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[Budda 230]

There hasn't been much mention of McLachlan on here. But generally he's been the most talked about and most likely draftee of the cats VFL players.
Do people on here think he'll go too high for Geelong to take him?
Or just not rate him as high as others do?

I wouldn't take him at 24 but he could be a good pick at one of our other picks. I don't think he's ready to play afl next year. Certainly not in a team like Geelong. But with some development who knows.

He certainly has the most scope of the Cats VFL prospects. AFL standard stoppage attributes, clean and gets his hands high to release. Easy to miss his strengths & doesn't get the opportunity to build big numbers, therefore misses the fanfare from Geelong supporters. Low percentage midfield time considering output due to higher priority commitment of developing the listed players. Much better rookie option than say a Tom Atkins.

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[Rosso]

Just on the small forward issue, I agree that Gregson and Linc show that they are capable of playing at the level but I believe we need a true goal kicking small forward. That means more than 20 goals in a season too. Eddie snagged a lazy 75 this year and his defensive efforts were great as well.

Apart from Menz, Hawk & Mots, there's not too many multiple goal kicking threats.

Moons, Pods, SJ, Chappy, Stokes, N Ablett were all players that could and would kick multiple goals in a game in our greatest era.

More focus on goals please.

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[Pure_Ownage]

He certainly has the most scope of the Cats VFL prospects. AFL standard stoppage attributes, clean and gets his hands high to release. Easy to miss his strengths & doesn't get the opportunity to build big numbers, therefore misses the fanfare from Geelong supporters. Low percentage midfield time considering output due to higher priority commitment of developing the listed players. Much better rookie option than say a Tom Atkins.

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I agree mclachlan has a lot of afl attributes which will interest recruiters but he is pretty raw and he didnt test very well which will go against him. I reckon he wont get picked but i wouldnt be against us rookieing him. I do like atkins and i think he is underrated due to size, his work in congestion and skills are very good. I do think stewart is more plug and play than all the others though he is my preference.

 

[The rabbi]

Just on the small forward issue, I agree that Gregson and Linc show that they are capable of playing at the level but I believe we need a true goal kicking small forward. That means more than 20 goals in a season too. Eddie snagged a lazy 75 this year and his defensive efforts were great as well.

Apart from Menz, Hawk & Mots, there's not too many multiple goal kicking threats.

Moons, Pods, SJ, Chappy, Stokes, N Ablett were all players that could and would kick multiple goals in a game in our greatest era.

More focus on goals please.

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I think that part of the problem with our small forwards is that none of them get front and square of marking contests. No one seems to be able to judge where the crumbs will fall.

 

[Ricketz]

Just on the small forward issue, I agree that Gregson and Linc show that they are capable of playing at the level but I believe we need a true goal kicking small forward. That means more than 20 goals in a season too. Eddie snagged a lazy 75 this year and his defensive efforts were great as well.

Apart from Menz, Hawk & Mots, there's not too many multiple goal kicking threats.

Moons, Pods, SJ, Chappy, Stokes, N Ablett were all players that could and would kick multiple goals in a game in our greatest era.

More focus on goals please.

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You mean Betts snagged 65.

 

[Rosso]

You mean Betts snagged 65.

75 according to the AFL site (inc finals). Now that is an AFL calibre small forward. Carlton. What were you thinking????

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[Pure_Ownage]

75 according to the AFL site (inc finals). Now that is an AFL calibre small forward. Carlton. What were you thinking????

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Wanted daisy thomas lol.

 

[Budda 230]

I agree mclachlan has a lot of afl attributes which will interest recruiters but he is pretty raw and he didnt test very well which will go against him. I reckon he wont get picked but i wouldnt be against us rookieing him. I do like atkins and i think he is underrated due to size, his work in congestion and skills are very good. I do think stewart is more plug and play than all the others though he is my preference.

Yeah, disappointing he didn't test well. Apparently there is a reason for that, so will be interesting to see how the clubs view it all.

I've got reservations on Atkins. Very good VFL player, but some of his weaknesses could be major flaws at the next level. Reads a stoppage slightly late, which may explain the massive tackle numbers. Competitor though.

Agree with Tom Stewart though. He has transferable skills. You know what you are going to get there.



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[catswhiskers]

I agree mclachlan has a lot of afl attributes which will interest recruiters but he is pretty raw and he didnt test very well which will go against him. I reckon he wont get picked but i wouldnt be against us rookieing him. I do like atkins and i think he is underrated due to size, his work in congestion and skills are very good. I do think stewart is more plug and play than all the others though he is my preference.

He is exactly the right size and shape. There was nothing to get excited about with his kicking, pace, movement through congestion, marking, handball that I saw. But when played in the middle he could get his hands on the ball. He (and other mids ) were roving to Lucey mainly (and occasionally Clark or Vardy) so although Lucey improved, service was not very good -so that magnifies McLachlan's efforts somewhat. In one game he parked at the feet of Lucey for at least three repeat bounces and got his hands first on each one. Good effort. But the repeats happened because he didn't seem to be able to get that quick release. Was tackled each time. Although he was right in close I thought he might have got one out.

I compare him with Menegola who I watched closely in the first half of season. Menegola popped up all around the ground as well as in the middle. Looked good by hand and foot. Didn't mind a goal. Did OK in traffic (quicker hands). Marked the ball. But Mena had had much more experience at State league level before the season started.

A friend liked McLachlan and had a bit of mail about his background (can't remember what it was he liked about his mail). But it didn't change my opinion when I started watching McLachlan more closely.

A rookie position would be the best I could see for him -so I agree. That's just another opinion tho.

 

[Cezz The Catter]

Been doing a bit of reading into KPFs this draft, some really rich talent.

• English
• Kerr
• Battle
• Marshall
• Waterman
• Sproule

Who else am I missing?

Amazed by the depth of this draft, can we expect to draft 5?

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Been doing a bit of reading into KPFs this draft, some really rich talent.

• English
• Kerr
• Battle
• Marshall
• Waterman
• Sproule

Who else am I missing?

Amazed by the depth of this draft, can we expect to draft 5?

English is a ruck not kpf (marking not great) and will be gone by our first pick.

Marshall and kerr and battle might be gone too.

Sproule is worth a bid so too waterman although he is a third tall.

Brennan cox and maybe himmelberg if you think they can play both ends would be other kpf options. Tiziani or mitch mccarthy if you want a real speculative pick.

 

[Turbocat]

I agree mclachlan has a lot of afl attributes which will interest recruiters but he is pretty raw and he didnt test very well which will go against him. I reckon he wont get picked but i wouldnt be against us rookieing him. I do like atkins and i think he is underrated due to size, his work in congestion and skills are very good. I do think stewart is more plug and play than all the others though he is my preference.

Have you see the results for all our VFL guys who were tested? Did Campbell Floyd get tested?

 

[Stan The Caddy]

Just on the small forward issue, I agree that Gregson and Linc show that they are capable of playing at the level but I believe we need a true goal kicking small forward. That means more than 20 goals in a season too. Eddie snagged a lazy 75 this year and his defensive efforts were great as well.

Apart from Menz, Hawk & Mots, there's not too many multiple goal kicking threats.

Moons, Pods, SJ, Chappy, Stokes, N Ablett were all players that could and would kick multiple goals in a game in our greatest era.

More focus on goals please.

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I couldn't agree more. Whether it's tall or small we need to keep finding players that can be a goal scoring threat.

 

[Lana]

Have you see the results for all our VFL guys who were tested? Did Campbell Floyd get tested?

Mclachlan got a 13.3 on a beep test and a ran a 3.29 seconds 20 metre sprint time.

I'd say he'd be extremely unlikely to get drafted, it would have been better for him not to test.

None of our other guys tested.

 

[Stan The Caddy]

I think that part of the problem with our small forwards is that none of them get front and square of marking contests. No one seems to be able to judge where the crumbs will fall.

Perhaps that's a structural thing. Are they instructed to move too far up the ground, therefore limiting their ability to crumb at the feet of our tall forwards?

If they stay closer to goal it will mean that their opponent will have a better chance of impacting the contest in the air. This will limit players like Hawkins being able to get one on one contests which is something that he excels at.

You gain in one area but then lose in another.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

For those who are interested champion data have ranked the top 30 by statistical output. Obviously doesn't mean thats where the players will go as some players will be taken more on potential than others and this data set doesn't take into account how each player performed and interviewed at the draft combine, but an interesting read nonetheless.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...s/news-story/febca6c18551c62dbbd7950dfc02ece6

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Mclachlan got a 13.3 on a beep test and a ran a 3.29 seconds 20 metre sprint time.

I'd say he'd be extremely unlikely to get drafted, it would have been better for him not to test.

None of our other guys tested.

Remember that Stewart was invited to test though but didn't test due to injury (same situation with Luke Ryan and they are the two mature age players likely to get drafted earliest on draft night).

Agree on McLachlan.

 

[Stan The Caddy]

Remember that Stewart was invited to test though but didn't test due to injury (same situation with Luke Ryan and they are the two mature age players likely to get drafted earliest on draft night).

Agree on McLachlan.

Any chance of Luke Ryan slipping to 38?

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Any chance of Luke Ryan slipping to 38?

Very hard to judge. Getting a nat combine invite means he is rated but not testing due to injury makes it hard to rank him. Would say he might get to 38 but probably goes earlier in the 2nd round i think.

 

[gurty]

I am surprised everyone has us picking a tall with the first pick this is a draft deep in midfielders rather than talls . Wouldn't we hang on till next year where there are more talls with maybe taking speculative late pick on a ruck give basically every tall in our list is in our starting 22. Compared to this year where we had Clark, the irish guy, Vardy and the Rookie Ruck in reserve. Who are our next generation midfielders. There really none. You need about four midfielders for every tall . We need to fill that void first. My bet it they will go hard on midfielder/utility/ pacy players

 

[Two Planks]

None of our other guys tested.

Not officially, but i know some of the VFL players took part in a separate session at one of the private schools in Geelong in front of the clubs recruiting staff. Results not published.

 

[Turbocat]

Not officially, but i know some of the VFL players took part in a separate session at one of the private schools in Geelong in front of the clubs recruiting staff. Results not published.

Campbell Floyd ?

 

[Turbocat]

Mclachlan got a 13.3 on a beep test and a ran a 3.29 seconds 20 metre sprint time.

I'd say he'd be extremely unlikely to get drafted, it would have been better for him not to test.

None of our other guys tested.

Hardly jaw dropping .. sounds very VFL. My guess would be there would heaps of kids that could match that.

 

[Two Planks]

Campbell Floyd ?

Not sure. I know 2 players never to be named that attented, but dont know the rest.

 

[CatsDoItBetter]

For those who are interested champion data have ranked the top 30 by statistical output. Obviously doesn't mean thats where the players will go as some players will be taken more on potential than others and this data set doesn't take into account how each player performed and interviewed at the draft combine, but an interesting read nonetheless.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...s/news-story/febca6c18551c62dbbd7950dfc02ece6

Can someone post the text from this article?