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Freo can want a 2nd rounder for this year all they want but there would little chance we miss out on an academy kid to let them have one.
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Swallow hasn't played for near on 2 years.
Can't see us offering much more, Hansen would be a great fit at GC. They have the 2 keys, but a 3rd up intercept marker would be ideal.
Hansen & 2016 2nd rounder for D Swallow.
2016 1st Rounder, 2017 2nd Rounder, Aaron Black to Freo for Neale.
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Rocket has already stated he wants to stay and will not be traded even if he wanted to leave. Is contracted. Not against Hansen though as a third tall.
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Just as an aside why is Hansen struggling so much currently?
Swallow is contracted, and presuming North make final four, that second round pick is 33-36 + Lachie hansen, whom probably doesn't even qualify as steak knives; he can't get a game and he's not suitable for AFL level anymore. It's nothing really. First round pick is an absolute minimum I believe.
You'd end up with more points. Less chance of missing out on him.
Assuming the ladder doesn't flip on its head GWS finish near the top and Freo near the bottom:
Eg - keep your 2nd Rounder (approx Pick in the early 30s) = 585 points
OR - Grab Freos 2 Third rounders (approx mid 30s) 502 + 483 = 985 points
Given the discount, it's the equivalent in points value of trading your pick in the 30s for pick 13 (ish)
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It's difficult to know as the situation is pretty unique. Out of curiosity, what do you think GWS will get for him?So McCarthy for 2 3rd rounders?
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That's a bit harsh, a 3rd overall selection for a 1st overall selection. Hansen is a good player, he can also play forward. Reads the play well and has neat skills, I think you're underselling him. He is behind Tarrant & Thompson for key spots at North. Both of whom are very good defenders.
I'd say this is fair:
Hansen, 2016 1st round, 2016 2nd round
For Swallow and 2016 2nd round.
Hansen, pick 15-18, pick 32-36 for
Swallow and pick 25.
Might help you with points etc.
Win win for both parties, we over pay but good risk reward payoff if we can get his body right.
Sorry, you've misunderstood. You would get the compo pick Freo get for Mayne. Probably 3rd rounder linked to finishing position, and our 3rd Rounder. As it stands that would be first and second picks in the third round. I don't know what number that would be but I imagine mid 30s and worth about 500 points each (without the discount).
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So stop making us use our best picks.
Its easier if you just dont bid. For all off us.
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I don't think anyone really knows.
You could give us your first, we could take next years fourth...
There are far too many variables and none of us really know.
All I want from a GWS point of view is that we get the best deal possible for the club, and put our interests first.
Whatever that is, and if that happens, I'll be happy with that.
Sorry, what I mean was; if 2 Third Rounders is "Dreaming", what do you think GWS will get for him? I'm not trying to be belligerent, I'm genuinely interested on what you think GWS will get for him.
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Late first rounder, West Coasts will do.
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18 clubs x 2 = 36, plus a bunch of academy prospects this year going early rounds plus any f/s picks. The thrid round this year will start in the 40's easily.
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Even last year the 3rd round started at 39.
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Pass, would give our second but that's it.
Fair enough. Pick 40 and 41 are 412/429 points = 841 + 20% = 1009.2 = Pick 17
I'd say Pick 17 for McCarthy and Pick in the mid 30s would do it.
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17 (McCarthy) and 35 is nearly 1550 points and you want to give us with the discount included 1000 points back.
No.
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If all Freo will offer is a couple of rubbish mid round picks, GWS should just force him to sit out again. Offer something decent or he sits out, simple. Don't expect GWS to bend over with lube for a reaming! Freo's 2017 1st rounder is fair, with GWS giving a selection (maybe this year in the 2nd round back). So McCarthy + late 2nd 2016 for 2017 1st round. Bit unders from GWS but at least it is in the ballpark.
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I think you've misunderstood. 17 isn't McCarthy - it's the points earned from 2 3rd rounders with discount. The 17 wouldn't be going to Freo, it would be going to GWS.
Actually, that's what I've proposed. Points equivalent of 1st Rounder for McCarthy and late 2nd. The 'couple of rubbish mid round picks' actually translate into a 1st Rounder if GWS use them on a Academy kid... which they would.
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