List Mgmt. 2018 Trade, Free Agency & Draft Thread MK 3 [JP✔️ JPII✔️ Hall✔️ BScott✔️ Tyson✔️ Clarke➡️ Preuss➡️]

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What’s that got to do with what I said? I’m well aware that we can retain players but the fact is we can’t get genuine A-graders over the line.

well being "well aware " we can retain players should mean you understand how hard it is to get players out of their original clubs IF their club wants them more than say a compensation pick will deliver.

How many A graders have change clubs over recent times? Are you also suggesting we're the only club that tried to get the players you mentioned across, we're not.
 
Our club is currently getting hammered on social media. Easy to dismiss as idiots taking cheap shots but mud sticks and negative media, social or otherwise, is not good for the Club.


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Who cares what is trending right now on social media? This will be forgotten in a couple of days. There will be something else for people to waste their idiot lives on by then.

If an official announcement had been made by our the club that the Gaffster was ours, then yeah, a bit of egg to be worn. But to my knowledge no-one in an official capacity has said anything like that.

And if it is true that the Eagles have had to front up with some more cash, then that will make it harder for them to get Tim Kelly. They might have to shed a better player/pick to Geelong or maybe Kelly will end up at Freo. Whatever is the case the Eagles will also be paying some sort of a price for retaining Gaff.
 

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So we have deals for Polec and Hall to get done, Clarke to go out. A couple of others on the go. Plus the big player mentioned that no one can name


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There is no one else.

We don’t have the currency to make any deals this year.

We’ll get Polec, Hall, maybe Finlayson and TT and that will be that.

I wouldn’t be holding onto hope for anymore big moves.
 
well being "well aware " we can retain players should mean you understand how hard it is to get players out of their original clubs IF their club wants them more than say a compensation pick will deliver.

How many A graders have change clubs over recent times? Are you also suggesting we're the only club that tried to get the players you mentioned across, we're not.

I understand how hard it is but other clubs are making it happen; Lynch, Dangerfield, Treloar ect are few examples.

Ofcourse I’m not saying we are the only ones to have tried and failed. But we are the only ones who are getting strung along with these big contracts only to fail at the final hurdle. The negative attention that comes with that isn’t good.
 

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There is no one else.

We don’t have the currency to make any deals this year.

We’ll get Polec, Hall, maybe Finlayson and TT and that will be that.

I wouldn’t be holding onto hope for anymore big moves.

I don’t know who either but it was mentioned in the same post as we weren’t getting Gaff so there is the tiniest of flickers there


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Eagles posters mentioned it would be a 2 year deal. If my maths are correct that would make him an unrestricted free agent at that time.

I'll just set a reminder in my phone to pick this up again then when he's homesick again
Yeah fly him over, bring him into the locker room. Lock the door behind him. 1 v 1 against Cunnington. Only one man leaves.

Confirmed now in the WA press

West Coast midfielder Andrew Gaff has rejected North Melbourne's lucrative contract offer and will remain with the Eagles.

Gaff, who missed the Eagles' premiership win through suspension, has flown to Melbourne and on Sunday told North Melbourne football chief Cameron Joyce he had decided to remain with West Coast.

https://www.watoday.com.au/sport/af...turning-down-north-offer-20181007-p5088y.html

That quick plane trip did have me puzzled. Amazing.

The man clearly has no integrity.
Joyce should have boxed him up.

How’s it going down there GG?

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There is no one else.

We don’t have the currency to make any deals this year.

We’ll get Polec, Hall, maybe Finlayson and TT and that will be that.

I wouldn’t be holding onto hope for anymore big moves.
Newman?

I'd be reasonably happy with that haul you just mentioned though.

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It's a good thing Polec has allegedly accepted to join us because he is the closest thing to a "big fish" in the right age bracket we have got in a long time. If he turned us down like Gaff has now than along with all the other rejections i.e Martin, Heeney etc it would have been a extremely bad look for the club.
 
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Won't worry Polec! Doesn't worry me

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I'm with you but supposedly we have an agreement with GWS and Kelly that he will come to North at the end of his current contract. Also supposedly Kelly is a "Man of his word" and won't entertain an offer this year. And supposedly we don't want to upset GWS as they've said they will deal with us for Kelly at the end of his contract next year. My take. We have people at our club who think they know how to negotiate but if you look at what has unfolded over the last few years they are only average at the caper. :stern look

Do you know that for sure? Are your sources impeccable?

If so then frankly I'm not in the least worried that the Gaffster is staying in Perth. Lets blend in the new arrivals this year and then let the tastiest piece of the cake take us to a flag.
 
Just on Joyce.
I don’t deny that he has done some amazing work in his time at the club.
It’s just unfortunate for him that he got burnt last year with Kelly and Dusty and learnt to change his approach this year.
Sadly even after luring Gubby in via his connection with Brad and putting them on the frontline, that didn’t work.

Is it a respect thing? A whose who thing?
Is he not well known or well liked?
Ben Buckley’s leadership will be judged on results and the club from Joyce to Brad to Heath all the way through to Polec and Mason Wood - look like fools.
Not by us or internally, but from the greater football community.

The large contracts and godfather offers don’t work. They just don’t.
This tactic shows that the promise of playing at Arden St means nothing and not even the millions in the world on top is enough.

I love the club for persisting and for effort and to keep trying to make us better, but not even being competitive on field in 2018 lured a big fish over.

Where this hurts us going forward is after Dusty and Gaff changed their minds last minute, any future free agents we go after can do this and not care about how it affects North.

That’s the perceived weakness that makes me displeased with the tactic.
The offer should be out there and if not accepted withing a reasonable time
then withdrawn.
 
Yeah fly him over, bring him into the locker room. Lock the door behind him. 1 v 1 against Cunnington. Only one man leaves.


Joyce should have boxed him up.



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Indeed Joyce should have boxed him up. Boxed him up and sent him back to Perth Gwyneth Paltrow style.

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