2020 Draft Day Wash Up - Thoughts on our picks

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giantroo said:
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Rebuilding the Magpies: inside the Collingwood bunker

An exclusive look from inside the room as Collingwood recruiters helped reshape the club's list on AFL draft night following the traumas of the Magpies' trade period.
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Collingwood, finally, drafted McCreery with pick 44 – their sixth selection in the 2020 national draft.
Those in the room shook hands or patted backs.
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Hmmm, another Covid/social distancing breach. Tennis anyone?
 

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giantroo said:
National draft drought leaves AFL Tasmania searching for answers
AFL Tasmania is on the hunt for answers after no Tasmanians were selected in the national draft for the second consecutive year.

Brett Stubbs
@stubboir
December 11, 2020 - 2:40PM
Mercury

AFL Tasmania’s talent program has vowed to leave no stone unturned after the state failed to have one player taken in the national draft for the second straight year.

Questions remain over the standard of the TSL in the eyes of recruiters with AFL clubs willing to take punts on players from the WAFL and SANFL colts or Victorians who played no football in 2020 rather than Tasmanians playing senior football weekly in the TSL.

Wednesday night’s disappointment at the national draft was somewhat lessened by North Hobart winger Patrick Walker (North Melbourne) and Launceston bolter Isaac Chugg (Collingwood) being taken in Thursday’s rookie draft.

But the likes of dashing Demon defender Sam Collins, North Launceston key forward Jackson Callow and Clarence ball magnet Oliver Davis were overlooked.

Davis, 18, was this year named the TSL”s best under-23 player, Clarence’s best and fairest, named in the state league’s team of the year and captained Guilford Young College to a state premiership but still could did not have his name called out by an AFL club.


Devils head coach and AFL Tasmania talent manager Cameron Joyce said it was the locals inability to play against Victoria’s best under-18 players this year due to COVID that was the main factor in no selections in the national draft.

“Let’s not sugar-coat it, we want to have players drafted in the national draft from Tasmania,” Joyce said.

“We need to look at everything we are doing and making sure we are providing the best opportunity but also the best pathway for the players to make it that want to make it.

“What I want to do is canvas the recruiters and I want to get their opinion on what these boys do really well and what they need to work on and then we can go to work on that rather than guessing.

“Is there different roles they can play?

“Is there different strengths and weaknesses we need to look at?

“Is there a different training regime for them? Are there other opportunities to play?

“We want to exhaust all that if their dream is still to play AFL footy and give Tasmanian players the best opportunity to make it.”

He said he had already spoken to Davis, Callow and Collins about opportunities to return to the Devils next season with the competition to be extended to under-19s.

Joyce also said there could be opportunities for Tasmanians to make appearances in the new VFL/Eastern seaboard competition to show their talents at an even higher level.
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Joyce’s went onto say he’d have drafted them all.

here’s a tip for you Tassie If you’re after improvement **** Joyce off
 
Exciting times coming.

Some say north never chose a tall.
Remember Charlie Comben, ready to play a major role on norths forward line.
Like a new recruit.

Mouth watering if it happens " the spice rack" crumbing off larkey and comben
 
Harris 10 said:
Was well known Collingwood recruiter Daniel Wells in the room.
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It appears not. Must have been on his way to Reefer's place with a jumper or something.
 
Psicosis said:
Please don’t ever mention those 4 names in reference to Phillips or Powell.

Ever again.

Please.
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Phillips and Powell are the most amazing players ever drafted , of course, for now, if things don't work out, in a few years they will be gone and people will be typing into their keyboards that they are just "shitmen", just like the last lot of delistees, and so it goes on and on and on. Next superstar, Next Superstar , gun, gun, All Australian, All Australian, Next Captain, Next Captain, Brownlow Medallist, Brownlow Medallist, OR , if things don't work out just a "shitman". They are ALL just young blokes having a crack at their dream.
 
Go_Roos! said:
Phillips and Powell are the most amazing players ever drafted , of course, for now, if things don't work out, in a few years they will be gone and people will be typing into their keyboards that they are just "shitmen", just like the last lot of delistees, and so it goes on and on and on. Next superstar, Next Superstar , gun, gun, All Australian, All Australian, Next Captain, Next Captain, Brownlow Medallist, Brownlow Medallist, OR , if things don't work out just a "shitman". They are ALL just young blokes having a crack at their dream.
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Yep, pretty much how it always goes. At the end of the day, everyone who gets drafted has talent and when they hit the AFL system it's about desire and opportunity.
 
Go_Roos! said:
Phillips and Powell are the most amazing players ever drafted , of course, for now, if things don't work out, in a few years they will be gone and people will be typing into their keyboards that they are just "shitmen", just like the last lot of delistees, and so it goes on and on and on. Next superstar, Next Superstar , gun, gun, All Australian, All Australian, Next Captain, Next Captain, Brownlow Medallist, Brownlow Medallist, OR , if things don't work out just a "shitman". They are ALL just young blokes having a crack at their dream.
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You forgot the fact that everyone North drafts is the wrong choice and a horrible player even if they were highly rated when they were linked to opposition clubs.
 
Go_Roos! said:
Phillips and Powell are the most amazing players ever drafted , of course, for now, if things don't work out, in a few years they will be gone and people will be typing into their keyboards that they are just "shitmen", just like the last lot of delistees, and so it goes on and on and on. Next superstar, Next Superstar , gun, gun, All Australian, All Australian, Next Captain, Next Captain, Brownlow Medallist, Brownlow Medallist, OR , if things don't work out just a "shitman". They are ALL just young blokes having a crack at their dream.
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Bloody well said👍
 

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ferball said:
It is interesting that we also picked two of the highest (or lowest) scoring kids ever on the agility test. Lazzarro and Spicer both scored around 7.80 which equals the record (I think.)

So we didn't just get speed we got overall mobility, agility etc etc. WE got players who can move well. Like pace its one of those things we seemed to lack, especially before Jy came along. I wonder how much his ability to move sideways and to work inside the contest has influenced the decisions on Spicer and Lazzarro?
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Interesting that they are shortish too by modern midfield standards @180ish cm. I can see the new Luff theorem being taught in future coaching classes: agility > height

Go_Roos! said:
Phillips and Powell are the most amazing players ever drafted , of course, for now, if things don't work out, in a few years they will be gone and people will be typing into their keyboards that they are just "shitmen", just like the last lot of delistees, and so it goes on and on and on. Next superstar, Next Superstar , gun, gun, All Australian, All Australian, Next Captain, Next Captain, Brownlow Medallist, Brownlow Medallist, OR , if things don't work out just a "shitman". They are ALL just young blokes having a crack at their dream.
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Yes. There are only two types of players: guns and sh*tmen. Welcome to Bigfooty.
 
Egga said:
Interesting that they are shortish too by modern midfield standards @180ish cm. I can see the new Luff theorem being taught in future coaching classes: agility > height
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If height becomes the go to option as it seems with mids then suddenly lack of agility becomes a potential weakness to exploit.

What I like about the way the footy department is going about things is that they seem to be thinking about the game's future evolution more than reacting to what has happened recently.
 
Egga said:
Interesting that they are shortish too by modern midfield standards @180ish cm. I can see the new Luff theorem being taught in future coaching classes: agility > height



Yes. There are only two types of players: guns and sh*tmen. Welcome to Bigfooty.
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and a gun is only 3 bad games from being a shitman

while a shitman is a Brownlow medal away from being considered good!
 
Go_Roos! said:
Phillips and Powell are the most amazing players ever drafted , of course, for now, if things don't work out, in a few years they will be gone and people will be typing into their keyboards that they are just "shitmen", just like the last lot of delistees, and so it goes on and on and on. Next superstar, Next Superstar , gun, gun, All Australian, All Australian, Next Captain, Next Captain, Brownlow Medallist, Brownlow Medallist, OR , if things don't work out just a "shitman". They are ALL just young blokes having a crack at their dream.
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20 years ago Dylan Smith was the next Peter Bell at pick 6


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Event Horizon said:
20 years ago Dylan Smith was that next Peter Bell at pick 6


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Ahhhh the memories, where has that 20 yrs gone.
 
Event Horizon said:
20 years ago Dylan Smith was that next Peter Bell at pick 6


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I remember Shifter calling him a "modern day Ben Cousins".

Which confused me at the time, Ben was about 22 himself.
 
It's usually a case a best available for the firdt 2-3 picks in the draft. Doesn't the fact that we chose three similar types seem to run against this?
 
chairo said:
It's usually a case a best available for the firdt 2-3 picks in the draft. Doesn't the fact that we chose three similar types seem to run against this?
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What makes you think we didn't do that? The first three picks seem like different types.

Like younger versions of Cunners, Higgo and Jy if you like.

And the first two could well be the best available.
 
A lot of people are only looking at oh ahh the superstars like Martin Dangerfield etc. In order for martin to do what he does, there needs to be a plethora of caddy, prestia, mcintosh, griggs,
 

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