Mega Thread 2013: Trade Hypotheticals

[Sydswans0512]

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Your 1st rounder will probably be between 14 - 18, would you play that for Yarran? 18-22 would probably seem fair price to pay for him imo

Yes I would be. we need another rebounding defender him and Jetta together would be hard to contain

 

[Dale4captain]

Yes I would be. we need another rebounding defender him and Jetta together would be hard to contain

It wouldn't be very defensive, though. Not sure the Swans would want such an unaccountable backline? Might mean that Yarran is played almost permanently on a wing or forward.

 

[the_slurpee_man]

It wouldn't be very defensive, though. Not sure the Swans would want such an unaccountable backline? Might mean that Yarran is played almost permanently on a wing or forward.

Very accurate comment! wouldn't want him.. attitude like a little pussy! If he cant make it in that carlton team good luck getting in the swans line up especially when all our players come back from injury..

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Would Kreuzer leave after turning down a huge offer previously? Can GWS offer that same coin again? Yarran is a WA boy and has good mates at Carlton. I just don't know if they would accept. We'd lose something in the ruck but Hampson is the one I would keep and play as first ruck if Kreuzer went. Mick doesn't usually rate ruckmen so you never know what he is thinking.

 

[swansfan51]

• Jaeger O'Meara from the Suns (would trade anything for him... except Kennedy, Naitanui, Darling, LeCras or Masten or Selwood)

This is the dumbest thing I have ever read.

David Swallow from the Suns (Wouldn't trade anything for him)

Wait, no, this is.

 

[Baird]

What are Bailey and Gumbleton worth? I would of thought a first rounder is a bit too much for both

 

[HBF]

So if GWS said they'd give you the #1 pick for Kreuzer alone, would you say no?

No because we'd be paying overs for it.

 

[Sydswans0512]

It wouldn't be very defensive, though. Not sure the Swans would want such an unaccountable backline? Might mean that Yarran is played almost permanently on a wing or forward.

We can teach him the defensive side of things

 

[LukeParkerno1]

What are Bailey and Gumbleton worth? I would of thought a first rounder is a bit too much for both

Gumbleton- your 2nd rounder would be about right, would not really see the point to it though for Collingwood with Cloke though. That said your 2nd rounder or an early 3rd rounder would be ABOUT his value.

Bailey would be your first rounder AT LEAST! Remember Cameron Wood cost pick 14, and Bailey is much better. That said Bailey won't leave, he would be looking to repay the club that stuck by him when he was injured.

 

[Baird]

Gumbleton- your 2nd rounder would be about right, would not really see the point to it though for Collingwood with Cloke though. That said your 2nd rounder or an early 3rd rounder would be ABOUT his value.

Bailey would be your first rounder AT LEAST! Remember Cameron Wood cost pick 14, and Bailey is much better. That said Bailey won't leave, he would be looking to repay the club that stuck by him when he was injured.

What about Bellchambers? He'll cost a first rounder but do you think he's likely to leave with all your quality Talls?

 

[LukeParkerno1]

What about Bellchambers? He'll cost a first rounder but do you think he's likely to leave with all your quality Talls?

For the right first rounder he might. Look it really depends how much game time he gets this season. As an Essendon fan I would be hesitant to trade as if Ryder goes down we are left with Daniher bearing the brunt of the ruck work and that isn't ideal. That said I am a beliver that no-one is 'un tradeable", so a player from Collingwood like Steele Sidebottom could be a pretty fair trade for both sides IF we were dealing with Collingwood. I would rather get Sidebottom than get a pick 15+ (you will finish top 5-6).

 

[Wickzki]

I'm not the biggest Yarran fan around but the comments in here about him by opposition supporters make me laugh.

We have a habit of overrating our own.... but you're massively underrating Yazz.

 

[JA27]

kruezer plus 1st rounder (currently pick 9) would be a huge decision for carlton but gws would take that

 

[Jell]

Kreuzer and pick 9ish is paying overs. For that i'd want Jeremy Cameron or pick 1 and a young mid.

The hardest part in all this isn't having the balls to make a deal, it's convincing a player who's under contract to go to GWS. That's the shit part of AFL. The players have all the control. Good players out of contract can hold their clubs to ransom, but a club who wants to make a trade can have their hands tied because a player mightn't want to go to that particular club.

 

[Tahunharp]

Wouldnt you think that considering that Scotty Watters has just publicly came out and declared that they need KDP, That the likely of Luke Thompson will highly likely get traded for a 2nd rounder? Or some one of that stature?

 

[HBF]

kruezer plus 1st rounder (currently pick 9) would be a huge decision for carlton but gws would take that

Of course they'd take it.
Carlton are paying way too much for their No.1 selection.
Even Kreuzer on his own would be paying overs IMO.

Bit of a non-issue anyway, Kreuzer is contracted and I really can't see Carlton entertaining the idea of trading away Kreuzer.

 

[Baird]

Wouldnt you think that considering that Scotty Watters has just publicly came out and declared that they need KDP, That the likely of Luke Thompson will highly likely get traded for a 2nd rounder? Or some one of that stature?

Probably. I doubt they'll trade their first rounder seeing as they need a gun midfielder

 

[Austin_McCrabbs]

Wouldnt you think that considering that Scotty Watters has just publicly came out and declared that they need KDP, That the likely of Luke Thompson will highly likely get traded for a 2nd rounder? Or some one of that stature?

You sure he isn't 1st round material?

 

[Silvagnis]

Very accurate comment! wouldn't want him.. attitude like a little pussy! If he cant make it in that carlton team good luck getting in the swans line up especially when all our players come back from injury..

You make it sound like Jetta is anything but soft.

Even Kreuzer on his own would be paying overs IMO.

Sure we'd entertain a straight swap, but the AFL is truly a cold business if you're giving up a person like Kreuzer. He already said no to GWS. Don't like the idea that we trade a young player for anyone bar a superstar. We didn't even trade pick one for Judd.

Is Boyd going to take time like Kreuzer, Day, Hawkins, Roughead, Henderson, J.Riewoldt, Kennedy and other talls?

Boyd won't necessarily be at his peak and get us a flag before GC and GWS go into overdrive.

Against the idea of giving GC and GWS even more elite first round talent.

 

[Richter]

What about Kreuzer, Yarran, #9 for Taylor Adams and #1 in a megatrade?

 

[Dale4captain]

What about Kreuzer, Yarran, #9 for Taylor Adams and #1 in a megatrade?

Blues are getting screwed over there. More realistically would be Kreuzer and #9 for Adams and #1. Kreuzer isn't quite worth pick #1 and Adams isn't quite worth pick #9 so it balances it out. GWS are still probably being a little disadvantaged in that trade, but they have said that they'll trade pick one for a good ruckman, and Kreuzer is that, so they have to bend.

 

[Pykie]

Of course they'd take it.
Carlton are paying way too much for their No.1 selection.
Even Kreuzer on his own would be paying overs IMO.

Bit of a non-issue anyway, Kreuzer is contracted and I really can't see Carlton entertaining the idea of trading away Kreuzer.

Not imo.

Kruezer with what he's shown to date isn't worth the #1 pick imo, especially with some serious injuries behind him.

I'd be wanting an AA ruck at his age for that pick, NN is worth the #1 pick and more.

Kruezer, no.

 

[Sydswans0512]

Wouldnt you think that considering that Scotty Watters has just publicly came out and declared that they need KDP, That the likely of Luke Thompson will highly likely get traded for a 2nd rounder? Or some one of that stature?

Thompson holds no value 3rd rounder.

 

[HBF]

Not imo.

Kruezer with what he's shown to date isn't worth the #1 pick imo, especially with some serious injuries behind him.

I'd be wanting an AA ruck at his age for that pick, NN is worth the #1 pick and more.

Kruezer, no.

Still wouldn't trade our best ruckman for an unproved player, even for one who has the wraps on him like Boyd.
Pretty much echo the sentiments of Robinson Kreuzer - we really don't know how long it will take for Boyd to play good consistent senior footy.

 

[Pykie]

Still wouldn't trade our best ruckman for an unproved player, even for one who has the wraps on him like Boyd.
Pretty much echo the sentiments of Robinson Kreuzer - we really don't know how long it will take for Boyd to play good consistent senior footy.

Yeah, well, I honestly think there's snowflakes chance that GWS would accept just Kruezer as the trade anyway.

Kruezer's output atm is nothing different to what Giles is currently giving them, you could make an argument that Giles is the better ruckman atm, they both get their 20 odd hitouts, low teens and kick goals.

Mumford will cost them 1/3 of the price, and he's probably a better ruckman as well.

This isn't a whack on Kruezer, he's been battered with injury, but if you're trading the #1 pick you wan't an absolute superstar, or very nearly the best player in his position in the league.

I think you'd scoff at Bomber supporters if they thought they'd get the #1 pick for Bellchambers, Kruezer is probably in the same spot.