is available, but that if Kelly is gone, who we take at pick 3 is still undecided. Think Aish, KK and Scharenberg are well in the mix.

 

[ShinjiOno]

Brett Anderson saying McCarthy looks a lock to Brisbane at 7.

 

[Shazzman]

Marsh. Slider

Slides to pick 31? Would be fantastic.

 

[Scham]

Marsh. Slider

Marsh won't slide, he'll go where most believe he should. He's just been overrated by a handful of Bigfooty posters is all.

 

[Lockyer24]

Brett Anderson saying McCarthy looks a lock to Brisbane at 7.

Good, don't want him to slide to Carlton.

 

[etsal1]

In today's herald sun, Jay & Sam have Bontempelli sliding to Carlton at 13.