List Mgmt. 2019/20 Trade/Delist/Re-sign Predictions/Opinion (now with TRADE RADIO)

[BrissyCrow]

The fallout of that would have been Luko or Rankine would have been in Port colours as a result. Im guessing Rankine more so IMO. Glory be.

But that would have left Rozee for us to get. Swings and roundabouts

 

[BrissyCrow]

Maybe 4 and Jacobs for 6 and 40, which gets them ahead of our expected bid for Green.

I wouldn't do that. Give them pick 4 and they also put Green into their list. They get Jacobs. So we down grade from 4 to 6 and get pick 40 for Jacobs. No thanks I will keep pick 4 and take their pick 59 for Jacobs. If they want Pick 4 then they have to give us 6 plus Hatley plus 59 for Jacobs.

 

[BrissyCrow]

Keath in particular, I'd be very keen to move on. I'd like to see one of Butts/Himmelberg start being groomed to be a long term KPD, and really the easiest position to start that process is as an intercepting defender, as it is a very easy way for someone to get their feet wet. By that alone, paying Keath whatever money, at whatever contract would just inevitably end up being a bad call from us. Even if we were talking about pick 45-50 for Keath, I'd take it if all other trade options were exhausted (except resigning him).

Greenwood I'd be more inclined to keep, purely because tall midfielder/forward is valuable, we don't have an obvious replacement, and will probably need 2 seasons to develop one. I won't complain if he was traded, but I equally would support us offering an improved contract to keep him if we decide to go down that route.

I think that given the review and with the change in the coaching staff that exposing the youth to games will become part of our strategy. Having a player like Keath around wouldn't mean the youngsters dont get exposure

 

[StonesThrow]

I think part of the decision to let Keath & Greenwood go was that we were comfortable with what they would return in trade

If the trade bounty is shizen, I wonder if that impacts our thinking on whether to offer the extra year

I reckon it might.

I agree. I was only open to trading both (throughout the year) cos I thought we could actually get some decent return and given we needed a refresh.

If they're not going to get us that, we're essentially letting two pretty decent players (with development left in them) go for nothing. They will only make other teams better.

Now that CEY is gone I think we can afford to keep Greenwood. Keath can also play a role given our lack of young kpd stocks coming through. Letting Hartigan go would be the better option.

 

[mattymac]

FMD, Cornes and Plough talking on Trade Radio, took a call from an Adelaide caller asking about the status of the Jacobs, Keath and Greenwood trades

Cornes answered by saying 'As far as Jacobs goes i'd say that's going to be a late pick, i would have thought the same for Greenwood...'

Plough then interjected and warned the caller to 'not really expect a whole lot from those three this trade period'

I personally had a massive go at Plough (credit to him though he does involve in twitter convo) last year for being WAY off the mark with his trade analysis, particularly involving Crows players, Kane is just predictable.

This year no different.

Melbourne media always run down the value of players from interstate clubs in a narrative designed to favour the VFL clubs.

It's only natural. Imagine if we took over the VFL instead of vice versa. You'd have Stephen Rowes and Bruce Abernathys playing down the value of any victorian players our local clubs were trying to trade in.

And yes, Fireboy qualifies as Melbourne media because they own him.

 

[DJ75]

I know we have all taken our eyes off the trade period as we try to figure out what on Earth we are going to do with our coaches etc...

BUT, I wonder if there is an opportunity for the club to help the Sydney/Essendon Daniher trade? Essendon want top draft picks and a ready made player. We might have the only ready made key forward available in Jenkins.

Is there a way we could perhaps turn Jenkins and one of our picks in to Hayward? Jenkins goes to Essendon, one of our picks to Sydney (maybe 23). Might be enough to grease the wheels and get the trade through??

 

[DJ75]

Another idea;

Would you trade pick 4, 23 and 28 to Geelong, for Pick 14, 17 and Charlie Constable?

Geelong seem very keen to get pick 4 and Constable would get an opportunity to shine in our midfield.

 

[Hang_Time]

Another idea;

Would you trade pick 4, 23 and 28 to Geelong, for Pick 14, 17 and Charlie Constable?

Geelong seem very keen to get pick 4 and Constable would get an opportunity to shine in our midfield.

So that rates constable as around pick 9.. if we did this I would give up. I’ve got a good idea let’s keep pick 4 and take the best available

 

[Elite Crow]

Another idea;

Would you trade pick 4, 23 and 28 to Geelong, for Pick 14, 17 and Charlie Constable?

Geelong seem very keen to get pick 4 and Constable would get an opportunity to shine in our midfield.

No

 

[70lethal]

Another idea;

Would you trade pick 4, 23 and 28 to Geelong, for Pick 14, 17 and Charlie Constable?

Geelong seem very keen to get pick 4 and Constable would get an opportunity to shine in our midfield.

Would you give me a $100 bill and 2 x $10 and I'll give you 2 x $20 and a small gift in return?

 

[huludicidal]

Another idea;

Would you trade pick 4, 23 and 28 to Geelong, for Pick 14, 17 and Charlie Constable?

Geelong seem very keen to get pick 4 and Constable would get an opportunity to shine in our midfield.

Take out 23 and 28, or add in Geelong’s 2020 first rounder, and it’s a conversation.

The trade you’ve proposed is ridiculously lopsided towards Geelong though.

 

[Wouldbetackler]

Another idea;

Would you trade pick 4, 23 and 28 to Geelong, for Pick 14, 17 and Charlie Constable?

Geelong seem very keen to get pick 4 and Constable would get an opportunity to shine in our midfield.

Would have to be 4 for 14, 17 and Constable at the very least and even then

 

[DJ75]

Would have to be 4 for 14, 17 and Constable at the very least and even then

Yeh I think I have massively overrated Constable. TBH I was trying to find a trade where Geelong getting pick 4 worked to our benefit and I couldn’t find enough picks or any players I really wanted from them. Reached a bit for Constable

 

[70lethal]

Would have to be 4 for 14, 17 and Constable at the very least and even then

 

[GreyCrow]

Another idea;

Would you trade pick 4, 23 and 28 to Geelong, for Pick 14, 17 and Charlie Constable?

Geelong seem very keen to get pick 4 and Constable would get an opportunity to shine in our midfield.

At least you are thinking outside the box so kudos

2 things

I would never give Geelong the smell of my old jocks I hate them so much

I think that deal is heavily in favour of Geelong so thats another reason not to do it

 

[SuperBashBros]

Should be a better 3 days of trade considering we have Eddie, Keath, Greenwood, Frampton and JJ to sort out. Hopefully get some pick swaps too but theres no deadline with that.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Crows haggle over Keath value

Adelaide has pointed to the Western Bulldogs' trade involving defender Marcus Adams last year as a fair equivalent in a deal to send Alex Keath to the Kennel.

The Age reports the Crows think a swap similar to Adams going to Brisbane for pick No.32 and a future third-round selection last year as fair value in the Keath talks.

Adams was contracted and a year younger than 28-year-old intercept backman Keath, however, and the Dogs believe a selection close to their picks 45 or 51 is correct value.

 

[craig crowing]

Reid is going to have to shake some trees in next 3 days to get things happening without buckling under.
A -- Jacobs should be easiest and hopefully anything from 50 - 60 should get done .
B -- Greenwood although they want to under pay GC will be left with real egg on face and AFL unhappy with you would think, if don't pull this trade off
C -- Betts where we guess they haven't over committed on who they try to bring in or haven't lost real interest in 33 yr old to get reasonable 40 wish pick with some $ help.
D -- Keath it must be frustrating to deal with club that offers massive contract to player and wants to pay peanuts in trade.
My belief hold tight and gets near crunch time offer a slightly better contract than before as he is still of need and apart from Butts who not AFL body
as a KDP.
E -- What I believe is our biggest concern how do we move JJ on when nobody really wants him.
And what do we do with him if can't move on.
F -- Brad Crouch who I don't want to lose or pay near a mill. $ for is another decision he and new coach needs to make.
Personally would only give up for Luko and play hard ball.
These are only my observation and only glad Burton not around to influence any decisions.

 

[Crow till I die]

I think a deal that could work in the daniher deal could be

Crows give picks 4 & 23 to essendon
Essendon give daniher to sydney
Sydney give picks 5 & 2020 1st to crows + swap 2020 2nd for essendon 2020 3rd

This would allow them to keep pick 9 for papley this year to either use or split for maybe a later 1st this year then another late 1st next year

I am thinking sydney will be a bottom half team next year so crows drop a place this year but gain a good pick next year

Essendon get a higher pick this year + an early 2nd then upgrade to another 2020 2nd...maybe enough???

 

[ams4crows]

Just say get stuffed Bulldogs and make him sign a 2 year deal with an easy trigger for a 3rd.

If they can't get Keath they can't get Bruce and they'll have egg on their face for wasting both of those guys time because they were greedy as **** and didnt want to pay up for two guys who'd make their side really good.

Or he tries his luck in the pre season draft

 

[Elite Crow]

How do you give a contract that size to a guy you rate a pick in the 50s?

That pick is meaningless to us given we will have similar picks.

Send him to the draft

 

[tinman]

Crows haggle over Keath value

Adelaide has pointed to the Western Bulldogs' trade involving defender Marcus Adams last year as a fair equivalent in a deal to send Alex Keath to the Kennel.

The Age reports the Crows think a swap similar to Adams going to Brisbane for pick No.32 and a future third-round selection last year as fair value in the Keath talks.

Adams was contracted and a year younger than 28-year-old intercept backman Keath, however, and the Dogs believe a selection close to their picks 45 or 51 is correct value.

If Keath ends up in the PSD then surely he won’t make it past GC.

In discussions with GC on Greenwood we could sort something out that sees both players at GC, one via trade and the other the PSD if the Bullies don’t stump up.

 

[jackster83]

I think a deal that could work in the daniher deal could be

Crows give picks 4 & 23 to essendon
Essendon give daniher to sydney
Sydney give picks 5 & 2020 1st to crows + swap 2020 2nd for essendon 2020 3rd

This would allow them to keep pick 9 for papley this year to either use or split for maybe a later 1st this year then another late 1st next year

I am thinking sydney will be a bottom half team next year so crows drop a place this year but gain a good pick next year

Essendon get a higher pick this year + an early 2nd then upgrade to another 2020 2nd...maybe enough???

Nah. Enough kicking the can down the road.

Top 30 picks this year are what we need.

 

[Crow till I die]

Nah. Enough kicking the can down the road.

Top 30 picks this year are what we need.

I am hearing you..i just want to be armed to get lukosius if he indicates he wants to come back. 2 x top 10 picks for him and maybe a later 1st next year would be immense aa if edwards and borlase kick on we could maybe get all 3

 

[StonesThrow]

If they can get Keath for that it will be a bargain trade for them.