List Mgmt. 2021 Trade, FA and Draft Chat

[Cameron_Jezza]

Means we have 6 spots for them.

Congrats on the flag. I would suggest trading your 2022r2 for richmond pick 40,44 to get the picks to help fill your 6 lost spots.

 

[The Dr]

The more I think about our list management, the more I'm thinking we will be super quiet this offseason at least - we are going to have to pay Jackson, Kozi, Rivers big contracts in years to come.

Only way I see us making plays for big (ish) names is if we trade some out.

 

[Dogga6]

The more I think about our list management, the more I'm thinking we will be super quiet this offseason at least - we are going to have to pay Jackson, Kozi, Rivers big contracts in years to come.

Only way I see us making plays for big (ish) names is if we trade some out.

Yeah we could be?

But then I see reports that we actually showed genuine interest in Cerra and now looking at Gunston. I don't think we'll bring in any big names, but could still end up with 1 or 2 solid players that can come in and play solid role.

The Weideman one will be interesting. I think he'll go, but what's he worth?

 

[The Dr]

Yeah we could be?

But then I see reports that we actually showed genuine interest in Cerra and now looking at Gunston. I don't think we'll bring in any big names, but could still end up with 1 or 2 solid players that can come in and play solid role.

The Weideman one will be interesting. I think he'll go, but what's he worth?

I reckon Weid is probably worth a mid second rounder at best TBH.

 

[Dogga6]

I reckon Weid is probably worth a mid second rounder at best TBH.

Yeah I'm thinking mid to late as well.

 

[Devastating Boris]

The Weideman one will be interesting. I think he'll go, but what's he worth?

Not a lot going around about Weid. General consensus seems to be the Dees playing the old “he’s a required player” card and interested teams being “not that interested”.

This has the feel of going late in trade week (if at all). Nth will be keen on a swap for 38 and the Dees want 20.

Pies might come late but Dees will want more than 36. Maynard probably fits the bill for both teams given pies still need to offload $1M.

Apparently GC keen on Weid and would give up 19 but doesnt sound like he wants to leave Victoria.

 

[Dogga6]

Not a lot going around about Weid. General consensus seems to be the Dees playing the old “he’s a required player” card and interested teams being “not that interested”.

This has the feel of going late in trade week (if at all). Nth will be keen on a swap for 38 and the Dees want 20.

Pies might come late but Dees will want more than 36. Maynard probably fits the bill for both teams given pies still need to offload $1M.

Apparently GC keen on Weid and would give up 19 but doesnt sound like he wants to leave Victoria.

19 for Weideman would be a steal..

 

[ImissFrosty]

Not a lot going around about Weid. General consensus seems to be the Dees playing the old “he’s a required player” card and interested teams being “not that interested”.

This has the feel of going late in trade week (if at all). Nth will be keen on a swap for 38 and the Dees want 20.

Pies might come late but Dees will want more than 36. Maynard probably fits the bill for both teams given pies still need to offload $1M.

Apparently GC keen on Weid and would give up 19 but doesnt sound like he wants to leave Victoria.

****ing weed you greedy ****ing bastard. move to gold coast you prick

 

[Dory_77]

******* weed you greedy ******* bastard. move to gold coast you prick

A good looking fella like him would kill it up there.
We could crowd fund him to move.

 

[Devastating Boris]

19 for Weideman would be a steal..

Yeah it’s a shame because GC know they have to give overs. GC now at the stage of over paying with trade value but not in salary (as they have to pay their future stars to stay)

Edit: GC will also get in shit with the AFL if they keep these draft picks they were given to trade for this type of scenario.

 

[00Stinger]

Graham Wright on Weid

 

[GatesOfHell]

Graham Wright on Weid

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Pies are keen I reckon.

Weid for Maynard we’d be doing cartwheels.

 

[SugarHealey]

47 goals and a spot in the AA squad not good enough?

Finals footy is a different beast.

 

[00Stinger]

Pies are keen I reckon.

Weid for Maynard we’d be doing cartwheels.

What cost us a bit more though

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[SugarHealey]

Jesus Christ no. Might as well get someone off this board who's tall and heavy on the rookie list. Casboult is cooked and if we're relying on him to fill a key spot when contending, so are we.

He's one of the strongest marks in the league.
Based on that alone, he would be worth a rookie spot. If bBrown goes down, we have no full forward; only rucks.

I would be willing to try Petty as a possible hMcKay impersonator.

 

[Fitzey]

Finals footy is a different beast.

It’s a bit early to make a call on how he’s played in a finals series before he’s played it.

 

[SugarHealey]

Jesus Christ no. Might as well get someone off this board who's tall and heavy on the rookie list. Casboult is cooked and if we're relying on him to fill a key spot when contending, so are we.

People replied with disdain to my suggesting we look to recruit 2Meter Peter, or bBrown the other year, ahead of us finally recruiting Brown last year.
And 2Meter is going gangbusters atmo.

People also scoffed at my suggestion of recruiting Luke Jackson months ahead of the draft.

Same again when I suggested we recruit small running players to break the flood and presses, a couple of years before Richmond did it, and they turned the direction of the AFL when they did it, and went on Premiership runs.

 

[GatesOfHell]

What cost us a bit more though

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Probably, although the Filth might weigh that against the cap pressure they’re still apparently under. Weid would save them $300k a year compared to Maynard’s wage.

 

[SugarHealey]

The more I think about our list management, the more I'm thinking we will be super quiet this offseason at least - we are going to have to pay Jackson, Kozi, Rivers big contracts in years to come.

Only way I see us making plays for big (ish) names is if we trade some out.

Off the list soon. Melksham, mBrown, Jetta, Hibberd, Nate Jones, that's a fair bit of cap space there.

And with possible future trade outs, a lot is possible, [ Hunt, Harmes ]???

 

[Dory_77]

He's one of the strongest marks in the league.
Based on that alone, he would be worth a rookie spot. If bBrown goes down, we have no full forward; only rucks.

I would be willing to try Petty as a possible hMcKay impersonator.

We have MBrown as the emergency 5th-in-line KPF. Another year for Majak would do the same job.
Casboult will be 32 at the start of next season and came off a 13 game, 8 goal year (playing half the time as a ruck).
On Wright and BBrown, I don't remember folks saying not to chase Wright given how cheap he was going. The BBrown concern was mostly to do with the picks/salary cost. After the trade most doubters were happy as he came much cheaper than we thought.

I agree we should look for some depth talls, but a 23-25 y.o. state leaguer, who at least has some scope to improve, would be a much better option than Casboult imo.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Given the response we received when we initially enquired into Cerra, I’d be stunned.

We won’t go out of our way to deal with Freo again. Jackson (or any player wanting to get to Freo) would have to nominate them before we did any deals.

For those wondering, we were told by Freo that we didn’t have currency for Cerra. Guess they didn’t think about young players (not that we’d trade them).

Hello Boris, I love your work in here mate, you get some good stuff but why would you lot have any issues with us, you’ve done nothing but beat us silly at the trade table for years.

Doesn’t seem unreasonable for us to tell you you don’t have the trade cap because you don’t unless you are trading Jackson (he is worth more than Cerra).

Good luck for finals, whenever I read this board I have genuine laugh out loud moments because you lot are ****ing funny

 

[GatesOfHell]

What about Esava Ratugolea

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Esava Ratugolea

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8.6

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2.2

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MG

131.6

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8.1

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4.3

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3.9

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2.1

2star

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2.5

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109.0

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4.0

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133.8

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as a left field KPF backup option? Good age profile, likes to crash a pack. Could be a good moneyball option.

 

[markm106]

What about Esava Ratugolea as a left field KPF backup option? Good age profile, likes to crash a pack. Could be a good moneyball option.

He isn’t getting getting a game now but reckon Geelong would like to keep him. He probably wouldn’t chose us as he’d struggle to get a game. But he’s be a good pickup for us.

 

[SugarHealey]

We have MBrown as the emergency 5th-in-line KPF. Another year for Majak would do the same job.
Casboult will be 32 at the start of next season and came off a 13 game, 8 goal year (playing half the time as a ruck).
On Wright and BBrown, I don't remember folks saying not to chase Wright given how cheap he was going. The BBrown concern was mostly to do with the picks/salary cost. After the trade most doubters were happy as he came much cheaper than we thought.

I agree we should look for some depth talls, but a 23-25 y.o. state leaguer, who at least has some scope to improve, would be a much better option than Casboult imo.

Mitch Brown isn't a high marking deep forward. He's a high half-forward like TMc or Weide.
It's marking the ball deep, that we need cover for. We have high half-forwards bleeding out of our ears atmo.

We won't get any half-decent high marking tall forward around 25yrs age. Remember its cover we want, and cheap.

What about Esava Ratugolea as a left field KPF backup option? Good age profile, likes to crash a pack. Could be a good moneyball option.

How do we get him and afford him whilst bolstering other spots. Again, not a full-forward type, but more high half-foward or forward/ruck.
# If we traded TMc out to GCS, Esava might be handy.

Majak isn't tall enough nor plays tall enough, for deep-forward, on his own.

On Wright and BBrown, I don't remember folks saying not to chase Wright given how cheap he was going. The BBrown concern was mostly to do with the picks/salary cost. After the trade most doubters were happy as he came much cheaper than we thought.

I think I was posting about them on another site. Neither were valued as options there. But now people will be having other thoughts.

 

[SugarHealey]

I agree we should look for some depth talls,

Another who would be cheap cover is Cale Hooker, a strong mark and good shot for goal, who doesn't fit into the baby bummers plans.

 

[Devastating Boris]

Hello Boris, I love your work in here mate, you get some good stuff but why would you lot have any issues with us, you’ve done nothing but beat us silly at the trade table for years.

Doesn’t seem unreasonable for us to tell you you don’t have the trade cap because you don’t unless you are trading Jackson (he is worth more than Cerra).

Good luck for finals, whenever I read this board I have genuine laugh out loud moments because you lot are ******* funny

To be honest there was never really any hope for a deal for either two.

When MFC asked about Cerra a few months back, they were told that Freo weren’t interested in trading with Melbourne for Cerra as MFC didn’t hold enough trade value for him as they wanted top picks.
A few big weeks later by Jackson, Cerra requests his move and Carlton start the hardball and the next time talks were held Freo raised Jackson and it didn’t go any further.