Opinion 2020 Draft picks 1/9/22/23/40/56/66/80 (2021 + Melb 2nd, 4th, Haw 4th)

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KEY DATES

Oct 30 – Nov 6: AFL Free Agency Period
November 4 – 12: AFL Trade Period
November 20: List Lodgment 1
November 27: List Lodgment 2
November 30: AFL Draft Nominations close
w/c December 7: NAB AFL Draft and Rookie Draft (exact date to be confirmed in due course)
Mid-December: Final List Lodgment & TPP estimates​

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[Tex Milera]

No. No way we will trade pick 1. Absolutely none


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Reid has come out today and said although unlikely, it has not been ruled out and will entertain offers
I have a feeling someone like Essendon or Collingwood are going to throw a massive carrot at Crows to get pick #1 and KPF in a McDonald


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[Brett Cummings]

I’d be real happy to do that, but I don’t see Haw wanting to trade 4 for just 9 and 22/23. If they did want to do that, I’d be all over it

he could even slide to the coasters if hawthorn decide to go phiilips or something. gold coast have also said they wouldnt be against trading down.

 

[FAITH]

Still early.

I've heard a whisper that we'll take hollands.
But it's hard to know for sure.

How bad is his knee?
We don't know. I would still go for McDonald.

 

[Thetrader15]

What about 2 and 11 from the kangaroos?

I like this one, 2 and 11 for 1 and 23 after we talk up McDonald!

 

[Hodgy]

Yer borderline I reckon, it makes us have to take an extra one on this year within our existing list cuts and I think we really have an interest in next year. Also don't see why kangas do that, doesn't make sense from their list perspective. To lose a good first rounder to get a one spot upgrade when they're doing a rebuild.

pick 1 has to have some value. I suppose it depends how highly they rate McDonald. I know if we had pick 2 then I would expect to have to give up something like 11 to move up.
I agree re our list cuts, which makes it crazy that we signed Mackay this early. We can probably trade 22 or 23 into next year on the night though.

 

[GrommoT]

If ever there was a team that would trade pick 1 it would be us. That said I highly doubt it gets done.

Trying to think of some combos that would get it done. I think we will especially want to stay in the top 5 this year. If not its going to take huge overs.

For someone outside of the first 5, Essendon is the obvious one, it would take 6 plus another pick before 15 plus their next years first rounder I reckon, with maybe some later round swaps, that's the sort of thing we are talking.

In the top 5, Kangaroos might get it done for 2 and next years second or 2, 30 and next years 3 rd rounder (provided we think we can take their 30 from this year and upgrade it to something higher up next year with someone)

For Syd it would take 3 and their next years first rounder, maybe some later round swaps to fix it up a bit
For Hawks it would take 4 and their next years first rounder and later swaps

For GC it would take 5 and their next years first and probably either a second this year or more preferably their second next year.

Since we're not in a hurry to trade down, we should set the price for #1 with a premium of 50% (if not more) - Port paid nearly 50% more in points worth to get pick 6 for Rozee in 2018.

North trading #2 for it and including pick #11 would be around the mark, or if we think North finish bottom 6 and us middle 6, #2 and their 2021 r1 pick for #1 and our 2021 r2 would be around the mark.

As for the Bumbs, 6, 7 and 8 for 1 and 40 would be around the mark (applying the bad guy anti-discount for Dodo).

 

[Hodgy]

We only have 7x senior list vacancies, so you can scrub picks 80 & 72 from those lists. We can only take as many picks into the draft as we have vacancies, so that means 7 picks.

They have changed that for this year. Can have as many picks as you like.

 

[triggyscrewedus]

Going by our record, we will stuff up our two top ten picks but do really well with our picks from the second round onwards.

Lever is still Hamish's best first round draftee.

Hamish... no more short people!

 

[ad victoriam]

They have changed that for this year. Can have as many picks as you like.

No, the AFL has stated the max main List size of 38, anyone taken in the main Draft goes onto the main List,
Crows currently have including Hately 32 players on the main list which leaves only 6 vacanies,

 

[Carmo]

Depends if they want to guarantee getting McDonald, and we make the pick available for the best offer.

1 and 22 for 2 and 11?

Still don't reckon you do that if your north, dropping 11 spots is way too far on the second pick. If crows got 16 off collingwood then 1 and 16 for 2 and 11 I think would go pretty close, I'd do that if I was north.

 

[Carmo]

Since we're not in a hurry to trade down, we should set the price for #1 with a premium of 50% (if not more) - Port paid nearly 50% more in points worth to get pick 6 for Rozee in 2018.

North trading #2 for it and including pick #11 would be around the mark, or if we think North finish bottom 6 and us middle 6, #2 and their 2021 r1 pick for #1 and our 2021 #1 would be around the mark.

As for the Bumbs, 6, 7 and 8 for 1 and 40 would be around the mark (applying the bad guy anti-discount for Dodo). 4946

6, 7 and 8 for 1 and whatever is more than enough, its overs above the normal overs. I just think adel would want to use the lure of 1 to try and get something very good for next year as well if theyre going to dangle it. No way bombers do that anyway I reckon.

 

[Hodgy]

No, the AFL has stated the max main List size of 38, anyone taken in the main Draft goes onto the main List,
Crows currently have including Hately 32 players on the main list which leaves only 6 vacanies,

No I realize that. i was referring to the fact that you can go into the draft with as many picks as you like this year. we just can only use 6 on players because that’s all the list spots we have.

 

[Thetrader15]

Since we're not in a hurry to trade down, we should set the price for #1 with a premium of 50% (if not more) - Port paid nearly 50% more in points worth to get pick 6 for Rozee in 2018.

North trading #2 for it and including pick #11 would be around the mark, or if we think North finish bottom 6 and us middle 6, #2 and their 2021 r1 pick for #1 and our 2021 #1 would be around the mark.

As for the Bumbs, 6, 7 and 8 for 1 and 40 would be around the mark (applying the bad guy anti-discount for Dodo). 4946

I'm not running the risk we finish below north next year.

1, 2021/2 for 2, 2021/1

Let's see if they are REALLY interested or not.

 

[Hodgy]

Still don't reckon you do that if your north, dropping 11 spots is way too far on the second pick. If crows got 16 off collingwood then 1 and 16 for 2 and 11 I think would go pretty close, I'd do that if I was north.

Sellers market. In the NFL they regularly give up 3 or 4 first round picks to get pick 1. North might well not do it, but if they desperately want McDonald then it’s up to them to convince us.

 

[macca23]

Should Crows trade #1?

I would - but only on the basis of 2 tied deals -BOTH MUST HAPPEN

1,23,56 & 66 to North
2, 11, 30 & 39 to Crows

Crows then have 2,9,11,22,30,39,40,80

Then trade 9,11, & 40 to Sydney
Pick 3 to Crows

Crows then have 2,3,22,30,39,80

This way we get 1 of McDonald & Tilthorpe plus Hollands.

Thoughts?

 

[Brett Cummings]

Should Crows trade #1?

I would - but only on the basis of 2 tied deals -BOTH MUST HAPPEN

1,23,56 & 66 to North
2, 11, 30 & 39 to Crows

Crows then have 2,9,11,22,30,39,40,80

Then trade 9,11, & 40 to Sydney
Pick 3 to Crows

Crows then have 2,3,22,30,39,80

This way we get 1 of McDonald & Tilthorpe plus Hollands.

Thoughts?

Sydney arent trading their pick 3 for 9 and 11.

 

[Mego Red]

We only have 7x senior list vacancies, so you can scrub picks 80 & 72 from those lists. We can only take as many picks into the draft as we have vacancies, so that means 7 picks.

Supposedly that's not true anymore. Was a part of the AFL's most recent announcements.

 

[Spartacus_Aurelius]

Should Crows trade #1?

I would - but only on the basis of 2 tied deals -BOTH MUST HAPPEN

1,23,56 & 66 to North
2, 11, 30 & 39 to Crows

Crows then have 2,9,11,22,30,39,40,80

Then trade 9,11, & 40 to Sydney
Pick 3 to Crows

Crows then have 2,3,22,30,39,80

This way we get 1 of McDonald & Tilthorpe plus Hollands.

Thoughts?

Creative but I can't see Sydney biting at this. They will want a pick before a bid on Campbell.

 

[GrommoT]

I'm not running the risk we finish below north next year.

1, 2021/2 for 2, 2021/1

Let's see if they are REALLY interested or not.

Cr@p! I actually meant our 2021 r2 pick.

 

[Crow till I die]

Should Crows trade #1?

I would - but only on the basis of 2 tied deals -BOTH MUST HAPPEN

1,23,56 & 66 to North
2, 11, 30 & 39 to Crows

Crows then have 2,9,11,22,30,39,40,80

Then trade 9,11, & 40 to Sydney
Pick 3 to Crows

Crows then have 2,3,22,30,39,80

This way we get 1 of McDonald & Tilthorpe plus Hollands.

Thoughts?

Why do Sydney do that when a bid for Campbell that comes in before 9 will eat into those picks...

 

[1990crow]

Should Crows trade #1?

I would - but only on the basis of 2 tied deals -BOTH MUST HAPPEN

1,23,56 & 66 to North
2, 11, 30 & 39 to Crows

Crows then have 2,9,11,22,30,39,40,80

Then trade 9,11, & 40 to Sydney
Pick 3 to Crows

Crows then have 2,3,22,30,39,80

This way we get 1 of McDonald & Tilthorpe plus Hollands.

Thoughts?

No picks in the range needed for Newchurch or Edwards. Only Borlase. Think we take one of the other 2.

So, not for me.
Plus I think McDonald is a generational talent we shouldn't be trading.
I would look at 9, 22, 23 for Hawks pick 4 and their future second.

 

[1990crow]

Why do Sydney do that when a bid for Campbell that comes in before 9 will eat into those picks...

Yeah. Not gonna happen. Think they have DGB lined up.
What interests me is what North do with pick 2. Thilthorpe over Hollands for them I reckon.
Means Hollands is possible at pick 4.

 

[hey shorty]

This "generational talent" phrase is being thrown around a lot.

Is it because Matt "Listen to me please I need work" Rendell said it ??

 

[Brett Cummings]

This "generational talent" phrase is being thrown around a lot.

Is it because Matt "Listen to me please I need work" Rendell said it ??

Lets not forget he thinks eveyones a flight risk for the crows if they arent from SA.

Mcdonald? Flight risk
Phillips? Flight risk

Its like is there anyone we can pick besides thilthorpe mate? Is everyone too scared to move interstate? Give me a break.

 

[FAITH]

This "generational talent" phrase is being thrown around a lot.

Is it because Matt "Listen to me please I need work" Rendell said it ??

Yes.