List Mgmt. 2019 Draft/Trade/FA Thread - Final Wrap

[Greendogg]

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Seems like a decent person does Zac but in my bottom 5 footballers all-time at the Club

Massive call when U consider some of the crud that has come through here.. off the top of my head, worse players than Zac..
Joel Wilkinson, Josh Hall, Timmy Summer, Nathan Ablett and of course the all time dud "his name rythms with Orange".. wins the award for biggest tool as well.
Plenty of others too.
That being said, hard pass on Zac for mine.

 

[Fat Pizza]

He simply doesn’t even try to hide his contempt for us anymore.

If you think Drain Russell's performance on Trade Radio was bad, you should hear how he backed it up on Sportsday last night. He really sank the boots into the Suns. Multiple times.

 

[Sun Stormer]

If you think Drain Russell's performance on Trade Radio was bad, you should hear how he backed it up on Sportsday last night. He really sank the boots into the Suns. Multiple times.

He was a very average footballer and an even worse sports commentator. Did I mention he came from Port Adelaide!

 

[SandyToes]

Massive call when U consider some of the crud that has come through here.. off the top of my head, worse players than Zac..
Joel Wilkinson, Josh Hall, Timmy Summer, Nathan Ablett and of course the all time dud "his name rythms with Orange".. wins the award for biggest tool as well.
Plenty of others too.
That being said, hard pass on Zac for mine.
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I didn't ever see Zac impose himself on a contest .Not once.He had plenty of opportunities.Played like an oversized mid.Can't recall him taking a mark over his head.Then when we released him to Geelong he lucked out for a couple of goals in the big game at the G v Hawthorn and it led to the usual drivel from Russell, Healey et al about "Why did they let him go?"
So multifactorial for me
His saving grace is he seems to be a decent human being that has never dissed us like a lot of our discards and runaways

 

[Greendogg]

100% agree but he is not all time in the worst 5 in our history.. which has more to do with our own ineptitude rather than any of Zac's ability.
I think our whole board predicted exactly what would happen when Geelong chose to pick him up. It is inexplicable that highly paid supposedly knowledgeable list managers can make such mistakes.

 

[GcSunsfan]

This is why we should get more salary cap space

 

[SandyToes]

100% agree but he is not all time in the worst 5 in our history..

He annoys me because I thought he could have been so much better
I doubt Dew et al would want him back because for want of a better descriptor- he lacks a bit of mongrel

 

[GcSunsfan]

Champions Data rate the Crouch brothers as average midfielders.

Del said in weeks leading up to playing the crows they wouldn’t put much work into the Crouch brother because they are not damaging with the ball not match winners.

They would focus on R Sloane who champion date have in the 72 percentile

 

[kreglze]

Dal has no real idea FWIW outside of Victoria it seems.

 

[GcSunsfan]

Dal has no real idea FWIW outside of Victoria it seems.

He’s spot on though they are not damaging with the ball.
They are not match winning midfielders

 

[kreglze]

He’s spot on though they are not damaging with the ball.
They are not match winning midfielders

No they aren't a Dangerfield or a Fyfe, but they elite in and under operators who extract the pill.

 

[GcSunsfan]

For people who missed the chat about the Crouch brothers

 

[Jirik13]

He’s spot on though they are not damaging with the ball.
They are not match winning midfielders

Agree. Also a lot of people point out Crouch brothers defensive deficiencies.

For me Greenwood is a great get and I would be happy only with him. This will be his 5th preseason. He should be able to play full time in midfield and if he stays healthy I can see him as a major contributor to our midfield while we also further develop Brodie, Bowes, Fiorini there.

Go for true elite player next year with hopefully more wins on the board.

 

[Jirik13]

No they aren't a Dangerfield or a Fyfe, but they elite in and under operators who extract the pill.

Suns actually got hands on the ball a lot. Problem was to take care of it, what we did with it, lack of speed, turnovers.

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

Champions Data rate the Crouch brothers as average midfielders.

Del said in weeks leading up to playing the crows they wouldn’t put much work into the Crouch brother because they are not damaging with the ball not match winners.

They would focus on R Sloane who champion date have in the 72 percentile

Brad Crouch is the better player regardless of what these stats say, you only have to watch them to see it. As far as Matt Crouch goes, he is a classic stats padder, in the Tom Rockliff mould, in the sense they get lots of the ball but their possessions don't hurt the opposition. This article is accurate IMO on Matt Crouch.

 

[kreglze]

Issue with us is... we get our hands on it then bomb it forward, we are woeful under pressure, we very rarely look to go by hand out of a pack. Least the Crouch's are good by hand and seem to find targets by hand. As I have said previous, Crouch would be nice, but I won't be calling our trade period a failure if we can't bring him in.

 

[NOBBYS]

My 20 cents worth.
Rowell and Anderson excited about the likelihood of getting two young guns.
Greenwood happy with terms and salary will be a good addition.
Ellis very very nervous about what he brings , had a very ordinary final series .For me $400000 for 3 seasons was plenty.
Recruiting officers will be hoping this one works otherwise ??
Zac Smith absolutely no way ,was no good 3 years ago and has got worse.
Mates in Adelaide still saying Brad Crouch no chance of leaving unless we are paying ridiculous amount.
Expect around pick 20 for Martin and pick 25 for AhChee or player exchange.
Best time of year for us Suns diehards.

 

[SandyToes]

How much better than Jarryd Lyons are either of the Crouch brothers?
(In the context of what people are considering they're worth)
And by extension, what would Brisbane ask for him if they were thinking of trading him?
And remembering we gave him away

 

[GcSunsfan]

 

[OB11]

Does the winner go to the next round? Bloodsport style

 

[Ben Drever]

For people who missed the chat about the Crouch brothers

So Rory Sloan.. yes please.

Here’s a blank cheque.

Loyal
Leadership
Family morals
Defensive game
Kicks goals

Next years future first and pick jack Martins pick

 

[Deleted member 2402071]

So Rory Sloan.. yes please.

Here’s a blank cheque.

Loyal
Leadership
Family morals
Defensive game
Kicks goals

Next years future first and pick jack Martins pick

Your first point kind of nullifies the trade hyperthetical

 

[Ben Drever]

Your first point kind of nullifies the trade hyperthetical

Just signed for 5 more years..
Desperate times desperate measures

As close to Selwood we’ll get i’d Say

 

[Suns of Anarchy]

How much better than Jarryd Lyons are either of the Crouch brothers?
(In the context of what people are considering they're worth)
And by extension, what would Brisbane ask for him if they were thinking of trading him?
And remembering we gave him away

Fair question. Are we judging it on the Lyons of 2018 where any tag resulted in him wilting & his professionalism was questioned? Or him pulling his finger out, team winning and no tag?

 

[SandyToes]

Fair question. Are we judging it on the Lyons of 2018 where any tag resulted in him wilting & his professionalism was questioned? Or him pulling his finger out, team winning and no tag?

Either or