Analysis 2021 draft thread

[MacMum]

Ok, just read an article in Ballarat Courier re the boys up for draft from St Pats there.....The director of footy had huge wraps on Lohmann, said whoever takes him will get lots of excitement from him for years to come. Also said he had very high footy I.Q......got a bit technical and I can't remember it all but that was the gist of it..

Happy with that.

 

[Mighty Lions]

There isn’t a pick exchange where you can trade picks for any other combination of picks. Other clubs actually need to be looking to move up. There appeared to be no action on the phones at our pick or the few picks before hand.

Most of the trades are relatively inconsequential shuffling of later picks.

Clubs making the strategic jump up the order to snap up a shock slider are relatively rare. We are in fact one of the few to do so.

There was quite a bit of negotiating going on but nothing coming to anything that The Lions wanted to agree to other than to do what they did. Suffice to say, our club is pleased with their selections thus far in the draft.

 

[Elixuh]

Fairly disappointing night all round. Way too much of the telecast had elapsed before we even made our first pick. Would prefer that we are making picks in the first 30 minutes of the telecast so I can turn the tv off shortly after.

I quite like that our recruiters have a clear strategy and execute it. The comments of one or two in here are genuinely embarrassing, imagine letting a random draw ruin the picnic

 

[WhiteLionFeva]

Two days before the Draft Twomey said this:
Brisbane's business will mainly be done early, with the Lions set to have only one more pick after their pair of first-round selections. If sharp goalkicker Kai Lohmann happened to be on the board at their third pick he would be a consideration, while Eamon Wilkinson, a small forward who they considered at the mid-season rookie draft, has also garnered some interest. Bryce Watson is a medium defender who could be within a shot late, as may Jamieson Ballantyne, a taller wingman from the Greater Western Victoria Rebels.

 

[Nunez]

briztoon legitimately though would love to hear your thoughts after the draft function.

 

[SizeMatters]

Can anyone justify the need to spend an early pick on a small forward?

Ask the recruiters?

 

[The Zork]

Getting upset about not picking from a select group of young kids because you’ve convinced yourself we need to on back of what is largely amateur speculation because “tHaT’s wHo iS tHe NeXt bEsT pLaYeR aVaiLabLe” is comical.

Players who people have likely never seen play live let alone multiple games over 2-3 years, never interviewed or been privy to an interview featuring them.

Most likely are unsure what they even look like and I’m almost certain wouldn’t of even heard of until probably a month ago, maybe less.

Dearie me.

 

[CuttlefishMcfly]

Went to the Lions draft night function at the Gabba tonight.

We had Darcy Wilmot rated at 11 and Kai Lohmann at 14, we got exactly who the recruiters wanted.

I've seen Lohmann play and he reminds me of Patrick Dangerfield... Lots of pace, hard at it and can stand up in tackles. Not the best kick but will make things happen.

 

[M Malice]

We wont be taking an inside mid tomorrow night, the club says we have enough.... inside is covered, Joyce was let go reluctantly as they still rated him.

 

[SizeMatters]

Getting upset about not picking from a select group of young kids because you’ve convinced yourself we need to on back of what is largely amateur speculation because “tHaT’s wHo iS tHe NeXt bEsT pLaYeR aVaiLabLe” is comical.

Players who people have likely never seen play live let alone multiple games over 2-3 years, never interviewed or been privy to an interview featuring them.

Most likely are unsure what they even look like and I’m almost certain wouldn’t of even heard of until probably a month ago, maybe less.

Dearie me.

a 2 minute highlight video is all you need to be an expert mate. Didn't you know?

I'm happy with the picks. Stoked even.

 

[Nunez]

Can anyone justify the need to spend an early pick on a small forward?

Calm your farm mate. We didn't pick Lohman as a small forward. Lots of scope for growth and a genuine high half forward/wing potential.

Genuinely man, take a breather.

 

[The Zork]

a 2 minute highlight video is all you need to be an expert mate. Didn't you know?

I'm happy with the picks. Stoked even.

Likewise.

 

[M Malice]

It wouldn't be draft night without a delicious melt, thanks jack.

It's past my bedtime, night night, time to rest up for tomorrow night.

 

[Fagenslions36]

Wilmont highlight reel had a run where he just sliced and diced through the defence looks an absolute beauty . Having someone who can run and carry and also shut down makes you absolutely critical . Can see him and kosi Pickett having some great tussles over the year . Pace is also what we have cried out for and with Wilmont and even madden we now have plenty of that . Kai looks a bit more of a Smokey but happy to back recruiters in . Has good athletics attributes and mercurial skills so plenty of upside : remember we have a young midfield potentially of Rayner , clugga , Berry , Bailey , Robertson , sharp , and young Ashcroft still to come next year . Starcevich May also be added to that mix . Johnson May of been a nice addition to have that mix but we will see how it all unfolds .

 

[BRAB]

Why did we pick the player I've never seen play instead of the player I've never seen play?

 

[jackess]

Calm your farm mate. We didn't pick Lohman as a small forward. Lots of scope for growth and a genuine high half forward/wing potential.

Genuinely man, take a breather.

That’s still an issue and a huge risk. I don’t think we’re in a position to do this given we’ve added bugger all talent in the last 3 drafts. Picking someone who hasn’t even performed a role well at under 18 level and expecting him to develop there instead of drafting someone who did play that role reasonably well is a big gamble

 

[Cubs2Lions]

We wont be taking an inside mid tomorrow night, the club says we have enough.... inside is covered, Joyce was let go reluctantly as they still rated him.

Hopefully the arrival of Ashcroft next year can at least help mend that gap in our midfield for 2023+ but it's a mighty shame for Joyce cause I think all of us on here believed the kid could have been a good player for us in the future, but given list spots and everything else that happened, he was sadly a unlucky player that had to be delisted at our club this year.

 

[Sproj]

The other thing to remember is that this year was Covid affected, it is a totally understandable time to go against the grain. Both kids sound great and to have a dude who would have been possibly a first pick of the year after if he was born slightly later is an amazing result. The second guy seems to also have massive upside and that is cool with me.

 

[ULittleBeauty]

Can anyone justify the need to spend an early pick on a small forward?

Why not if he is anything like Bayley Fritsch or Isaac Heeney

 

[Nunez]

That’s still an issue and a huge risk. I don’t think we’re in a position to do this given we’ve added bugger all talent in the last 3 drafts. Picking someone who hasn’t even performed a role well at under 18 level and expecting him to develop there instead of drafting someone who did play that role reasonably well is a big gamble

How much Footage have you seen of Kai? Watched any of his games?

 

[Lions1024]

The more I think about it, the more I like our picks. I won't profess to be a draft expert and to be honest I've only started following this years draft the past two weeks but Darcy Wilmot was the player that stood out the most to me. I commented earlier but he strikes me as a similar player to Elliot Yeo

6

Elliot Yeo

Age

31

Ht

191cm

Wt

91kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.5

5star

K

11.7

4star

HB

7.8

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

4.5

5star

CL

3.0

4star

D

18.9

4star

K

10.9

4star

HB

8.0

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

5.8

5star

CL

5.5

5star

D

16.6

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

7.2

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

0.6

3star

CL

1.4

4star

. Darcy has raw athletic ability, toughness / attack on the ball and is willing to take risks. Three attributes that work really well in our game plan and translates well to any position.

Think it's much the same with Kai Lohmann. Has attributes that translates well to our game plan.

It's interesting to see how clubs view draftees. I think recruiters are increasingly not looking at the complete player - they'll look at a select number of attributes (e.g. the strengths) and weigh those attributes more heavily based on game plan / strategy.

 

[briztoon]

Just out of interest, where did they have Johnson and Goater.
I wasn’t a massive fan of Goater but I really liked Johnson.

We were asked not to discuss stuff on social media until after the draft.

Considering we might trade in to tomorrow night, I don’t believe it’s appropriate to discuss certain stuff here, seeing as recruiters and staff read these threads.

 

[briztoon]

Goater not mentioned, IIRC Johnson is next on our board who is still available.

Interesting that we draft for need more than best available now.

Goater was mentioned.

Johnson is not next on our list, of the players still available.

 

[Mutineer]

Can anyone justify the need to spend an early pick on a small forward?

Take it from me he's a ripper, I'm just pissed he didn't get through to us at #33, the Berry boys and Hughey will know him, all played with Kai's brother Jacob at the Rebels, Jacob's a pretty handy footballer too but Kai has X factor in spades, speed, agility and stunning aerial ability and loves turning defenders inside out with his moves. You couldn't handle another Lincoln McCarthy?

 

[jackess]

Why not if he is anything like Bayley Fritsch or Isaac Heeney

And ESmith might be good if he turns out like Dangerfield