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I’m out too. Should have crashed an hour ago.
He can put a price on his head knowing he will get the deal that was promised if he can get past 14 other clubs. The risk is all with Brisbane then that he won't last.
We should only be concerned with players coming to the club. If they are concerned about what happens when they want to leave before they get here they should never have come here in the first place.
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It says more about the culture of the whole place if we resort to that, not just the individual act.
I'm not talking only about trading.
We've had our pants pulled down for 10 years and hasn't helped us retain jack shit.
If we don't need pick 40 and we value him higher than wait it right out. The Lions particularly need to be brought to heel for the shit they pulled with Lyons and now Ah Chee.
This is actually bizarre
Hard to believe you have supported the Suns for longer than about 10 minutes with comments like this
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Ok lets send all our players to the PSD, that'll work.
We'll scare all our players into staying.
Great way to build a team.
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Name a player we have ever forced into the PSD
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I found it weird that even a Richmond supporter come in and try to get something out of ah chee, yet some GCS supporter just want pick 40+ for him.
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You clearly don’t understand what we’re talking about.
No one has gone through the psd. I don’t want to send anyone to the psd.
But that is what the gun is suggesting we do if BRISBANE don’t cough up pick 15 for ah chee.
And that’s what I disagree with, all you guys are jumping on board with that though. You guys are the ones saying send him to the psd.
Send him to the psd if lions don’t give us pick 15. Only two options. Either pick 15 or psd.
I’m all for asking for 15 - go for it. But I would have a number of other suggestions if they refuse that. Our second round back for ah chee +- late pick is a good one that has been put out there.
Ob11 is the only person who has mentioned pick 40.
You guys are all saying if BRISBANE aren’t willing to give up pick 15 we should say well **** you, we are sending an chee through the psd. This is what I disagree with.
“We’ll show other players that BRISBANE can’t get a deal done” spare me..
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Yeah I’ve seen him enough. Average, undersized. Tends to go missing when the going gets tough. Probably why his name is being thrown up.
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No one is going to the PSD, last person to do that was Luke Ball all those years ago.
Us acting all tough about players doesn't do anything, they have all got to where they wanted to go.
That isn't how you inspire people to stay, by threatening them.
Us acting all tough about players doesn't do anything, they have all got to where they wanted to go.
That isn't how you inspire people to stay, by threatening them.
He doesn’t want to stay.
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True, but other players on the fence about staying or going might see something like this and not be filled with enthusiasm.
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100%, but...
No it doesn’t, but it says don’t take the piss out of the club. We will do anything to help you and work with you if you remain honest and integral. But it f you think this is a free lunch, think again.
It’s a way of weeding out the weeds and only taking on board genuine footballers. At some point you need to have some self respect.
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Nah, I understand his point of view.
It’s fear based and that’s okay.
But at some point you need to stand up and go this stops here!
The football world will soon find out the facts that you had a player who didn’t play for you, cried poor, took annual/sick leave, got offered the world by a successful opposition club, they ran for the cash, it’s obvious who is in the wrong. Kinda like a gold digger in that sense. The world sees through those types and would soon realise Brisbane let the player down, they offered them the world, a holiday to Paris and a 5 star suite, and gave them a pizza and Netflix. We simply stood up for ourselves and believed the player was worth more than what Brisbane offered even after the fact they offered more to get his interest.
It says so much more about them than it does us and a simple well written public speech by Cochrane would cement that and explain our new found culture for success where we don’t offer super annuation cheque’s for zero down payment. We offer it to genuine players.
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We don’t need fence sitters.
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The fear based are from Brisbane and Ah Chee that if they don't get what they want they will distabalise the current culture. Ah chee just played one AFL games this year I doubt any players will get affected by him.
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Well unfortunately our position we will have plenty that may look at the market. Do need to make sure we have people wanting to stay and feel like they are apart of something and not one based off of fear and demanded respect and loyalty.
I may be an outlier in my thinking but publically stomping our feet and throwing our toys out of the pram isn't the way to go about it IMO.
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Nobody throwing their toys out, the toy decided that contract offered not good enough despise playing one AFL games this season.
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Nah, Brisbane in that situation would be acting unethical, opportunistic if you will. If we just proceed to unbutton our pants for the 100th time expecting a new result is pretty much the definition of insanity. Don’t be afraid to change the algorithm, take your emotional hats off, change the circumstances to a business model (which it is). If the business is not financially viable, the way you have been conducting business will more than likely need addressing. In this instance the player ROI. We don’t train folks and sell them for unders and then blame the stables. In the past that may have been the case, but not anymore. We have world class facilities, the most assisted players with respect to player retention, amazing atmosphere and solid culture. We can’t blame the stables anymore. It’s how we negotiate, conduct business and balance our books moving forward.
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I don't understand this at all
Could you explain how you see the psychology of this statement playing out?
And why?
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