2017 trade hypothetical thread

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Pomsta said:
How about Gold Coast trade 2017 pick #24 and 2018 3rd rounder for Anthony Miles.
GC still have their first 3 picks plus an experienced ball accumulating inside midfielder. Richmond get early enough pick to assist with Naish points and another pick in next years "strong" draft.

Also think we may be able to get a 2018 3rd rounder from Carlton for Ben Lennon. Would be more suited to the slower methodical style of Carlton than the frenetic pace of the Tigers.
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Lennon is worth a swap of 4th round picks. Even then I would say no. If Lennon wasn't contracted, there would be a good chance he would be de-listed. Richmond would be happy to get his salary off their books.
Why would Carlton give a 3rd rounder (approx. pick 40) for a player that as shown very little. We have Silvagni who plays a similar role and there is no way you can carry 2 slow medium sized forwards in a team. Richmond doesn't have one of them in their team. If your a betting man then Lennon will be gone at the end of next year when his contract finishes.
 
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Carl said:
Lennon is worth a swap of 4th round picks. Even then I would say no. If Lennon wasn't contracted, there would be a good chance he would be de-listed. Richmond would be happy to get his salary off their books.
Why would Carlton give a 3rd rounder (approx. pick 40) for a player that as shown very little. We have Silvagni who plays a similar role and there is no way you can carry 2 slow medium sized forwards in a team. Richmond don't even one of them in their team. If your a betting man then Lennon will be gone at the end of next year when his contract finishes.
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Lemons out of contract this year.
 

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Darkyprotector said:
no one wants to play for you though
Youre the NEW BEARS
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You really seem to have a problem with the Suns. I don't know what it is, but I hope you can work through it.

Would give up pick 37 for Miles IMO. We have a bunch of picks early on, and unless we need it to bring Crossley in, I would be happy to use it for Miles.
 
Kelly and gws' 2018 third rounder for North's 2018 first rounder and 4.

Balic for north's current third rounder.
 
LukeParkerno1 said:
Balic is worth more than a 3rd
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A homesick, out of contract second year player who has 4 games under his belt is not worth more than a third. Maybe on potential he is, but he was the last pick of the second round originally and hasn't shown much to demonstrate he was worth more than that.
 
rogiebear93 said:
A homesick, out of contract second year player who has 4 games under his belt is not worth more than a third. Maybe on potential he is, but he was the last pick of the second round originally and hasn't shown much to demonstrate he was worth more than that.
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You're right he was no currency, could be a good cheap pick up for Hawthorn
 
rogiebear93 said:
A homesick, out of contract second year player who has 4 games under his belt is not worth more than a third. Maybe on potential he is, but he was the last pick of the second round originally and hasn't shown much to demonstrate he was worth more than that.
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Would be more than happy to pay a mid 2nd without even thinking twice.
 
Carl said:
Lennon is worth a swap of 4th round picks. Even then I would say no. If Lennon wasn't contracted, there would be a good chance he would be de-listed. Richmond would be happy to get his salary off their books.
Why would Carlton give a 3rd rounder (approx. pick 40) for a player that as shown very little. We have Silvagni who plays a similar role and there is no way you can carry 2 slow medium sized forwards in a team. Richmond doesn't have one of them in their team. If your a betting man then Lennon will be gone at the end of next year when his contract finishes.
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Lennon is just a sh1tter Tyrone Vickery..
 
rogiebear93 said:
A homesick, out of contract second year player who has 4 games under his belt is not worth more than a third. Maybe on potential he is, but he was the last pick of the second round originally and hasn't shown much to demonstrate he was worth more than that.
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Agree, its not like he was even a high draft pick.. He went mid 30s and his currency must have gone backwards significantly from then.
 

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Kangaroos4eva said:
Kelly and gws' 2018 third rounder for North's 2018 first rounder and 4.

Balic for north's current third rounder.
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I think that is not a bad deal for Kelly... but I would want it improved somewhat, such as North finding a way to include Puopolo in the deal. For example, exchanging picks with other clubs.

Kelly being rated so highly imo make me feel like the current crop of young players in the AFL is a bit meh........
 
Josh Schache and pick 12 to saints for picks 7 and 8?

Not sure the points system as id rather pick 18 instead of 12 but think giving back pick 12 is a touch fairer on saints side.
 
Richmond
Gain: Michael Close
Lose: Anthony Miles

Brisbane
Gain: Anthony Miles
Lose: Michael Close

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Adelaide
Gain: Brisbane 2018 Second Rd pick.
Lose: Charlie Cameron

Brisbane
Gain: Charlie Cameron
Lose: 2018 Second Rd pick.

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Close and Miles trade probably a win/win for both clubs. Close has potential, very good endurance and one of the mos professional players out. He's a year behind most after his knee reco. Miles stuck in the VFL due to not fitting in with Richmonds new game plan. Both players get more opportunity.

Cameron's an interesting one. Our picks are pretty tied up this year because of Ballenden and the fact Cameron isn't worth 19. Ideally we improve to a middle of the range club next year which makes it around pick 27.
 
cotter101 said:
Richmond
Gain: Michael Close
Lose: Anthony Miles

Brisbane
Gain: Anthony Miles
Lose: Michael Close

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Adelaide
Gain: Brisbane 2018 Second Rd pick.
Lose: Charlie Cameron

Brisbane
Gain: Charlie Cameron
Lose: 2018 Second Rd pick.

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Close and Miles trade probably a win/win for both clubs. Close has potential, very good endurance and one of the mos professional players out. He's a year behind most after his knee reco. Miles stuck in the VFL due to not fitting in with Richmonds new game plan. Both players get more opportunity.

Cameron's an interesting one. Our picks are pretty tied up this year because of Ballenden and the fact Cameron isn't worth 19. Ideally we improve to a middle of the range club next year which makes it around pick 27.
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I would do that deal. Rather take a risk on a 23 year old 195cm forward then a guy we probably wont play much in the AFL.
 
Thoughts on this? Was posted on our board - by a first time poster (ha ha).

Found it interesting reading though...

Betty_Blue76 said:
Proposal is:

1. Carlton trade Bryce Gibbs to Crows for the pick they get for Lever (must be below 12). Most likely Dees pick 10.

Why? - best we will get and the view is Bryce asking to leave again and coming back isn't good for the group. Also part of a wider deal. Problem is if Pies get Lever for pick 6 Crows won't want to give this up without something back. However, we believe Lever wants the Dees.

2. Carlton acquire Rockliff for 2 years at $2m with an option for a third year at $400k. Because the option is conditional the AFL bases compensation on a guaranteed two years - so $1m per year figure. This triggers band 1 compensation for the Lions so they get pick 2. Other suitors are offering Rockliff max $700k, which is not enough to trigger band 1.

3. Carlton trades pick 3, pick 10 (or thereabouts - Crows been told must be pick below 12) from Bryce Gibbs and our third round pick for pick 1, pick 18 and Schache. Lions may also be interested in a player such as Byrne to sweeten the deal.

Why do this trade - helps with Kelly (will explain below), plus gets Rockliff in for support and gets Schache at a discount. Schache is viewed as suffering from being away from family and the belief is he can become a 40+ goal a year FF in Victoria. Lions don't want Rayner but the Suns rate him so won't slip to us at 3. GWS want him and want pick 1 to make sure they get him. Lions value Dow more highly so going from pick 1 to 2 is fine by them. Effectively swapping Schache and 18 for pick 10 and 38. Lions rate the top 10 highly so believe they can add another good mid at 10 (plus have Ports pick - view is 3 good mids to add to the mix).

We will not get Lynch from Gold Coast next year. He will most likely sign with them depending on the new coach and how things look in June next year. Pies have tabled a $1.5m 5 year deal and his family are massive Pie fans but looks more likely to stay at GC. Will not play for Carlton forget it. So we see Schache as a hedge against McKay not coming on. The bank is at least one of those two will become a gun.

4. Carlton trade pick 1 and pick 18 for Kelly, Kennedy and a salary dump.

Why? GWS wants Rayner and will only let Kelly go if they are guaranteed Rayner. They value pick 1 very highly. Kelly wants us the only spanner is a large offer from Essendon, but very likely to knock this back. Our whole strategy hinges on Kelly going to us. We believe this is 75% likely. The salary dump is a huge issue for GWS and they need the cap relief.

NET RESULT -

Out: pick 3, Gibbs, pick 38

In: Kelly, Rockliff, Kennedy, Schache

The age composition of our mids is lowered with Kelly/Kennedy and Rockliff a similar age to Gibbs. Schache is valuable insurance for a KPF.

We don't have a pick this year until the fourth round but will take 3 picks at the end of the draft and get some delisted free agents. With the investment in the last two drafts and the desire to trade heavily into the 2018 draft with 2019 picks, we don't see this as a huge issue. There is also scope for the Suns to offer up 2nd/3rd round picks for players.

This is the desired blueprint for the Blues and what SOS believes is realistic. There are other options (Stringer for 2018 2nd but dogs likely to say no even if we take a salary dump) and embracing trading Gibbs plus some others for top 40 picks.
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Bic said:
Thoughts on this? Was posted on our board - by a first time poster (ha ha).

Found it interesting reading though...
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Starts okay then rapidly devolves into fantasy football. Why would Brisbane do their leg? They'll have no trouble getting offers from Schache a damn sight better than upgrading 18 to 10. 3 and 10 for 1 and 18 alone isn't far off an even swap. Meanwhile, what incentive do GWS have to offload Kelly and Kennedy on the cheap? A salary dump won't do it - trying to re-sign Kelly is the primary source of their squeeze, so him moving on solves it alone - and given Brisbane's lack of attachment to pick 1, on which this trade rests, there are a range of ways for them to get hold of it.
 
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