Prediction 2021 Draft Predictions

[Lore]

For those who aren’t quite in a position to do a full phantom draft, but who would still like to have a go at predicting the draft, please use this thread to post your predictions

The current draft order is available in the pinned thread, here:

Resource - 2021 AFL Draft Order

Every trade as it happens!

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In accordance with board rules, phantom drafts which do not fulfil the requirements of a full first round using the current draft order (at time of posting), and preferably with a bit of explanation and willingness to explain your decisions, may also be merged into this thread.

Following the Trade Period, the current order for the first round of the draft is:

1. North Melbourne
2. GWS Giants
3. Gold Coast Suns
4. Adelaide
5. Hawthorn
6. Fremantle
7. Richmond
8. Fremantle
9. St Kilda
10. West Coast Eagles
11. Essendon
12. Port Adelaide
13. GWS Giants
14. Brisbane Lions
15. Richmond
16. Sydney Swans
17. Melbourne
18. Brisbane Lions

 

[AusTerran]

Do Adelaide take Andrew with pick 4 if he’s available?

Ummm.. No. Need Mids with speed/X-factor maybe a small forward, but like to think we can get one later in the draft or maybe next year.

 

[Thetrader15]

Ummm.. No. Need Mids with speed/X-factor maybe a small forward, but like to think we can get one later in the draft or maybe next year.

There's an argument that Andrew is a mid with speed and X-Factor, I'd be happy with taking him at 4 (6)

 

[Blackhawk42]

I've never attempted a top 30 phantom before. Took a few days of tweaking but i've ended up the following selections.

Based on statistical research, some (very) base level list analysis, expert phantom drafts, highlights and a couple of state games. Plus my own (again, very base level) player rankings.


1. North Melbourne - Jason Horne-Francis
2. Collingwood - Nick Daicos

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3. GWS Giants - Finn Callaghan
4. Western Bulldogs - Sam Darcy
5. Gold Coast Suns - Mac Andrew
6. Adelaide - Josh Rachele
7. Hawthorn - Josh Ward
8. Fremantle - Neil Erasmus
9. Richmond - Ben Hobbs
10. Fremantle - Jye Amiss
11. St.Kilda - Josh Sinn
12. West Coast - Matthew Johnson
13. Essendon - Nasiah Wangerneen-Milera
14. Port Adelaide - Josh Goater
15. Geelong (trade 22 and 30 and exchange 2022 first round selections with GWS for 13) - Tyler Sonsie
16. Brisbane - Josh Gibcus
17. Richmond - Zac Taylor
18. Sydney - Arlo Draper
19. Melbourne - Darcy Wilmot
20. Brisbane - Sam Butler

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21. Fremantle - Mitch Knevitt
22. St.Kilda (matching bid) Mitch Owens
23. North Melbourne - Jacob Van Rooyen
24. Hawthorn - Campbell Chesser
25. GWS - Rhett Bazzo
26. Western Bulldogs - Blake Howes
27. Hawthorn - Judson Clarke
28. Carlton - Jack Williams
29. Richmond - Matthew Roberts
30. Richmond - Ned Long

 

[Jen2310]

I've never attempted a top 30 phantom before. Took a few days of tweaking but i've ended up the following selections.

Based on statistical research, some (very) base level list analysis, expert phantom drafts, highlights and a couple of state games. Plus my own (again, very base level) player rankings.


1. North Melbourne - Jason Horne-Francis
2. Collingwood - Josh Daicos
3. GWS Giants - Finn Callaghan
4. Western Bulldogs - Sam Darcy
5. Gold Coast Suns - Mac Andrew
6. Adelaide - Josh Rachele
7. Hawthorn - Josh Ward
8. Fremantle - Neil Erasmus
9. Richmond - Ben Hobbs
10. Fremantle - Jye Amiss
11. St.Kilda - Josh Sinn
12. West Coast - Matthew Johnson
13. Essendon - Nasiah Wangerneen-Milera
14. Port Adelaide - Josh Goater
15. Geelong (trade 22 and 30 and exchange 2022 first round selections with GWS for 13) - Tyler Sonsie
16. Brisbane - Josh Gibcus
17. Richmond - Zac Taylor
18. Sydney - Arlo Draper
19. Melbourne - Darcy Wilmot
20. Brisbane - Sam Butler
21. Fremantle - Mitch Knevitt
22. St.Kilda (matching bid) Mitch Owens
23. North Melbourne - Jacob Van Rooyen
24. Hawthorn - Campbell Chesser
25. GWS - Rhett Bazzo
26. Western Bulldogs - Blake Howes
27. Hawthorn - Judson Clarke
28. Carlton - Jack Williams
29. Richmond - Matthew Roberts
30. Richmond - Ned Long

*Nick Daicos.

Lots of Josh's in the draft, it's easy to get confused.

I don't think Gibcus is making it past GWS or GC

 

[blueiris]

I've never attempted a top 30 phantom before. Took a few days of tweaking but i've ended up the following selections.

Based on statistical research, some (very) base level list analysis, expert phantom drafts, highlights and a couple of state games. Plus my own (again, very base level) player rankings.


1. North Melbourne - Jason Horne-Francis
2. Collingwood - Josh Daicos
3. GWS Giants - Finn Callaghan
4. Western Bulldogs - Sam Darcy
5. Gold Coast Suns - Mac Andrew
6. Adelaide - Josh Rachele
7. Hawthorn - Josh Ward
8. Fremantle - Neil Erasmus
9. Richmond - Ben Hobbs
10. Fremantle - Jye Amiss
11. St.Kilda - Josh Sinn
12. West Coast - Matthew Johnson
13. Essendon - Nasiah Wangerneen-Milera
14. Port Adelaide - Josh Goater
15. Geelong (trade 22 and 30 and exchange 2022 first round selections with GWS for 13) - Tyler Sonsie
16. Brisbane - Josh Gibcus
17. Richmond - Zac Taylor
18. Sydney - Arlo Draper
19. Melbourne - Darcy Wilmot
20. Brisbane - Sam Butler
21. Fremantle - Mitch Knevitt
22. St.Kilda (matching bid) Mitch Owens
23. North Melbourne - Jacob Van Rooyen
24. Hawthorn - Campbell Chesser
25. GWS - Rhett Bazzo
26. Western Bulldogs - Blake Howes
27. Hawthorn - Judson Clarke
28. Carlton - Jack Williams
29. Richmond - Matthew Roberts
30. Richmond - Ned Long

Interesting you have the Lions taking the Slider and Bolter of the draft in Gicbus and Butler

 

[Blackhawk42]

*Nick Daicos.

Lots of Josh's in the draft, it's easy to get confused.

I don't think Gibcus is making it past GWS or GC

Haha, yep, i've had the name Josh on the brain putting this together.

Simple reason for ranking Gibcus where I did.

I rate this draft stronger at the top end than last seasons.

I don't rate Gibcus as highly as DGB who is a player of a similar mould.

Denver went at the 5th live pick. Was honestly hard to justify having Gibcus higher than where I did.

I feel as though GWS take the best available in Callaghan, while the Suns look at taking a project X-Factor tall who can play anywhere.

I'm definitely not expert, so expect Gibcus to go higher than where I have him and to be a gun for 15 years.

 

[briztoon]

Interesting you have the Lions taking the Slider and Bolter of the draft in Gicbus and Butler

I don’t believe Butler is a bolter. Has been there abouts for much of the season.

 

[blueiris]

I don’t believe Butler is a bolter. Has been there abouts for much of the season.

First time I’ve seen him top 20 not that I think he’s a need though

 

[Blackhawk42]

Interesting you have the Lions taking the Slider and Bolter of the draft in Gicbus and Butler

I like that combination for the Lions. I rate Butler from what i've seen of him. Think he could be a similar player to Zac Bailey and if you had both on the same team you'd be laughing.

Edit: Could be a long term Zorko replacement.

 

[blueiris]

I like that combination for the Lions. I rate Butler from what i've seen of him. Think he could be a similar player to Zac Bailey and if you had both on the same team you'd be laughing.

Edit: Could be a long term Zorko replacement.

I would be hoping that’s what Rayner is projected to become

 

[Jen2310]

Haha, yep, i've had the name Josh on the brain putting this together.

Simple reason for ranking Gibcus where I did.

I rate this draft stronger at the top end than last seasons.

I don't rate Gibcus as highly as DGB who is a player of a similar mould.

Denver went at the 5th live pick. Was honestly hard to justify having Gibcus higher than where I did.

I feel as though GWS take the best available in Callaghan, while the Suns look at taking a project X-Factor tall who can play anywhere.

I'm definitely not expert, so expect Gibcus to go higher than where I have him and to be a gun for 15 years.

Fair enough.
I think come draft time we'll see Gibcus go high, whether its's GWS who will bid on Darcy (if they bid on anyone) because they have said about their need for quality talls, which logically, you'd then go for the next best tall, which is Gibcus. They say he is the best key defender in the draft,

I'm not convinced GC will go with a project player at their only pick. Feels like, given their need to improve, they'll go for the sure thing. Whether that's Callahan (would suit nicely with their young stars, and his sandringham coach, now Suns VFL coach) or Gibcus if GWS go for Callahan or even Rachele (whom they are looking at) because GC need another key defender.

GWS have said they rate players differently given their retention issues, so they have changed their strategy with needs, whom will be in their best 22. And not someone that would be stuck behind a stacked midfield, and then likely to leave 2 years later.

But who knows, you could be right. We're all just guessing at this point.

 

[pK75]

I've never attempted a top 30 phantom before. Took a few days of tweaking but i've ended up the following selections.

Based on statistical research, some (very) base level list analysis, expert phantom drafts, highlights and a couple of state games. Plus my own (again, very base level) player rankings.


1. North Melbourne - Jason Horne-Francis
2. Collingwood - Nick Daicos
3. GWS Giants - Finn Callaghan
4. Western Bulldogs - Sam Darcy
5. Gold Coast Suns - Mac Andrew
6. Adelaide - Josh Rachele
7. Hawthorn - Josh Ward
8. Fremantle - Neil Erasmus
9. Richmond - Ben Hobbs
10. Fremantle - Jye Amiss
11. St.Kilda - Josh Sinn
12. West Coast - Matthew Johnson
13. Essendon - Nasiah Wangerneen-Milera
14. Port Adelaide - Josh Goater
15. Geelong (trade 22 and 30 and exchange 2022 first round selections with GWS for 13) - Tyler Sonsie
16. Brisbane - Josh Gibcus
17. Richmond - Zac Taylor
18. Sydney - Arlo Draper
19. Melbourne - Darcy Wilmot
20. Brisbane - Sam Butler
21. Fremantle - Mitch Knevitt
22. St.Kilda (matching bid) Mitch Owens
23. North Melbourne - Jacob Van Rooyen
24. Hawthorn - Campbell Chesser
25. GWS - Rhett Bazzo
26. Western Bulldogs - Blake Howes
27. Hawthorn - Judson Clarke
28. Carlton - Jack Williams
29. Richmond - Matthew Roberts
30. Richmond - Ned Long

There’s no way Freo select Knevitt if JVR is still on the table.

 

[Mego Red]

There's an argument that Andrew is a mid with speed and X-Factor, I'd be happy with taking him at 4 (6)

A mid what?

 

[Blackhawk42]

There’s no way Freo select Knevitt if JVR is still on the table.

You'd probably know better than I would, of course.

I looked at Freos future without Mundy and Fyfe and considered those two big bodied mids (Knevitt and Erasmus) as an excellent replacement duo and nice compliment to Brayshaw and Serong.

 

[blueiris]

A mid what?

Twomey was saying he saw Andrew more like a Nic Cox type tall midfielder

 

[latinoheat]

my first round prediction. I think GWS will trade down to 3. Gold Coast won’t bid on any father/son.
GWS will then bid on Darcy first , then Daicos, then pick their man .

1. North Melbourne - Jason Horne-Francis
2. Gold Coast - Finn Callaghan (trade with GWS , GWS gets a future pick)
3. Western Bulldogs - Sam Darcy
4. Collingwood - Nick Daicos
5. GWS- Gibcus
6. Richmond - Hobbs (trade with crows)
7. Hawthorn- Ward
8. Fremantle- Amiss
9. Adelaide - Sinn
10. Fremantle - Johnson
11. St kilda - Rachele
12. West Coast - Erasmus
13. Essendon - Nasiah Wanganeen
14. Port Adelaide - Goater
15. GWS - Mac Andrew
16. Brisbane - chesser
17. Richmond - Wilmot
18. Sydney - Sonsie
19. Melbourne- Draper
20. Brisbane - Howes

 

[briztoon]

my first round prediction. I think GWS will trade down to 3. Gold Coast won’t bid on any father/son.
GWS will then bid on Darcy first , then Daicos, then pick their man .

1. North Melbourne - Jason Horne-Francis
2. Gold Coast - Finn Callaghan (trade with GWS , GWS gets a future pick)
3. Western Bulldogs - Sam Darcy
4. Collingwood - Nick Daicos
5. GWS- Gibcus
6. Richmond - Hobbs (trade with crows)
7. Hawthorn- Ward
8. Fremantle- Amiss
9. Adelaide - Sinn
10. Fremantle - Johnson
11. St kilda - Rachele
12. West Coast - Erasmus
13. Essendon - Nasiah Wanganeen
14. Port Adelaide - Goater
15. GWS - Mac Andrew
16. Brisbane - chesser
17. Richmond - Wilmot
18. Sydney - Sonsie

You missed the last two picks of round 1.

 

[RUNVS]

my first round prediction. I think GWS will trade down to 3. Gold Coast won’t bid on any father/son.
GWS will then bid on Darcy first , then Daicos, then pick their man .

1. North Melbourne - Jason Horne-Francis
2. Gold Coast - Finn Callaghan (trade with GWS , GWS gets a future pick)
3. Western Bulldogs - Sam Darcy
4. Collingwood - Nick Daicos
5. GWS- Gibcus
6. Richmond - Hobbs (trade with crows)
7. Hawthorn- Ward
8. Fremantle- Amiss
9. Adelaide - Sinn
10. Fremantle - Johnson
11. St kilda - Rachele
12. West Coast - Erasmus
13. Essendon - Nasiah Wanganeen
14. Port Adelaide - Goater
15. GWS - Mac Andrew
16. Brisbane - chesser
17. Richmond - Wilmot
18. Sydney - Sonsie

I would very happily take Sonsie.

 

[latinoheat]

You missed the last two picks of round 1.

My bad. Now updated

 

[Lord of the Wings]

Thought I would get a little creative and go against alot of expected selections. Lots of good players available into the 30s

1. North Melbourne - Jason Horne-Francis
2. Collingwood - Daicos
3. GWS Giants - Finn Callaghan
4. Western Bulldogs - Sam Darcy
5. Gold Coast Suns - Gibcus
6. Adelaide - Josh Rachele
7. Hawthorn - Mac Andrew
8. Fremantle - Matt Johnson
9. Richmond - Hobbs
10. Fremantle - NWM
11. St.Kilda - Ward
12. West Coast - Erasmus
13. Essendon - Goater
14. Port Adelaide - Howes
15. GWS - Draper
16. Brisbane - Brown
17. Richmond - Amiss
18. Sydney - Angus Sheldrick
19. Melbourne - Jacob Van Rooyen
20. Brisbane - Goater
21. Fremantle - Warner
22. St.Kilda (matching bid) Mitch Owens
23. North Melbourne - Alleer
24. Hawthorn - Sonsie
25. GWS - Bazzo
26. Western Bulldogs - Motlop
27. Hawthorn - MacDonald
28. Carlton - Knevitt
29. Richmond - Wilmot
30. Richmond - Chesser
31. Richmond - Arthur Jones
32. West Coast - Dittmar
33. Geelong - Taylor
34. Adelaide - Roberts
35. Geelong - Conway
36. West Coast - Clarke

Missed Fahey - likely top 20 pick.

 

[Swiggy]

Thought I would get a little creative and go against alot of expected selections. Lots of good players available into the 30s

1. North Melbourne - Jason Horne-Francis
2. Collingwood - Daicos
3. GWS Giants - Finn Callaghan
4. Western Bulldogs - Sam Darcy
5. Gold Coast Suns - Gibcus
6. Adelaide - Josh Rachele
7. Hawthorn - Mac Andrew
8. Fremantle - Matt Johnson
9. Richmond - Hobbs
10. Fremantle - NWM
11. St.Kilda - Ward
12. West Coast - Erasmus
13. Essendon - Goater
14. Port Adelaide - Howes
15. GWS - Draper
16. Brisbane - Brown
17. Richmond - Amiss
18. Sydney - Angus Sheldrick
19. Melbourne - Jacob Van Rooyen
20. Brisbane - Goater
21. Fremantle - Warner
22. St.Kilda (matching bid) Mitch Owens
23. North Melbourne - Alleer
24. Hawthorn - Sonsie
25. GWS - Bazzo
26. Western Bulldogs - Motlop
27. Hawthorn - MacDonald
28. Carlton - Knevitt
29. Richmond - Wilmot
30. Richmond - Chesser
31. Richmond - Arthur Jones
32. West Coast - Dittmar
33. Geelong - Taylor
34. Adelaide - Roberts
35. Geelong - Conway
36. West Coast - Clarke

Wouldn’t be upset with Johnson & NWM but freo would definitely take a tall at 21 if they did that

 

[Revan11]

Thought I would get a little creative and go against alot of expected selections. Lots of good players available into the 30s

1. North Melbourne - Jason Horne-Francis
2. Collingwood - Daicos
3. GWS Giants - Finn Callaghan
4. Western Bulldogs - Sam Darcy
5. Gold Coast Suns - Gibcus
6. Adelaide - Josh Rachele
7. Hawthorn - Mac Andrew
8. Fremantle - Matt Johnson
9. Richmond - Hobbs
10. Fremantle - NWM
11. St.Kilda - Ward
12. West Coast - Erasmus
13. Essendon - Goater
14. Port Adelaide - Howes
15. GWS - Draper
16. Brisbane - Brown
17. Richmond - Amiss
18. Sydney - Angus Sheldrick
19. Melbourne - Jacob Van Rooyen
20. Brisbane - Goater
21. Fremantle - Warner
22. St.Kilda (matching bid) Mitch Owens
23. North Melbourne - Alleer
24. Hawthorn - Sonsie
25. GWS - Bazzo
26. Western Bulldogs - Motlop
27. Hawthorn - MacDonald
28. Carlton - Knevitt
29. Richmond - Wilmot
30. Richmond - Chesser
31. Richmond - Arthur Jones
32. West Coast - Dittmar
33. Geelong - Taylor
34. Adelaide - Roberts
35. Geelong - Conway
36. West Coast - Clarke

Sinn goes in top 20

 

[chopflop]

Missed Fahey - likely top 20 pick.

Yeh I know... just couldnt be bothered. He will go to GWS somewhere in there

Sinn goes in top 20

Knew id miss a few. Probs won't get past port Adelaide. I may have to start again with a list lol

 

[year of the cat]

Thought I would get a little creative and go against alot of expected selections. Lots of good players available into the 30s

1. North Melbourne - Jason Horne-Francis
2. Collingwood - Daicos
3. GWS Giants - Finn Callaghan
4. Western Bulldogs - Sam Darcy
5. Gold Coast Suns - Gibcus
6. Adelaide - Josh Rachele
7. Hawthorn - Mac Andrew
8. Fremantle - Matt Johnson
9. Richmond - Hobbs
10. Fremantle - NWM
11. St.Kilda - Ward
12. West Coast - Erasmus
13. Essendon - Goater
14. Port Adelaide - Howes
15. GWS - Draper
16. Brisbane - Brown
17. Richmond - Amiss
18. Sydney - Angus Sheldrick
19. Melbourne - Jacob Van Rooyen
20. Brisbane - Goater
21. Fremantle - Warner
22. St.Kilda (matching bid) Mitch Owens
23. North Melbourne - Alleer
24. Hawthorn - Sonsie
25. GWS - Bazzo
26. Western Bulldogs - Motlop
27. Hawthorn - MacDonald
28. Carlton - Knevitt
29. Richmond - Wilmot
30. Richmond - Chesser
31. Richmond - Arthur Jones
32. West Coast - Dittmar
33. Geelong - Taylor
34. Adelaide - Roberts
35. Geelong - Conway
36. West Coast - Clarke

Where’s Cats first pick gone?

 

[chopflop]

Where’s Cats first pick gone?

Will try again tomorrow. With all the picks this time