Resource 2020 Draft Watch (picks 1, 9, 20, 30, 45, 50, 60, 74) - updated R17 15/9/20

[Deaneus!]

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[Mutineer]

Gooch OOC at the end of this season? Should he be worried of being cut with smaller list sizes?

Odds are the club would tend to offer him another contract on their terms and hope he eventually lives up to his 1st round pick rather than admit they got it wrong. I can't see too many clubs clamouring for his services currently but I guess it will come down to how he handles Godden's strong words in the end.
There's something there for sure but unfortunately we've mainly only seen glimpses so Jordan really needs to make every post a winner in what's left of this season from hell.

 

[Mego Red]

I think you offer Gallucci one year. He's had a clear set of directions from the club but he needs some time to deliver on them (and get a role he can succeed at), which might be tough in this insane year.

 

[texas_ranger]

An increase in the interchange bench and Stengle being out for the first weeks might give Gooch a clear run at it. Unless Mcadam, Keays and Crocker have all overtaken him?

 

[skittlebrew]

I think you offer Gallucci one year. He's had a clear set of directions from the club but he needs some time to deliver on them (and get a role he can succeed at), which might be tough in this insane year.

I think he'll get offered another year too but he shouldn't. I'm at the stage where I would rather see untried players have a crack at it than persisting with Gooch. He just doesn't have it, there's no shame in that.

 

[Thetrader15]

An increase in the interchange bench and Stengle being out for the first weeks might give Gooch a clear run at it. Unless Mcadam, Keays and Crocker have all overtaken him?

I'd say Stengle, McAdam, Davis and Crocker are all ahead of Gallucci at the moment. Might be time for a move to defense for him to see what he can offer, last chance

 

[1990crow]

I'd say Stengle, McAdam, Davis and Crocker are all ahead of Gallucci at the moment. Might be time for a move to defense for him to see what he can offer, last chance

Galluci is clearly more talented than Crocker and Davis. McAdam we haven't seen enough of at AFL level to make that call, and Stengle obviously has issues. I'm close to putting a line through him but can't quite say it isn't worth giving him one last chance to give it everything he's got. If he can play a few good AFL games this year there's still time.
I'd also prefer he got games for us to make the call end of year to delist if he doesn't perform.

McAdam should be another season to get his fitness up to AFL standard. Crocker unfortunately may end up in the squad cut range unfairly because he hasn't been given a shot yet despite a very good preseason.

 

[Mutineer]

Galluci is clearly more talented than Crocker and Davis. McAdam we haven't seen enough of at AFL level to make that call, and Stengle obviously has issues. I'm close to putting a line through him but can't quite say it isn't worth giving him one last chance to give it everything he's got. If he can play a few good AFL games this year there's still time.
I'd also prefer he got games for us to make the call end of year to delist if he doesn't perform.

McAdam should be another season to get his fitness up to AFL standard. Crocker unfortunately may end up in the squad cut range unfairly because he hasn't been given a shot yet despite a very good preseason.

Personally I'd be keeping Ben Keays before Crocker for his obvious versatility and endurance.

It will be interesting though what list management decide regards Gallucci and Poholke at season end.

I'd be disappointed for Ayce Taylor if he's not given another year on the rookie list if it still exists going forward.

I take it Footywire is up to date with their contracts

 

[Mego Red]

I think he'll get offered another year too but he shouldn't. I'm at the stage where I would rather see untried players have a crack at it than persisting with Gooch. He just doesn't have it, there's no shame in that.

Hmmm - I would certainly put Gallucci in the untried kid group. He's 21 and has played a handful of games oput of position.

 

[skittlebrew]

Hmmm - I would certainly put Gallucci in the untried kid group. He's 21 and has played a handful of games oput of position.

He's had 27 games, he's had a taste... a big ****ing bite in fact. And shown somewhere between little and nothing.

Time to give other blokes a crack.

 

[DJ75]

He's had 27 games, he's had a taste... a big ******* bite in fact. And shown somewhere between little and nothing.

Time to give other blokes a crack.

He's shown talent, but not the desire to be as good as he can be.
He's overrating himself at the moment and in for a rude shock.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

He's had 27 games, he's had a taste... a big ******* bite in fact. And shown somewhere between little and nothing.

Time to give other blokes a crack.

This is where we have fallen down in the past IMO

Gallucci is at the crossroads no doubt. Has shown something but not a definitive yes/no as a player yet.

This is where a prescient club would make a call.

If we think he could be a good AFL player:
Pick him, back him in, don't let him get caught in the dropped/recalled SANFL shuffle. Persist because we have faith in our own judgement.

If we think it's more likely he'll be an average player:
Zero games. Pick others ahead of him. Delist/trade at end of year. Ignore SANFL form. Have faith in our own judgement.

Previously we've chosen neither of these options. Players get strung along for years, list doesn't develop.

 

[skittlebrew]

Gooch survives because the reality is no one else is beating the door down. We had multiple drafts now with few/none looking like they'll be an A grader let alone elite. In some respects, we need to persist with what we have and hope they turn in to B graders.

I don't watch SANFL but it doesn't exactly sound like he's lighting it up. In which case give his spot to another youngster with potential.

 

[Crow till I die]

He's shown talent, but not the desire to be as good as he can be.
He's overrating himself at the moment and in for a rude shock.

In reality, he is the sort of player that at season's end, maybe we can swap with also moving some later picks around between the clubs with a vic club for one of their fringe players that fills a need for us - someone maybe looking for more opportunity.

 

[DJ75]

In reality, he is the sort of player that at season's end, maybe we can swap with also moving some later picks around between the clubs with a vic club for one of their fringe players that fills a need for us - someone maybe looking for more opportunity.

Has he done anything on field to suggest that a Vic club will want him when lists are reduced? I'm not so sure. Unless he has returned from the lockdown in absolute peak condition, the penny has dropped and he really performs, he is likely to be playing VFL next year.

 

[Mego Red]

Has he done anything on field to suggest that a Vic club will want him when lists are reduced? I'm not so sure. Unless he has returned from the lockdown in absolute peak condition, the penny has dropped and he really performs, he is likely to be playing VFL next year.

I think he's actually looked really good at times, makes good football decisions and is clearly an athlete. He just hasn't gotten involved enough, and I think at least part of that has to be the shitty roles he's been given.

 

[Mego Red]

Of course it might also be that he just doesn't find the football enough.

 

[Thetrader15]

Personally I'd be keeping Ben Keays before Crocker for his obvious versatility and endurance.

It will be interesting though what list management decide regards Gallucci and Poholke at season end.

I'd be disappointed for Ayce Taylor if he's not given another year on the rookie list if it still exists going forward.

I take it Footywire is up to date with their contracts

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I've seen a few times that Hartigan is listed as a RFA...surely not? How can he possibly be in the top 25% of earners at the club?

Edit: Add Rory Atkins to that list as well

Perhaps it is because of all the list changes last year. That's all I can think of

 

[1990crow]

Someone on crowcast last night said Galluci won't play for us again and is gone. Personal reasons.
Interesting how that plays out. Probably wouldn't get much back for him and would end up one of our worst round 1 pick selections since James Sellar in 2006.

 

[Golumless]

He's shown talent, but not the desire to be as good as he can be.
He's overrating himself at the moment and in for a rude shock.

I disagree. He's a kid in a half forward spot and one we've been refusing to give a lot of midfield minutes. Considering that, he's shown enough flashes to be persisted with.

People underrate how much the deck is stacked against anyone selected at half-forward if you aren't giving them a lot of midfield time. You are completely at the whims of pot chance for any offensive production seeing the ball needs to be coming to the forward of midfield area regularly, as well as you've somehow got to actually get targeted. The summary of that is you are not going to get any consistency out of it on the offensive side the spectrum.

How we've managed our youth in the past couple of years have been nothing short of disgusting. Putting older players like Gibbs and Mackay on the half-back line (which is a prime development position seeing half back is the easiest position on the field), and putting players like Jones, Milera (in 2017 and then we stupidly reverted back to it in 2019) and Gallucci on a hiding to nothing in the forward line.

 

[Mutineer]

Someone on crowcast last night said Galluci won't play for us again and is gone. Personal reasons.
Interesting how that plays out. Probably wouldn't get much back for him and would end up one of our worst round 1 pick selections since James Sellar in 2006.

Vic Metro VS Vic Country will always be somewhat of a concern to me. I I think what it boils down to is if it's lineball between a SA lad and an interstate lad you go local, and if it's between a Vic Metro and a Vic Country lad you go for the country lad. Given the largest percentage of draftees will likely always come from the Victorian junior system it makes sense to me. I'd even apply it to Vic Metro VS NSW, Tassie, Qld, WA and NT lads personally.

 

[Mutineer]

I disagree. He's a kid in a half forward spot and one we've been refusing to give a lot of midfield minutes. Considering that, he's shown enough flashes to be persisted with.

People underrate how much the deck is stacked against anyone selected at half-forward if you aren't giving them a lot of midfield time. You are completely at the whims of pot chance for any offensive production seeing the ball needs to be coming to the forward of midfield area regularly, as well as you've somehow got to actually get targeted. The summary of that is you are not going to get any consistency out of it on the offensive side the spectrum.

How we've managed our youth in the past couple of years have been nothing short of disgusting. Putting older players like Gibbs and Mackay on the half-back line (which is a prime development position seeing half back is the easiest position on the field), and putting players like Jones, Milera (in 2017 and then we stupidly reverted back to it in 2019) and Gallucci on a hiding to nothing in the forward line.

Problem is Gallucci has played quite a bit of midfield in the SANFL and has rarely set the house on fire at the level. If we're going to be brutally honest Poholke has been a far superior midfielder at that level.

I'd actually like to see Gallucci tried as a running defender before we rule the line through him.

 

[marvin]

He's had 27 games, he's had a taste... a big ******* bite in fact. And shown somewhere between little and nothing.

Time to give other blokes a crack.

Development happens at different rates for different players.

After 27 games, Tyson Edwards averaged under 11 disposals, had kicked 8 goals, and averaged 1.2 tackles per game. In fact, after 61 games his averages were 10.3 disposals, 1.3 tackles, and less than a goal every 2 games (he also had 2 premiership medals by that stage.

Not saying Gallucci's going to get to peak Edwards levels, but for me he's shown enough to be interesting. But it's time to make a call to either back him in or move on.

 

[BRL121]

Someone on crowcast last night said Galluci won't play for us again and is gone. Personal reasons.
Interesting how that plays out. Probably wouldn't get much back for him and would end up one of our worst round 1 pick selections since James Sellar in 2006.

He's training now.

 

[Deaneus!]

He's shown talent, but not the desire to be as good as he can be.
He's overrating himself at the moment and in for a rude shock.

He's got his tattoo outlines all done and everything!

I've seen him play, I think he's got something. Does he have enough? I dunno, I don't want another Mookay.

But I'd like to see a bunch of games where Campo & Burton weren't pissing in his ear first.

 

[1990crow]

He's training now.

I’m assuming the source mean he will train with us but wont play.