Game Day 2020 AFL Grand Final Discussion - Richmond vs Geelong @ GABBA (24/10/20)

[LFC2010]

1 v 2 playing off in tonights NRL GF.

do they have a pre finals bye?

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

When does Hinkley have long service leave? That might be our best chance to win something.

The bastard will probably be around for 11 years and we might then give him permanent long service leave.

 

[ibd77]

1 v 2 playing off in tonights NRL GF.

do they have a pre finals bye?

I think they still use the old McIntyre top 8 system.

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[LFC2010]

INXS playing NTUA live at the NRL GF.. WTF!

make it happen Ports, SMA etc...

 

[Izzy01]

I think they still use the old McIntyre top 8 system.

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They have the same final 8 system as AFL, but no pre finals bye

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

I think they still use the old McIntyre top 8 system.

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Nope got rid of it a few years ago. Edit - they used it for 1999 to 2011 inclusive seasons.

 

[Capital Power]

Nope got rid of it a few years ago. Edit - they used it for 1999 to 2011 inclusive seasons.

Yeah I think that was around the time 8th beat 1st in the first week of finals and the whole thing became a farce. But no, as far as I can recall, NRL has never had a pre-finals bye.

This year the NRL top 8 was decided some weeks before the end of the season but the order within could still change. In the last round teams did rest players but there was no general outcry.

 

[JUSTWORK]

Heres the two guys that ran on at the Grad Final.

 

[Del165198]

Here are the two pitch invaders from last night, a couple of YouTubers wanting their few minutes of infamy.

The one thing these losers want is for you to click play on that video. Please don't do that

 

[TeeKray]

Was exactly that his dads background and because dusty wasn’t a private school boy/dropped out of school to get a job

Our coach at the time famously asked Dusty at the draft camp if dropping out of school meant he was an idiot.

In a bizarre twist, Chocolate and Dusty are now best of mates.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Our coach at the time famously asked Dusty at the draft camp if dropping out of school meant he was an idiot.

In a bizarre twist, Chocolate and Dusty are now best of mates.

Supposedly it wasn't Choco and it was a little more subtle than that.

Brownlow Medal winner Dusty Martin: how a young bloke 'pulled his head in'

Every now and again an AFL player comes along whose singular talent on field is equally matched by his enigmatic off-field persona. In 2017, that footballer has been Dusty Martin.

www.smh.com.au

Dusty's parents separated when he was a teenager and his life teetered for a while. He left school in year nine, Castlemaine High somewhat quaintly citing "irreconcilable differences". He's often said he regrets this. Years later, in a draft-camp interview, a Port Adelaide rep asked him: "Are you dumb?" Dusty took no offence; he knew where they were coming from. His father, anxious to impose order on Dusty's life, summoned him to Sydney, where he was then living. There, Dusty worked long hours in Shane's transport business and Adriana's sports apparel firm. In these jobs, as well as during a brief stint as a stonemason in Castlemaine, he is said to have abhorred the drudgery. But he was never as angry as he looked, telling journalist Emma Quayle in a 2010 interview that he detested "slow traffic, that's all".

 

[Tibbs]

Can't believe people here want Dangerfield penalized for knocking out Vlastuin!

Firstly, anyone knocking out Vlastuin deserves a medal, not condemnation!
Secondly, no way was it worth a suspension. He short-arm fists the ball and with his arm still out, the two players collide. In slow-mo you can see him tense that arm as he steels himself for impact, but no way does he have the time, or the requirement to lower it. It's a match indecent, nothing more. Comparing it to Jonas' late hit on Gaff is ridiculous.

Does he get favoured by umpires? ... Yes.
Do I dislike him? ... Yes.

But on this occasion it really is "nothing to see here"

 

[TeeKray]

Supposedly it wasn't Choco and it was a little more subtle than that.

Brownlow Medal winner Dusty Martin: how a young bloke 'pulled his head in'

Every now and again an AFL player comes along whose singular talent on field is equally matched by his enigmatic off-field persona. In 2017, that footballer has been Dusty Martin.

www.smh.com.au

Dusty's parents separated when he was a teenager and his life teetered for a while. He left school in year nine, Castlemaine High somewhat quaintly citing "irreconcilable differences". He's often said he regrets this. Years later, in a draft-camp interview, a Port Adelaide rep asked him: "Are you dumb?" Dusty took no offence; he knew where they were coming from. His father, anxious to impose order on Dusty's life, summoned him to Sydney, where he was then living. There, Dusty worked long hours in Shane's transport business and Adriana's sports apparel firm. In these jobs, as well as during a brief stint as a stonemason in Castlemaine, he is said to have abhorred the drudgery. But he was never as angry as he looked, telling journalist Emma Quayle in a 2010 interview that he detested "slow traffic, that's all".

Pretty sure it was Choco, he was notorious for asking those types of questions, doubt a no name recruiter or club official would dare talk to a prospective draftee like that ...

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Pretty sure it was Choco, he was notorious for asking those types of questions, doubt a no name recruiter or club official would dare talk to a prospective draftee like that ...

Choco is pretty honest about the crazy questions he has asked and things he has said in those interviews. I remember reading that Greg Baum article - I always look for his GF articles after he wrote a couple of great ones about Port in 2004 - and thought well if it was Choco, Baum would have put that it in there.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Yeah I think that was around the time 8th beat 1st in the first week of finals and the whole thing became a farce. But no, as far as I can recall, NRL has never had a pre-finals bye.

This year the NRL top 8 was decided some weeks before the end of the season but the order within could still change. In the last round teams did rest players but there was no general outcry.

Looked up the last 4 years they used the McIntyre 8. The first weeks results were

2008 - 1 beats 8, 2 beats 7, 3 beats 6 and 5 beats 4. GF was 1st Melbourne loses to 2nd Manly
2009 - 8 beats 1, 2 beats 7, 6 beats 3 and 4 beats 5. GF was 8th Parramatta loses to 4th Melbourne,
2010 - 1 beats 8, 7 beats 2, 6 beats 3 and 4 beats 5. GF was 1st St George beats 6th Roosters
2011 - 1 beats 8, 2 beats 7, 6 beats 3 and 4 beats 5. GF was 2nd Manly beats 6th New Zealand Warriors

So I reckon it was the fact sides from bottom half of 8 were making the GF last 3 years that drove the change.

 

[philreich]

I actually rather enjoyed the Grand Final last night if you don't count the angst at not having Port there

It was a decent enough game with lots of nice subplots and in the end it's astounding to see someone like Dusty rip a game right open

Not sold on night Grand Finals moving forward but it certainly frees up the afternoon

The AFL actually fluked it by having a night grand final in this instance, because if it had been played in the afternoon, the players would have needed to swap their footy boots for flippers. But yeah - I hope it was a one off, as the traditional Saturday afternoon AFL decider is one of the great days in Australian sport.

 

[tribey]

Pretty sure it was Choco, he was notorious for asking those types of questions, doubt a no name recruiter or club official would dare talk to a prospective draftee like that ...

Some of the stories guys who went on to be legends tell on one of the old draft podcasts makes it a genuine diceroll as to whether he’s a genius or cringelord-prime.

I can’t remember whether it was Goddard or Dal Santo who said he offered them a beer, straight off the bat in their morning meeting, as a test. I think it was Jordan Lewis

Jordan Lewis

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38

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(?) who he ordered to jump out a window.

Wild.

 

[JimmyBC]

Credit to Richmond it's worked for them but I'm not sure the emotional love-in model will work for other squads, connection is important but I reckon a few clubs will falter trying to emulate it.. the main reason for their success is the perfect game style for their squad rather than the group hand shandies involved.

 

[Us against the rest]

Some of the stories guys who went on to be legends tell on one of the old draft podcasts makes it a genuine diceroll as to whether he’s a genius or cringelord-prime.

I can’t remember whether it was Goddard or Dal Santo who said he offered them a beer, straight off the bat in their morning meeting, as a test. I think it was Jordan Lewis

Jordan Lewis

Age

38

Ht

186cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.5

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

11.5

5star

M

5.5

5star

T

2.7

4star

MG

310.5

4star

No current season stats available

D

15.0

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.8

5star

(?) who he ordered to jump out a window.

Wild.

It reminds me of when they hypnotized Wingard and he was told he was being traded. What he didn't know Hinkley really meant it.

 

[TeeKray]

Credit to Richmond it's worked for them but I'm not sure the emotional love-in model will work for other squads, connection is important but I reckon a few clubs will falter trying to emulate it.. the main reason for their success is the perfect game style for their squad rather than the group hand shandies involved.

They also don't have a guy called Dustin Martin who will lift at just about every big moment to help get them over the line.

Way too much credit is given to game plan in AFL, personnel is so much more important.

 

[mynameissilver]

They also don't have a guy called Dustin Martin who will lift at just about every big moment to help get them over the line.

Way too much credit is given to game plan in AFL, personnel is so much more important.

Case in point . The greatest coach in the universe Clarko has the same game plan but not the personnel. A great game plan is not some secret recipe only devised by premiership coaches.

 

[Marmozet]

Nick Dal Santo

Nick Dal Santo

Age

40

Ht

185cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.9

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

9.9

5star

M

3.7

4star

T

3.6

5star

CL

4.0

5star

No current season stats available

D

13.2

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.2

4star

said on a FoxFooty ad that Chocco asked him a question about his girlfriend, then said to him "you're not very fast, are you?" and that's when Dal knew we weren't drafting him.

Strange way to make potential new draftees feel welcome.

 

[TeeKray]

Nick Dal Santo

Nick Dal Santo

Age

40

Ht

185cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.9

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

9.9

5star

M

3.7

4star

T

3.6

5star

CL

4.0

5star

No current season stats available

D

13.2

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.2

4star

said on a FoxFooty ad that Chocco asked him a question about his girlfriend, then said to him "you're not very fast, are you?" and that's when Dal knew we weren't drafting him.

Strange way to make potential new draftees feel welcome.

I bet we would've drafted Dal Santo if we had the chance, a quintessential Chocolate type player.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

The one thing these losers want is for you to click play on that video. Please don't do that

Clicked on it to report it to youtube. Maybe if enough people do that it will get taken down.

Can't believe people here want Dangerfield penalized for knocking out Vlastuin!

Firstly, anyone knocking out Vlastuin deserves a medal, not condemnation!
Secondly, no way was it worth a suspension. He short-arm fists the ball and with his arm still out, the two players collide. In slow-mo you can see him tense that arm as he steels himself for impact, but no way does he have the time, or the requirement to lower it. It's a match indecent, nothing more. Comparing it to Jonas' late hit on Gaff is ridiculous.

Does he get favoured by umpires? ... Yes.
Do I dislike him? ... Yes.

But on this occasion it really is "nothing to see here"

I think the issue is that we all know if it had been a Port or GWS player that they would probably get 2-3 for it.

 

[Janus]

The coaches vote on the coach of the year. I think they have a better understanding of what makes a good one since they have to coach against each other.

There is one thing that is missing about Port. It’s not the hunger...it’s the fear. Our players should look at Westhoff and Ebert retiring without a flag and be thinking “I don’t want that to be me.”