Position 2014 SC Midfielders

[Monya Meow Meow]

Thanks guys!

 

[Kadog]

LOL at the judas jokes we (on the cats board) were all call little gazz judas few years back.

I'll LOL when the prick snaps his ankle. I ain't mad

 

[hoddo]

LOL at the judas jokes we (on the cats board) were all call little gazz judas few years back.

On the Melbourne board we just went with $cully

 

[cejaysantoni]

Rockliff, Jack, Sloane, Cotchin, Beams, Michie, Polec and Ellis are my starting mids. Thoughts?

Rockliff and definently Slone have there POD potential. I dont think many people will pick Slone, but he will have a stellar year. Cotchin Beams Polec Michie and Ellis awill all be popular picks and for all the right reasons! i really think Dale Thomas should be in every supercoach team? And if he goes down its all good because 95% of teams (including pretty much all the top teams) will have the same issue to deal with.

If Daisy goes bang and stays injury free all year anyone without him could really struggle? I have Ablett, Watso, cotchin, Beams, Thomas, Polec, Mitchie, and ellis starting with honeychurch and crouch on the bench. Hope this helps Gl

 

[Jars458]

Ablett Rockliff Beams Treloar Thomas Tyson Michie Polec Dunstan Lemmens. Always like to go for one break out player as risky as that is. Treloar is the man so far.

 

[Double the Fist]

Ablett Rockliff Beams Treloar Thomas Tyson Michie Polec Dunstan Lemmens. Always like to go for one break out player as risky as that is. Treloar is the man so far.

Im going ballsy horse, 3 permos, (of sorts) GAJ, Murphy, Beams, Michie, Tyson, Polec, Ellis and Dunstan and two rookies that are driving me nuts as I dunno who to pick.
Crouch, ummm cant remember who else on the bench, maybe Langdon (Pies)

 

[karaoke]

Im going ballsy horse, 3 permos, (of sorts) GAJ, Murphy, Beams, Michie, Tyson, Polec, Ellis and Dunstan and two rookies that are driving me nuts as I dunno who to pick.
Crouch, ummm cant remember who else on the bench, maybe Langdon (Pies)

What about Richie from 'Happy Days'?

 

[cejaysantoni]

Food for thought AFL prospectus suggests the best midfield is picked as follows.

3 Premiums
1 Underpriced premium eg. (Beams/Murphy)
1 Speculative mid priced eg. (Thomas/Savage/Stevens)
5 Rookies

This is the best recipe for success according to the prospectus (great book)

 

[karaoke]

Food for thought AFL prospectus suggests the best midfield is picked as follows.

3 Premiums
1 Underpriced premium eg. (Beams/Murphy)
1 Speculative mid priced eg. (Thomas/Savage/Stevens)
5 Rookies

This is the best recipe for success according to the prospectus (great book)

Generally, I would agree with these 'guidelines',

But this year with slim rookie pickings in def/fwd/ruc and tweaks to rookie pricing, structural flexibility is going to be key,

IMO

 

[cejaysantoni]

Generally, I would agree with these 'guidelines',

But this year with slim rookie pickings in def/fwd/ruc and tweaks to rookie pricing, structural flexibility is going to be key,

IMO

So more Multi Pos Players?

 

[karaoke]

So more Multi Pos Players?

Me - 2x premos, 2x Underpriced, 6x Rookies

wanting to use cash in def & fwd, due to low rookie numbers,

Seems most are thinking/talking of doing something similar,

 

[cejaysantoni]

Me - 2x premos, 2x Underpriced, 6x Rookies

wanting to use cash in def & fwd, due to low rookie numbers,

Seems most are thinking/talking of doing something similar,

i like

 

[Test Tickle]

Me - 2x premos, 2x Underpriced, 6x Rookies

wanting to use cash in def & fwd, due to low rookie numbers,

Seems most are thinking/talking of doing something similar,

Same for me
Backs i have McDonald D7 and Laidler D8 and Forwards Hogan F7 and Rohan F8.
Not very confident about Def Fwd rookies this year so i have sacrificed my mids and spread more money across Def and Fwd.
May well backfire on me but i'll give it a go anyway.

 

[KardiniaPark]

Same for me
Backs i have McDonald D7 and Laidler D8 and Forwards Hogan F7 and Rohan F8.
Not very confident about Def Fwd rookies this year so i have sacrificed my mids and spread more money across Def and Fwd.
May well backfire on me but i'll give it a go anyway.

I've taken the extra Prem mid and have Sutcliffe R5 and Caddy F5. I just can't get my head around only having 2 Prem and beams/murphy for some reason.

 

[Mattrox]

Me - 2x premos, 2x Underpriced, 6x Rookies

wanting to use cash in def & fwd, due to low rookie numbers,

Seems most are thinking/talking of doing something similar,

I still don't think you will make up points in the long term.

Beams is a 95 to 120ppg player (if fit)

Thomas is 85 to 115ppg

Give or take a standard deviation or two.

Then the likes of Caddy and Kennedy are great (or going to be) players but as younger players scoring consistecy is down. And you still have to upgrade them at some stage anyway.

Then by going a Hurn, Grimes, etc etc in the backs you are courting disaster. The more 85 to 90ppg players you have, the greater the chance that you get players in the lower range.

If you are good at optimization mathematics getting the right mix might be easier. But we are all making assumptions on scoring ability.

Rookies priced at 25 ppg scoring 60ppg will net you a greater profit than Atley priced at 73ppg but scoring 85ppg or Hurn priced at 87 and getting 95 ppg.

Don't get me wrong. Hurn is good value.

But Hurn, Hanley, Grimes then with mid-pricey players does become a real risk. What mix is right for backs and Fwds? And if you sacrifice 2 115ppg players in the mids to put extra 85ppg players in fwd/backs is it going to end well?

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[karaoke]

I still don't think you will make up points in the long term.

Beams is a 95 to 120ppg player (if fit)

Thomas is 85 to 115ppg

Give or take a standard deviation or two.

Then the likes of Caddy and Kennedy are great (or going to be) players but as younger players scoring consistecy is down. And you still have to upgrade them at some stage anyway.

Then by going a Hurn, Grimes, etc etc in the backs you are courting disaster. The more 85 to 90ppg players you have, the greater the chance that you get players in the lower range.

If you are good at optimization mathematics getting the right mix might be easier. But we are all making assumptions on scoring ability.

Rookies priced at 25 ppg scoring 60ppg will net you a greater profit than Atley priced at 73ppg but scoring 85ppg or Hurn priced at 87 and getting 95 ppg.

Don't get me wrong. Hurn is good value.

But Hurn, Hanley, Grimes then with mid-pricey players does become a real risk. What mix is right for backs and Fwds? And if you sacrifice 2 115ppg players in the mids to put extra 85ppg players in fwd/backs is it going to end well?

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Well, first of all, more than half of the players you mentioned, aren't in my team.

Theoretically, I should be able to buy 1 SC pt for ~$5,400 (magic number),

Provided I don't line my bench's with expensive players (ie > 135k), I should have $9 million ($10 mill less $1mill for bench players - 8x ~125k) to spend on the field to 'get' 1,666 SC points ($9mill/$5,400).

But by using rookie priced players (ie Lmac) and others who I will think will score more than what I think they are currently 'priced' at (ie DBeams), I should be able to 'get' 1 SC pt for less than $5,400 (eg $2,426 - Lmac, $4,545 - DBeams - IMO).

This should be able to generate more than standard 1,666 SC pts (not allowing for C choice).

So, why does it matter where they are situated on the field?

The midfield generally has the higher scoring players, but it also is where these higher scoring players cost more.

You need to fill your premium players around your rookies (ideally who will be playing rd 1 & have decent JS), not the other way round.

The reason we try to start with about half our players as the premiums we want, is that then makes our eventually completed side - half finished.

FWIW & IMO,

 

[hoddo]

Well, first of all, more than half of the players you mentioned, aren't in my team.

Theoretically, I should be able to buy 1 SC pt for ~$5,400 (magic number),

Provided I don't line my bench's with expensive players (ie > 135k), I should have $9 million ($10 mill less $1mill for bench players - 8x ~125k) to spend on the field to 'get' 1,666 SC points ($9mill/$5,400).

But by using rookie priced players (ie Lmac) and others who I will think will score more than what I think they are currently 'priced' at (ie DBeams), I should be able to 'get' 1 SC pt for less than $5,400 (eg $2,426 - Lmac, $4,545 - DBeams - IMO).

This should be able to generate more than standard 1,666 SC pts (not allowing for C choice).

So, why does it matter where they are situated on the field?

The midfield generally has the higher scoring players, but it also is where these higher scoring players cost more.

You need to fill your premium players around your rookies (ideally who will be playing rd 1 & have decent JS), not the other way round.

The reason we try to start with about half our players as the premiums we want, is that then makes our eventually completed side - half finished.

FWIW & IMO,

Post of the year! That's what it's all about. Having the right rookies for cash generation and then maximizing your score by having the senior players who cost the least per point earned while ensuring you start with enough "keepers" that you have enough trades to perfect your team.

 

[Jiska]

Well, first of all, more than half of the players you mentioned, aren't in my team.

Theoretically, I should be able to buy 1 SC pt for ~$5,400 (magic number),

Provided I don't line my bench's with expensive players (ie > 135k), I should have $9 million ($10 mill less $1mill for bench players - 8x ~125k) to spend on the field to 'get' 1,666 SC points ($9mill/$5,400).

But by using rookie priced players (ie Lmac) and others who I will think will score more than what I think they are currently 'priced' at (ie DBeams), I should be able to 'get' 1 SC pt for less than $5,400 (eg $2,426 - Lmac, $4,545 - DBeams - IMO).

This should be able to generate more than standard 1,666 SC pts (not allowing for C choice).

So, why does it matter where they are situated on the field?

The midfield generally has the higher scoring players, but it also is where these higher scoring players cost more.

You need to fill your premium players around your rookies (ideally who will be playing rd 1 & have decent JS), not the other way round.

The reason we try to start with about half our players as the premiums we want, is that then makes our eventually completed side - half finished.

FWIW & IMO,

You lost me at Well,

 

[Monya Meow Meow]

Food for thought AFL prospectus suggests the best midfield is picked as follows.

3 Premiums
1 Underpriced premium eg. (Beams/Murphy)
1 Speculative mid priced eg. (Thomas/Savage/Stevens)
5 Rookies

This is the best recipe for success according to the prospectus (great book)

Prospectus doesn't win you the grand prize, flexibility and the ability to adapt does.
Having said that, I do agree that it's a good general guideline to follow
I'll be altering it a bit for my team as follows:

3 premos
1 underpriced premo
6 rookies

 

[Mattrox]

Well, first of all, more than half of the players you mentioned, aren't in my team.

Theoretically, I should be able to buy 1 SC pt for ~$5,400 (magic number),

Provided I don't line my bench's with expensive players (ie > 135k), I should have $9 million ($10 mill less $1mill for bench players - 8x ~125k) to spend on the field to 'get' 1,666 SC points ($9mill/$5,400).

But by using rookie priced players (ie Lmac) and others who I will think will score more than what I think they are currently 'priced' at (ie DBeams), I should be able to 'get' 1 SC pt for less than $5,400 (eg $2,426 - Lmac, $4,545 - DBeams - IMO).

This should be able to generate more than standard 1,666 SC pts (not allowing for C choice).

So, why does it matter where they are situated on the field?

The midfield generally has the higher scoring players, but it also is where these higher scoring players cost more.

You need to fill your premium players around your rookies (ideally who will be playing rd 1 & have decent JS), not the other way round.

The reason we try to start with about half our players as the premiums we want, is that then makes our eventually completed side - half finished.

FWIW & IMO,

I wasn't commenting on your team but as a general concept. The more players you put in who are "value" the harder the "get what you pay for" will bite.

There will be players that we start off saying X is a keeper. But then even though they become D6 lets say, they end up not being premium and costing points.

I guess what I'm saying is that some sides will end up with 3 D6's

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[cejaysantoni]

Prospectus doesn't win you the grand prize, flexibility and the ability to adapt does.
Having said that, I do agree that it's a good general guideline to follow
I'll be altering it a bit for my team as follows:

3 premos
1 underpriced premo
6 rookies

I couldnt tell you because I havent won the grand prize before, but they would have a general idea because 3 past winners of SC assist in writing the fantasy section lol. But each to there own

 

[Monya Meow Meow]

I couldnt tell you because I havent won the grand prize before, but they would have a general idea because 3 past winners of SC assist in writing the fantasy section lol. But each to there own

Never knew that! Thanks for the input

 

[cejaysantoni]

Never knew that! Thanks for the input [
But you never know this year may be different because rookies are scrace in positions other than the midfield. I think reserch adapting luck and skill all come into it hey

 

[cejaysantoni]

Interested if anybody is going to choose Kobe Stevens? I have 2 teams secretly and i have him in my "risk taker team"

 

[Super Hans]

What does everyone think Nicky Dal will average this year?