Opinion 2013 preseason best 22

[Megaman123]

after reading the herald sun this morning, i am confused at why geelong are not going after Clinton Young!
i think he's an absolute gun, would love to have him down at geelong. And nothing would please me more than stealing a hawthorn player.

he is injury prone but then again who isn't nowadays. would love to see geelong join the bidding for him.
yes he's soft, but with the likes of bartel, selwood, kelly and corey around the ball we could do with an outside player like young, its what we were missing this year without varcoe.

We missed that run with Varcoe being out this year. I think we look to replace this with..... Varcoe not being injured. Crazy idea. And if he gets injured, we discovered a quick, versatile, running long bombing left footer named Murdoch who looks like he will be better than a dirty Hawks player who gets hurt a fair bit, and fell over in a goal square one time.

 

[TheMenzelShow]

We missed that run with Varcoe being out this year. I think we look to replace this with..... Varcoe not being injured. Crazy idea. And if he gets injured, we discovered a quick, versatile, running long bombing left footer named Murdoch who looks like he will be better than a dirty Hawks player who gets hurt a fair bit, and fell over in a goal square one time.

cant hurt having both

 

[David the Cat]

Young is Hawthorn through and through. Not even on our radar I wouldnt think.

Murdoch will end up better than Young...bookmark it!

 

[DanA]

Apparently Bartel will continue to be used as a swing man and Corey/Kelly could see reduced time in the middle

 

[BUSTER29]

Apparently Bartel will continue to be used as a swing man and Corey/Kelly could see reduced time in the middle

Where did you hear that ?

 

[PowerOfThePussy]

http://tinyurl.com/9cjbwke

Jimmy to continue the utility role.

 

[Jazz71286]

It's essential if we want to rebuild/refresh without bottoming out. The young brigade need to take the reins while our seasoned vets are still playing. Otherwise we will end up like Hawthorn in 2 or 3 years time when Mitchell, Burgoyne, Lewis, Hodge and Sewell all vacate.

Having Bundy, Duncan and Caddy (and the others) play significant midfield minutes while at the same time being able to play Bartel, Kelly and Corey is important. It allows for on-field tutoring and fast tracks their development.

 

[Aussiemac82]

An elite team needs to be built on a position matrix that is flexible.

You should be able to do the persons job above, below ,and beside you.

I think Balme and Scotty have had this plan in place for a while and it is this principal that will help to prevent us from dropping to far in the ladder.

This is where the VFL team has it's most benefits. Allows us to teach the youngsters without jeopardising AFL team.

It also helps the seniors get more out of their bodies and mentally refresh them.

Is a great thing and I am all for having a team of the best utility players in the comp.

 

[David the Cat]

It's essential if we want to rebuild/refresh without bottoming out. The young brigade need to take the reins while our seasoned vets are still playing. Otherwise we will end up like Hawthorn in 2 or 3 years time when Mitchell, Burgoyne, Lewis, Hodge and Sewell all vacate.

Having Bundy, Duncan and Caddy (and the others) play significant midfield minutes while at the same time being able to play Bartel, Kelly and Corey is important. It allows for on-field tutoring and fast tracks their development.

If you read the article, Caddy wasnt mentioned. Its Murdoch, Duncan, THunt and Christensen being primed for mid-field roles along with our experienced guns.

I suspect Caddy will be given plenty of time ( as he should be )...

 

[DanA]

Outside players were an issue last year but I don't see that being the case this year with Motlop, Murdoch & Smedts a year older and Varcoe returning. Actually I think we're pretty well stocked now.

 

[Pie with sauce]

B: Kelly - Lonergan - Rivers

HB: Enright - Taylor - Mackie

C: Varcoe - Christensen - Johnson

HF: Motlop - J Pod - Caddy

F: Bartel - Hawkins - Menzel

RUCKS: H Mac - Selwood - Duncan

BENCH: Chapman - Vardy - Smedts / Kersten, Guthrie, Murdoch, West

 

[FredLeDeux]

B: Kelly - Lonergan - Rivers

HB: Enright - Taylor - Mackie

C: Varcoe - Christensen - Johnson

HF: Motlop - J Pod - Caddy

F: Bartel - Hawkins - Menzel

RUCKS: H Mac - Selwood - Duncan

BENCH: Chapman - Vardy - Smedts / Kersten, Guthrie, Murdoch, West

Pretty sure a couple of Hunts will be in there somewhere.

 

[year of the cat]

Pretty sure a couple of Hunts will be in there somewhere.

I'm sure there are a couple of "hunts" in there already! (someone had to say it ).

 

[FredLeDeux]

I'm sure there are a couple of "hunts" in there already! (someone had to say it ).

Very proud of myself for initially resisting the temptation.

 

[Belisarius]

Good fun trying to create a 2013 team and look at what others think.

Of course we have no idea re what long term injuries will be - it is a very difficult task. So much potential coming thru.

However to start the season I think you will find the two Hunts being selected. Who knows late in the season whether they will be there ?

It is great we have such depth - the only downside about our depth is so much of it is unproven or lacking in senior game time.

I will watch with interest as the season progresses who is getting game time form the youngsters, and of those, who is performing.

I suspect Smedts and Guthrie are favourites of the match committee - so I expect they will get fair amount of senior game time - along with Motlop. It also seems Vardy will be used quite often and you would think Caddy will get a fair amount of AFL time - so those 5 should be included in the best 26 starting the season.

If we do indeed get HMac and Rivers then you would have to add these two the best 28.

Whether Kersten, Brown, McCarthy, Cowan, Hyphen, Schroder, Simpson, Stringer and Walker (rookie so harder to fit him in) get game time is hard to say. GFC will want to test these guys out so they will probably get at least 2-5 senior games over the season.

But wow - how hard it will be to pick who will be playing next season - as Geelong will want to make sure they have given time to all these guys.

I personally think the Hyphen will get senior game time - Simpson too. As both seem to be ready to play seniors. I like the look of Kersten but where does he fit in ?

I can see us playing 32 + players next season in the seniors - and to some degree this will hurt our H&A performances as it will make it more difficult to get the team to gel. But it will incredibly interesting to see what unfolds.

I know a few who reckon McCarthy with his leg speed is a goer - and I do not mind Schroder.

Then to watch Varcoe and Menzel come back and play senior footy could be a real treat.

Imagine just in one game - say against the Doggies or Melbourne or the Suns we select THunt, Varcoe, Smedts, Motlop, Murdoch and McCarthy ? Real leg speed to break the lines. And it is quite possible that all will be players and feature in the 2014 team.

I think Geelong is selecting players who can play multiple positions, have more leg speed and can kick.

I am excited about what we may see next season - even if we may not peform as well if we had less rotations and played our best side each week.

In two years we could have an excellent running side, a quite physically developed side, a good backline, a very good midfield and a gun forward line. And still have depth.

 

[AlwaysOnTheBall]

B: J.Hunt Lonergan Enright
HB: Mackie Taylor T.Hunt
C: Bartel Duncan Varcoe
HF: S.Johnson Vardy Christenson
F: Menzel Hawkins Chapman

R: West, Selwood, Kelly

I/C: Motlop, Murdoch, Smedts, Corey

Emergencies selected depending on opposition: Stokes, Caddy, Guthrie, Stringer, Walker, Pods, Horlin-Smith

 

[FredLeDeux]

B: J.Hunt Lonergan Enright
HB: Mackie Taylor T.Hunt
C: Bartel Duncan Varcoe
HF: S.Johnson Vardy Christenson
F: Menzel Hawkins Chapman

R: West, Selwood, Kelly

I/C: Motlop, Murdoch, Smedts, Corey

Emergencies selected depending on opposition: Stokes, Caddy, Guthrie, Stringer, Walker, Pods, Horlin-Smith

No Pods?
Pretty sure he'll get a start. After that it'll be up to him.
And probably ditto Stokes.

 

[willie_bee21]

Minus injuries...

B: J Hunt T Lonergan C Enright
HB: A Mackie H Taylor T Varcoe
C: T Hunt J Selwood Bartel
HF: Christensen Pods (though I want Vardy to be first choice... think Pods will be given the nod of the head) Johnson
FF: Motlop Hawkins Menzel
Ruck: McIntosh/West Duncan Kelly

Int: Caddy Vardy (2nd ruckman) Smedts Chapman

Emergency: Stokes Horlin-Smith Corey Murdoch

Very difficult task. I've left out Stokes and Corey and I feel horrible for it. Murdoch should be first team but may have to wait... think we will see a similar situation to Milburn and Mooney in 2011 and Wojo in 2012 where Corey and Chappy are slowly nursed out of the best team but play important roles in the 25. Then you have the depth of blokes like Stringer, Guthrie, Brown, Gillies, McCarthy and the forgotten man, Cowan! The big one for me is the Pods/West/Vardy debate. Do we give Pods another chance despite his injury interrupted/poor season last year? I believe Vardy will be pivotal to our forward structure over the next 10 years but not sure if his body can stand a full season quite yet. And West will also present questions with the imminent arrival of H-Mac (I'm backing it in).

 

[Seethruskin]

Really tight for spots now that Hmac and Rivers have joined.

B: Enright, Taylor, Rivers
HB: Guthrie, Lonergan, Mackie
C: Duncan, Christensen, Bartel
HF: Varcoe, Vardy, Johnson
F: Chapman, Hawkins, Menzel
R: McIntosh, Selwood, Kelly

I/C + Emerg + Other chances: Caddy, T.Hunt, Pods, West, J.Hunt, Smedts, Stokes, Corey, GHS, Stringer, Murdoch, Motlop, Kersten, Brown, + pick 15.

Obviously Pods could easily line up at CHF instead of Vardy. I'd also say West and T.Hunt are almost certain to play from that long list of possibilities, due to their second ruck and tagging roles respectively. Other than that I really don't know. It's really tough trying to work out what would be best for 2013 (and the future).

Pretty good problem to have though.

 

[Boxhead_31]

Really tight for spots now that Hmac and Rivers have joined.

B: Enright, Taylor, Rivers
HB: Guthrie, Lonergan, Mackie
C: Duncan, Christensen, Varcoe
HF: Bartel, Vardy, Johnson
F: Chapman, Hawkins, Menzel
R: McIntosh, Selwood, Kelly

I/C + Emerg + Other chances: Caddy, T.Hunt, Pods, West, J.Hunt, Smedts, Stokes, Corey, GHS, Stringer, Murdoch, Motlop, Kersten, Brown, + pick 15.

Obviously Pods could easily line up at CHF instead of Vardy. I'd also say West and T.Hunt are almost certain to play from that long list of possibilities, due to their second ruck and tagging roles respectively. Other than that I really don't know. It's really tough trying to work out what would be best for 2013 (and the future).

Pretty good problem to have though.

I like it
Only change I would personally make would be to swap Bartel with Varcoe.
Let Trav use his pace on the wing and let Jimmy have the option to take his player deep and beat him in the air

 

[FredLeDeux]

I like it
Only change I would personally make would be to swap Bartel with Varcoe.
Let Trav use his pace on the wing and let Jimmy have the option to take his player deep and beat him in the air

I like it too.
All we have to do to make it work is get the AFL to agree to a 15-man I/C.

 

[DanA]

I now have it:

FB: Rivers Lonergan Hunt
HB: Enright Taylor Mackie
C: Duncan Bartel Varcoe
HF: Johnson Pods Smedts
FF Menzel Hawkins Chapman
RR: McIntosh Selwood Kelly
I/C: Caddy Christenson Vardy Sub: Corey

Guthrie, Murdoch, T-Hunt Horlin-Smith, Stringer, Schroder, McCarthy Stokes, Motlop,West Kersten, Walker

Black are players I think are a locks, colors representing vunerable postions, the guys fighting for the same position in the same color. There are a few that could fight for more than one position though. For instance Murdoch on the wing or backline.

The player on the feild are my opinion for best in round one (if all fit) but I could see any of the colored players fighting there way in the starting line up perhaps McCarthy, Kersten and Walker the only real long shots. We could also opt to go with one less tall in the starting line up (one of the light blue out) in favour of just about any of them.

 

[FredLeDeux]

I now have it:

FB: Rivers Lonergan Hunt
HB: Enright Taylor Mackie
C: Duncan Bartel Varcoe
HF: Johnson Pods Smedts
FF Menzel Hawkins Chapman
RR: McIntosh Selwood Kelly
I/C: Caddy Christenson Vardy Sub: Corey

Guthrie, Murdoch, T-Hunt Horlin-Smith, Stringer, Schroder, McCarthy Stokes, Motlop,West Kersten, Walker

Black are players I think are a locks, colors representing vunerable postions, the guys fighting for the same position in the same color. There are a few that could fight for more than one position though. For instance Murdoch on the wing or backline.

The player on the feild are my opinion for best in round one (if all fit) but I could see any of the colored players fighting there way in the starting line up perhaps McCarthy, Kersten and Walker the only real long shots. We could also opt to go with one less tall in the starting line up (one of the light blue out) in favour of just about any of them.

Who do you see as a full-on tagger in Rd 1, if not T-Hunt?
Not arguing, just asking.

 

[David the Cat]

ITs tough all right. The MC have their work cut out for them.

Got to say Dan, that given he gets back to 100%, Menzel's name should be black. The kids a star!

 

[geelong_crazy26]

i caddy rivers mcintosh daniel menzel nathan vardy + troy menzel/ jake stringer

anyone else getting excited about 2013! my table is lifting