List Mgmt. 2020 List Management, Free Agency & Trade thread

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List Mgmt. - 2020 List Management, Free Agency & Trade thread - Part 2

This Part 2 Continued from Part 1: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2020-list-management-free-agency-trade-thread.1241035/ What type of players does our list need? Pace, Skill, Class and and goal threat. A winger, forward flank and forward pocket are the 3 positions that we need, plus...

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[mightymouse75]

Can't see the club proclaiming said trade without having an in principle agreement ..
We will get paid well for this champions.

 

[wayToGo_]

Do you reckon there is a chance that Langdon could be involved here ? I know he nominated WC, but would probably get more dollars at Freo and a guarantee it gets done to get him back to WA, rather than having to wait

**** I hope not.

 

[Van_Dyke]

Can't see the club proclaiming said trade without having an in principle agreement ..
We will get paid well for this champions.

yeah we'll have some form of in principle agreement, doesn't necessarily mean that we'll be paid well for it though

 

[Superkoops]

Can’t see us getting any more than their pick 39 tbh

They don’t have pick 39 - it is 43.

Listening to Peter Bell sounds like a trade has been agreed and as such whilst they had a brief discussion with a number of clubs involving Cameron and Hogan the request for Jordan Clark

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Jordan Clark

Age

24

Ht

185cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.7

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

4.3

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.6

4star

MG

172.0

3star

D

12.5

3star

K

8.5

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

172.0

3star

D

12.2

3star

K

10.4

4star

HB

1.8

2star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.4

4star

will put that on the back burner for now.

It really has to be a trade directly between GWS and Freo. I’m thinking either the following:
- Straight swap for pick 30 (compo pick GWS received for Corr); or something that improves draft position like
- Hogan, 12, 31 > 10, 30, 43, 73 (value around 35/36 - noting that pick 73 will move up quite a bit prior to draft night and bring that value close to the 30/31 range)

If it is the straight swap for 30 - I could see us then package 30 & 31 to get up into the late 1st round.

 

[Van_Dyke]

fu** I hope not.

would rather ask for de boer back than langdon

 

[Runner159]

I reckon Lloyd Meek has escaped a lot of scrutiny in this discussion around our tall options. We are heading into his 4th year now. He hasn’t played a game yet. I think (based on what other posters are saying) that he’s a pure ruck only, basically another version of Sean Darcy

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Sean Darcy

Age

26

Ht

203cm

Wt

111kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.1

3star

K

3.4

1star

HB

6.6

4star

CL

2.4

4star

HO

28.8

5star

D

6.8

1star

K

2.0

1star

HB

4.8

3star

CL

1.8

4star

HO

20.3

5star

D

11.4

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

6.8

5star

CL

2.6

5star

HO

32.0

5star

. What is the long term strategy for him? After 4 years on the list the club must be visualising that he will play a role in the team in the future. But where exactly? A back up option to Darcy only to be used in emergencies? Could he be moulded into a ruck/forward?
it would be poor list management if he was delisted at the end of next season because we don’t see a role for him beyond just being a back up to Darcy..

Lloyd has been on the cusp of a debut and then injured at the wrong time. He's quite highly rated inside the club, and I'd be surprised if he doesn't debut at some point in 2021.

 

[mightymouse75]

The fact that a player wants to go to gws is in our favour. No campaigner wants to go to gws.

 

[eastfreo75]

we might need him to get to 400 playing as a forward again

In 2018 Mundy played forward in a few games and i felt he did a great job.

Knew when and where to lead.

We could rotate Mundy and Fyfe between forward and midfield.

 

[malpaso]

Cue 12 months of relentless campaigning for firing whoever architected the Hogan trade by club naysayers on here...

 

[Taylor]

Not really going to help us kick more than 8 goals a game though?

Our ball movement inside fifty will be better, our inside fifties are way down on league averages. We don't win enough of the ball at stoppages and we don't put it inside fifty enough, a good winger will help that. Look at how good Aish is putting the ball inside fifty.

A good winger, Young back in the half back line kicking long to him, with a bigger bodied midfielder at the stoppages to win it out. We do better

 

[eastfreo75]

Cue 12 months of relentless campaigning for firing whoever architected the Hogan trade by club naysayers on here...

Wot

 

[Taylor]

Cue 12 months of relentless campaigning for firing whoever architected the Hogan trade by club naysayers on here...

The list manager at that time is already working somewhere else from what I understand

 

[Joao]

It’s an absolute calamity that we turned down Ben King

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Ben King

Age

24

Ht

202cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.2

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

3.5

4star

T

0.5

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

7.5

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

0.3

1star

G

1.5

5star

D

6.8

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.2

4star

T

0.2

3star

G

1.0

4star

for this bloke. And are left with sweet fu** all after 2 years. Horrendous is the only word to describe this shambles.

Its the first decision that was terrible. Everything after that is just trying to make the best of an awful situation.

Everybody now gets to sweat on every B.King contract so that when he goes back to Victoria everyone can say, "see I told you he would leave".

 

[CapitalA]

Its the first decision that was terrible. Everything after that is just trying to make the best of an awful situation.

Everybody now gets to sweat on every B.King contract so that when he goes back to Victoria everyone can say, "see I told you he would leave".

I'm more sweating that Taberner doesn't get injured and leave us with a Lobb solo KPF show.

 

[malpaso]

Wot

The list manager at that time is already working somewhere else from what I understand

Yeah I know but this board will be full of rage about it, club is moving on (best decision) we should as well.

 

[Square Peg]

Bloody awful news. We are a joke sometimes.

 

[guidodp15]

Do trade radio thinks we need a small forward ahaha

 

[freo1997]

Any chance we get that Pearce guy or Himmerberg in exchange?

 

[Deathly]

Do trade radio thinks we need a small forward ahaha

These guys are idiots. I think moving Hogan on so casually means we're going to try and set-up something with our abundance of small forwards, especially if we don't bring someone back in as a direct replacement.

 

[Cesoir]

Bloody awful news. We are a joke sometimes.

This is a bit mild for you

 

[Deathly]

Any chance we get that Pearce guy or Himmerberg in exchange?

No way we get Himmelberg or any player from GWS. The goal of GWS this off-season seems to be experience > youth.

 

[Bicco]

Does it seem odd we have agreed with GWS prior to the TP even starting? My thinking would be it would have to be a first to be accepted this early especially with multiple interested parties.

Or there are several underlying issues no one knows about.

I don't think it's too odd. My take is that they've agreed to do the deal, just not what the deal is. As GWS are negotiating with Geelong, their position isn't settled yet and so both party's have agreed to wait and see how things unfold for GWS. I would also add that it would be likely (IMO) that we have offered our 'services' to enable the GWS/Geelong trade to eventuate i.e. throwing our hat in the ring for a 3 way trade if needed. IMO we'll either get Clark out of Geelong or picks out of GWS.

 

[Square Peg]

This is a bit mild for you

Why do you say that? The vitriol directed towards a player that can actually play on here beggars belief, far greater than anything I have directed at the club for not being able to manage him, or others

 

[freo1997]

No way we get Himmelberg or any player from GWS. The goal of GWS this off-season seems to be experience > youth.

and no Mihocek too.....Constable from Geelong?

 

[Square Peg]

Anyway I think I need a bit of time to digest how much this is going to screw us moving forward. I'll leave the glee seekers to it for a bit