2017 trade/draft thread

[Chris_6678]

Bulldogs pick 25 28 30

For West coast pick 13

No

I seriously hope we do not go down this path...

 

[DivideandMultiply]

That is a horrible list.
However, lets look at how many "A/B-grade" players have gone in the 2nd round:

2007:
Ward (19), Selwood (2/16: 12.5%)

2008:
Ballantyne (21), Zaharakis (23), Redden (25), D. Beams (29), Hannebery (30), Liam Shiels (34) (6/16: 37.5%)

2009:
Fyfe (20), Carlisle (24), Duncan (28), Gunston (29) (4/16: 25%)

2010:
Lycett (29), Howe (33), Parker (40), (3/17: 17%)

2011:
B. Hill (33), Newnes (37) (2/18: 11%)

2012:
NONE (worst draft ever) 0%

2013:
Impey (21), M Crouch (23), Z Merret (26), Taylor (28), Lobb (29), Nankervis (35) (6/18: 33%)

2014:
McLean (26), Miller (29), Blakely (34) (3/18: 16%)

So basically from 137 second round picks 30 have been a winners and very good players.

So that's about a 22% chance.

Ignoring 2015 and 2016 as too early to tell.
We have had 2 winners (Selwood and Lycett) from 10 picks. So 20% success, which is just below the average.

So while it's not great, the 2nd round is full of duds.

(this was a huge waste of time)

Edit: Actually 137 picks for 30 winners.
So 22% success rate

This is a terrible analysis. Neither Selwood nor Lycett fit the criteria of B plus grade player. Going by this metric we have a 0% strike rate.

If we broaden the scope to players who have contributed to the best 22 of a club, things change dramatically.

Like this is a completely shithouse distortion. Follow up post on it's way with numbers.

 

[wraglesweb]

No

I seriously hope we do not go down this path...

Could be for our future 1st round pick I'm all for it our list is slim need to rejuvenate !!

 

[06Premiers]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-10-17/done-deal-port-tough-nut-heads-to-the-eagles

Silly me for thinking news posted by the club is accurate. I should've realised the shoddy history.

Who is more reliable, Stocksy/Kate or Haggers?
Me thinks crumpet face.

 

[Lyyynnnchy]

Could be for our future 1st round pick I'm all for it our list is slim need to rejuvenate !!

Would definitely not donfuture 1st round. Highly likely that will be far lower than 13 next year!!!

 

[Xsess]

Now Vosso's got a full suite of draft picks to bring it on HOME!!

 

[The_Reaper]

Bulldogs pick 25 28 30

For West coast pick 13

We have a lot of good young players but we don't have anyone on track to be elite and this is our biggest issue in midfield. Shuey is our best and is short of AA level.

Pick 13 is no guarantee of picking up someone of that calibre but it is far more likely to than any pick in the late 20s.

 

[eagles rule]

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[Chris_6678]

At least the future looks abit better than 2013 when all we had to look foward to was Tunbridge and College as big bodied mids...

 

[Lolbert]

This is a terrible analysis. Neither Selwood nor Lycett fit the criteria of B plus grade player. Going by this metric we have a 0% strike rate.

If we broaden the scope to players who have contributed to the best 22 of a club, things change dramatically.

Like this is a completely shithouse distortion. Follow up post on it's way with numbers.

You're an angry man aren't you.

Why the obsession with our second round drafting, like there's some sort of systematic error with our drafting inbetween 18 and 36. Roll a dice 10 times, if you don't roll a 6 does that make you sht at rolling 6's?

I understand the overall criticism of our Recruiting and development but this focus on the second round is a bit bizarre.

 

[Boohemian]

This guy (Nixon) disturbs me for some reason.

Safe to say the guy has a couple of screws loose.

Found this interaction on his Twitter somewhat humourous though..

 

[wraglesweb]

Would definitely not donfuture 1st round. Highly likely that will be far lower than 13 next year!!!

I like this draft don't mind loading up this draft was some good solid professional football played in the u18's this year.......

 

[Galileo9]

Our ability to rotate players through the middle is going to be a lot better now Pridda has hung up the boots. I would imagine Ah Chee will feature heavily in the middle. Being named on a flank won't be the purgatory it has been for the last 5 years.

Yes, now that priddis has gone, we will turn into Geelong circa 2007. Oh and also hungry will be able to eat, wars will be stopped and peace on earth will reign for all eternity.

 

[new breed]

Yes, now that priddis has gone, we will turn into Geelong circa 2007. Oh and also hungry will be able to eat, wars will be stopped and peace on earth will reign for all eternity.

I think we will be more attacking through the midfield but could get monstered some days and might not be pretty to watch .
But you never know I think we can make the eight .

 

[Samikin]

Also says no chance of leaving because he's contracted, which is incorrect.

So Nixon's just guessing and/or making it up as he goes. Who'd have thought?

Don't they all do that Haha. Seems that's all the rage on twitter

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Don't they all do that Haha. Seems that's all the rage on twitter

Which is fine if they say that's what they're doing.

Too many of them pretending they've got inside knowledge when really they're guessing as much as we are.

 

[The_Reaper]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/adelai...ndon-hanging-on-a-thread-20171017-gz2tw3.html

Under the deal, the Bulldogs would give the Eagles pick 9, 25 and 30 in exchange for West Coast's pick 13 and a swap of future draft picks.

Rawlings is a genius

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

This is a terrible analysis. Neither Selwood nor Lycett fit the criteria of B plus grade player

Follow up post on it's way with numbers.

What a surprise - DivideandMultiply is going to follow up with numbers!

A check point - you may not like Scooter but I would say someone who was taken in the second round at pick 22 and went on to become a member of our leadership team and b&f winner a success and therefore a B plus grader. Arguably only a B grader but he probably spent too much time and energy being the sole Mr Niggle so on that basis he gets a plus.

 

[bzparkes]

Safe to say the guy has a couple of screws loose.

Found this interaction on his Twitter somewhat humourous though..

Would bang, even with the fake **** and possible dick.

 

[bzparkes]

Would bang, even with the fake **** and possible dick.

Not talking about Ricky btw.

 

[new breed]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/adelai...ndon-hanging-on-a-thread-20171017-gz2tw3.html



Rawlings is a genius

That would be wicked ..........IF true

 

[Bender_]

Not talking about Ricky btw.

His **** are 100% real.

 

[RookiePick]

Yes, now that priddis has gone, we will turn into Geelong circa 2007. Oh and also hungry will be able to eat, wars will be stopped and peace on earth will reign for all eternity.

Not with this type of smart mouth posting it won't



I am confident we are going to be a much more dynamic side going forward than we were this year. Naitanui back and priddis and mitchell out. A lot more players are going to have to win the footy to make up for Priddas absence. I agree with new breed - some days good midfields will collar us and it won't look pretty but that has been the case with pridda out there too.

It's a brave new world for us in 2018 but I think it will be exciting. Embrace change.

 

[RookiePick]

His **** are 100% real.

Pics?

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/adelai...ndon-hanging-on-a-thread-20171017-gz2tw3.html



Rawlings is a genius

Not sure how that trade would work unless the future pick we're giving up is our first rounder next year.