2016 AFL Fixture Discussion

[JPetro83]

"Any time, any place, anyone" *vomit* Cringeworthy stuff right there.

 

[TrainRoo32]

I have no issues with who we double up, but it's the ****en start that's ****en ******ation

 

[Cleric]

I dont care about who we play, I care that the fixture is even from a commercial point of view. With the friday night games, the fact that we, PAP, WC and Freo only got 2, while Collingwood, Geelong, Richmond etc get more than double that, is unfair. Both Freo and WC got to the last four, and as such earned the right to play more. Until the AFL have a rule that rewards the position on the ladder at the end of the home and away with better timeslots then its always going to be unfair. I mean, they must keep up the ability for Vic clubs to maximise their coin.
Its time for two friday night games. One a Vic v Vic one and the other an interstate v interstate one.
And I wonder if the Port flogs who banged on about our easy draw last year are going to silent now with their easy draw.
If they dont finish top 4 with that draw they have under performed. I mean they have "two" final peices of the puzzle now.

 

[Cleric]

The hardest draw we have ever had in our history. The 2016 draw is absolutely brutal. We don't want to be 0-8 to start the season. 4-4 or better would be an A, 3-5 would be a B.

Finals?, Good luck guys. Give it your best in 2016. Looking forward to the challenges of 2016!

Its a hard one but with a new coach, no Danger and a heap of new players in, im seeing 2016 as our "getting our shit together" year, where we will be around the 7-10 range. Last year was a terrible one for our club and it might take a bit of time to regroup.
Heres hoping for a WB type year though.

 

[AmericanCrow]

For those still wringing their hands over how the schedule shook out. There is absolutely no way to know who got the most "unfair" run of games on October 30, 2015.

Last year at this time we heard that Port was damn near unbeatable, that Geelong would be easily in the eight and on and on and on.

I have said this before but apparently it bears repeating again. WHEN you play a team is far more important as a season unfolds than WHO you play. At the beginning of the season Hawthorn was struggling and Collingwood was running thru teams like they were mortal locks for the Grand Final. How did that play out? (oh by the way we dismantled the Pies when they were hot)

Quite frankly, if I am part of the staff...I love we get to play these teams straight away. If Pyke has the boys half as ready for the start of the season as Walshy had them, we will be in excellent shape coming out of the run of "tough" games.

As for the end of the season, 4 of the last 5 games are at home! Sorry, but if we can't use that to our advantage to solidify a Finals berth then we don't deserve one.

Let the season play out...don't get all worked up now about what it "might" look like in May.

Last I checked we are a good team--let's give the boys some credit and stop worrying about whether it is "unfair" we don't play Brisbane and Carlton 45 times.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

we'll be 12-0 at the bye!

Maybe start a thread with that as the title?

 

[Redleg Crow]

And Geelong will make finals. Facepalm.jpg

Probably, but clearly if they don't, Scott should be sacked.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Haven't had time to look at the draw properly. Tough from a football point of view by the sounds of it.

What's it like commercially? Time slots, big club opponents?

 

[FR0GGY]

Looks like the afl gave patty a heads up about the draw next year.

 

[conVINCEd]

Haven't had time to look at the draw properly. Tough from a football point of view by the sounds of it.

What's it like commercially? Time slots, big club opponents?

Commercially its freakin amazing.

2016 will be an awesome year to be a Crows fan; only five Sunday games, a heap of Saturday night games, a Thursday night match, two Friday nights (one home, the other v the Hawks at the G), Sydney and Geelong both at home so we can boo ourselves hoarse.

But you're DABM so I've probably missed your sarcasm about something

 

[Rotayjay]

It's a good challenge coming up next year, but questions still have to be asked. Why did the team that finished 6th get the hardest draw of all, and the team that finished 10th get the second-easiest draw of all? That flog in charge of the fixturing tried to make excuses for his commitee's extreme bias when he was on radio yesterday: 'oh, but the Crows get Anzac Round Friday night against Hawthorn ...'

The questions have to be asked, but ultimately we'll cop it and I think we'll do well.

 

[AmericanCrow]

It's a good challenge coming up next year, but questions still have to be asked. Why did the team that finished 6th get the hardest draw of all, and the team that finished 10th get the second-easiest draw of all? That flog in charge of the fixturing tried to make excuses for his commitee's extreme bias when he was on radio yesterday: 'oh, but the Crows get Anzac Round Friday night against Hawthorn ...'

The questions have to be asked, but ultimately we'll cop it and I think we'll do well.

As I would say in my line of work...you are assuming facts not in evidence. We have no earthly idea who got the toughest draw until the season plays out. Take a look at these "predictions" just days before the 2015 season. According to these guys playing Gold Coast was a pretty crappy draw. Apparently, the Western Bulldogs and West Coast Eagles are easy wins--since they aren't on anyone's top 8. Relax. We will do just fine.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-03-28/aflcomaus-season-predictions

 

[LiquidCrow]

It's a tough draw, but I hope it fires up the players.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Commercially its freakin amazing.

2016 will be an awesome year to be a Crows fan; only five Sunday games, a heap of Saturday night games, a Thursday night match, two Friday nights (one home, the other v the Hawks at the G), Sydney and Geelong both at home so we can boo ourselves hoarse.

But you're DABM so I've probably missed your sarcasm about something

No! Was genuinely asking.

Sounds great from that point of view.

 

[Vader]

No! Was genuinely asking.

Sounds great from that point of view.

It's a tough draw, perhaps tougher than our 6th ranking from 2015 could justify. We're the only club who doesn't get to play any of the bottom-6 teams (from 2015) twice. Allegedly we have the 2nd hardest draw of all clubs, with only North having a tougher run. Our start to the season is a horror show, with no bottom-6 sides until R9. Make it to R8 with a 4-4 record and we will be highly likely to make the finals. We expected a tougher draw, having finished in the top-6, but this is tougher than a top-6 finish normally justifies.

That said, aside from a few whingers, most of us accept that "to be the best you have to beat the best". The fixture is a challenge, but one we hope the club will meet front on.

Commercially, it's a fantastic draw. Good time slots, 7 games in Victoria (2 trips to WA, plus GC), 3 games at the MCG. It's a promoter's dream.

 

[FR0GGY]

Allegedly we have the 2nd hardest draw of all clubs, with only North having a tougher run.

Other way round, we have the hardest.

 

[Bacon8]

Other way round, we have the hardest.

Depends on who you listen to.

www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-fixture-2016-geelong-given-dream-draw/news-story/f35b59e45a4d4ac7d5adb1e78da7d85a

1 North Melbourne +1302
Play twice: Adelaide, Hawthorn, St Kilda, Sydney, Western Bulldogs

2 Adelaide +1038
Play twice: Fremantle, Geelong, North Melbourne, Port Adelaide, West Coast

3 Richmond +660
Play twice: Collingwood, Essendon, Hawthorn, Port Adelaide, Sydney

4 Melbourne +545
Play twice: Collingwood, Gold Coast, Hawthorn, Port Adelaide, St Kilda

 

[Rotayjay]

As I would say in my line of work...you are assuming facts not in evidence. We have no earthly idea who got the toughest draw until the season plays out. Take a look at these "predictions" just days before the 2015 season. According to these guys playing Gold Coast was a pretty crappy draw. Apparently, the Western Bulldogs and West Coast Eagles are easy wins--since they aren't on anyone's top 8. Relax. We will do just fine.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-03-28/aflcomaus-season-predictions

The 'hardest draw' notion comes from the number of games our future opponents managed to win in 2015. Though most teams tend not to move dramatically around the ladder from year to year, the statistic is indeed reliant on an assumption around performances. Our 2016 opponents won more games between them than any other side's opponents. Hopefully some of them play worse next year, and that we are one of the big improvers.

 

[Justinpa1]

The 'hardest draw' notion comes from the number of games our future opponents managed to win in 2015. Though most teams tend not to move dramatically around the ladder from year to year, the statistic is indeed reliant on an assumption around performances. Our 2016 opponents won more games between them than any other side's opponents. Hopefully some of them play worse next year, and that we are one of the big improvers.

This is quite often a flawed argument - two examples of teams shooting up the ladder are from the 2015 Season -
West Coast - 9th to 2nd (were the form side going into the finals series - only slipped up in the GF)
Western Bulldogs - 14th to 6th - most people predicted them to finish in the bottom two - after last off seasons exodus of players.

There is normally at least one team that comes from the bottom half to rise and cause a bit of havoc.

 

[crowsontv]

We all know that major sporting corporations are corrupt. Our draw just reminds us of it once again. In the meantime the fans will go away and hope for the best.

 

[FR0GGY]

Depends on who you listen to.

www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-fixture-2016-geelong-given-dream-draw/news-story/f35b59e45a4d4ac7d5adb1e78da7d85a

1 North Melbourne +1302
Play twice: Adelaide, Hawthorn, St Kilda, Sydney, Western Bulldogs

2 Adelaide +1038
Play twice: Fremantle, Geelong, North Melbourne, Port Adelaide, West Coast

3 Richmond +660
Play twice: Collingwood, Essendon, Hawthorn, Port Adelaide, Sydney

4 Melbourne +545
Play twice: Collingwood, Gold Coast, Hawthorn, Port Adelaide, St Kilda

Yeah it's all subjective, we have the hardest double ups I believe.

 

[earlsta]

This draw is fantastic, I hope our team and management embrace it just like Fages said. 12 Saturday night games was it? Also a Friday & Thursday night game as well, that's very good commercially.
Let's be honest, next season will prepare us for our 2017,2018 assault, this season will make us.
We need to be tested against the best, also the teams we play twice are great. Port, North, Geelong I think will all slow down, Freo won't be as good either.

You can never pick who'll be good the year after anyway, there's no point complaining. You don't hear Hawthorn ever complain on who they play, need to become the best, hopefully this is a step in the right direction.

 

[AmericanCrow]

The 'hardest draw' notion comes from the number of games our future opponents managed to win in 2015. Though most teams tend not to move dramatically around the ladder from year to year, the statistic is indeed reliant on an assumption around performances. Our 2016 opponents won more games between them than any other side's opponents. Hopefully some of them play worse next year, and that we are one of the big improvers.

I know. I was just trying to say who knows how these teams will really be in 2016. Post probably came across harsher than intended.

 

[FR0GGY]

Only teams that aren't that good would worry abut the "toughness" of the fixture

 

[azza77]

Playing Freo twice will be a blessing in disguise IMO...