List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Thread - Part II

[George]

Continued in Part III

List Mgmt. - 2021 Trade Thread - Part III

We are onto Part 3.

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Delisted;
Oscar Clavarino

38

Oscar Clavarino

Age

25

Ht

197cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

No player stats available

Sam Alabakis

45

Sam Alabakis

Age

27

Ht

211cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

Traded;
-

Retired;
Jake Carlisle

2

Jake Carlisle

Age

32

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

116.3

2star

D

11.7

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

12.4

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

0.8

3star

Dylan Roberton

17

Dylan Roberton

Age

33

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.1

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

373.2

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

7.0

3star

HB

1.0

1star

M

1.0

1star

T

0.0

1star

MG

215.0

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

Shaun McKernan

27

Shaun Mckernan

Age

34

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

17.0

5star

K

8.2

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.2

3star

James Frawley

24

James Frawley

Age

35

Ht

193cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

5.1

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

135.4

2star

D

8.7

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.9

2star

MG

135.4

2star

D

9.0

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.2

3star

Current Players Out of Contract;
7. Luke Dunstan

27

Luke Dunstan

Age

29

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

9.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

18.2

5star

K

6.0

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

6.2

5star

CL

4.2

5star

(RFA) - Link
13. Jack Lonie

13

Jack Lonie

Age

28

Ht

175cm

Wt

70kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.0

4star

- Link
25. Dean Kent

25

Dean Kent

Age

30

Ht

181cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

10.4

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.0

4star

G

1.2

5star

D

7.6

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.6

3star

- Link
39. Darragh Joyce

41

Darragh Joyce

Age

27

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

3star

MG

207.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

4star

MG

207.6

4star

- Link
41. Paul Hunter

41

Paul Hunter

Age

31

Ht

200cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

- Link


To see the full list (it gets updated regularly) visit this thread;

List & Contract Status

SENIOR LIST 1. Jack Higgins 2. Marcus Windhager 3. Zak Jones 4. Lance Collard 5. Brad Crouch 6. Sebastian Ross 7. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera 8. Bradley Hill 9. Jack Steele 10. Mitchito Owens 11. Hunter Clark 12. Max King 13. Ryan Byrnes 14. Liam Stocker 15. Paddy Dow 16. Daniel Butler 17. Isaac...

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Restricted and Unrestricted Free Agency Window
Friday October 1 – Friday October 8

Trade Period
Players: Monday October 4 – Wednesday October 13
Picks: Monday October 4 – tbc (approx. Friday November 19)

List Lodgement 1
tbc (approx. Thursday October 28)

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
tbc (approx. Friday October 29 - Monday November 8)

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
tbc (approx. Tuesday November 9)

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
tbc (approx. Wednesday November 10 - Friday November 19)

 

[JediSaint]

So if you were to have the view that Jimmy is not best 22 in the 12th placed team, rising 29 and a little injury prone, are we likely to swap him for a pick that will nett us a best 22 kpd?

Do you actually read what you post?

Well then how do we draft the Owen or Windhagen? How do we get a KPD?
Trades need to happen to get this done.
I mentioned Webster because he wasn’t in our starting 22 with a fit side. He played a role and showed a bit of what he can do so why he has value, cash in.
Otherwise how else do we get the services of these players?

 

[Ducky Tie]

Webster is one of the last players I would trade. 28 years old and not a big name so has barely any value on the trade table, yet is a really useful player to have here. Can lockdown on the opposition's best small forward and can also play a rebounding role. I see him starting in the side next year in the same role he played this year, and even once Paton comes back through the twos, I expect Webster to retain his spot.

 

[JediSaint]

Webster is one of the last players I would trade. 28 years old and not a big name so has barely any value on the trade table, yet is a really useful player to have here. Can lockdown on the opposition's best small forward and can also play a rebounding role. I see him starting in the side next year in the same role he played this year, and even once Paton comes back through the twos, I expect Webster to retain his spot.

Fair enough.
But someone has to go to try a get a KPD.
Who would that be then?

 

[Joffaboy]

Do you actually read what you post?

Thinking old mate is an incarnation of a previous well known poster.

 

[botts]

Well then how do we draft the Owen or Windhagen? How do we get a KPD?
Trades need to happen to get this done.
I mentioned Webster because he wasn’t in our starting 22 with a fit side. He played a role and showed a bit of what he can do so why he has value, cash in.
Otherwise how else do we get the services of these players?

Have you read any of the discussions on the NGA boys? We don’t need to make up the points this year!

 

[KingsRansom]

He might not, he might secure us Owens or Windhagen, but the Ross trade might.
These things can play out so many different ways.

We will get the NGA kids regardless, unless they go in the top 20 if the club wants them

 

[KingsRansom]

Thinking old mate is an incarnation of a previous well known poster.

 

[Crusty Undies]

I don't see why Webster wouldn't be starting best 22 next year.

Are you joking..? The two games he didn't play were the only 2 where a small forward shredded us. He's currently our best lockdown defender and he's also got a laser boot. Honestly the absolute garbage on here sometimes about whichh players we do and don't need is astounding.

 

[Ducky Tie]

Fair enough.
But someone has to go to try a get a KPD.
Who would that be then?

We can't just automatically get a quality KPD by getting trade capital. Which key defender do you mean?

 

[lewdogs]

Are you joking..? The two games he didn't play were the only 2 where a small forward shredded us. He's currently our best lockdown defender and he's also got a laser boot. Honestly the absolute garbage on here sometimes about whichh players we do and don't need is astounding.

Isn't brut saying that Webster is in the 22?

 

[boulders]

Matt Crouch

5

Matt Crouch

Age

29

Ht

183cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

28.4

5star

K

12.0

4star

HB

16.4

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.9

5star

CL

4.8

5star

D

24.9

5star

K

9.7

4star

HB

15.1

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.4

3star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.2

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

10.8

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

3.4

5star

CL

2.0

4star

re-signed with the Crows, dodged a bullet there.

 

[jwikked]

Do you actually read what you post?

Seems reasonable to me, what is your issue with those posts?

 

[Crusty Undies]

Isn't brut saying that Webster is in the 22?

Yep. Misread. Ooft...

 

[Anythings_sipposible]

I reckon Brisbane's pick 18 could be gettable for future picks, as they have two father sons next year.

Maybe something like:

Battle to North or Hawthorn for their future second.

Our future second plus that future second to Brisbane for 18 and one of their 3rds or their 2 4ths (they currently have 47, 52, 57, 73)

Gives us another 1st rounder, plus points for Owens and Windhager.

 

[shlong]

Not trade news but some of the boys went and got vaccinated!

 

[shlong]

Not trade news but some of the boys went and got vaccinated!

More than 20 St Kilda players have been vaccinated.

The footballers turned up to get their jab at the Genesis Medical Centre in Bentleigh as part of a drive to encourage more young people to get the vaccine.

Among the group was captain Jack Steele and teammates Cooper Sharman, Jack Billings and Mason Wood.


St Kilda captain Jack Steele gets vaccinated. Picture: David Caird

Jack Steel post-jab. Picture: David Caird

Cooper Sharman, Jack Billings and Mason Wood after their jab. Picture: David Caird
Meanwhile, North Melbourne is on track to have almost every member of the football department fully vaccinated by early October.

More than nine in ten have had their first jabs including AFL coach David Noble and AFLW coach Darren Crocker, with the club executive all vaccinated.

North Melbourne football boss Ben Amarfio told the Herald Sun a strong education program had seen the players and football staff flock to be vaccinated.

Only a handful of players and staff with health issues are yet to have their first dose as the club continues its education program for those not yet vaccinated.

(From the Herald Sun)

 

[sunny3193]

Are you joking..? The two games he didn't play were the only 2 where a small forward shredded us. He's currently our best lockdown defender and he's also got a laser boot. Honestly the absolute garbage on here sometimes about whichh players we do and don't need is astounding.

You missed the double negative Crusty.
That’s what Brut is saying.
Edit: been Sandra’d, please ignore.

 

[Premium]

You missed the double negative Crusty.
That’s what Brut is saying.
Edit: been Sandra’d, please ignore.

Webster is to valuable to us for what he is worth in a trade.

 

[gringo2011]

Just goes to show we have a culture at our club that wants to horde players for the sake of it.
We need to boost our current list and to do that we either draft experienced players or through the draft. As a result of that tough call are to be made.

How do we obtain the services of a KPD without trading?
If not Webster then which defender/s on our list go to get a KPD?

Are we going full rebuild again?

 

[lewdogs]

Not trade news but some of the boys went and got vaccinated! View attachment 1225857View attachment 1225858

Legends

 

[gringo2011]

Well then how do we draft the Owen or Windhagen? How do we get a KPD?
Trades need to happen to get this done.
I mentioned Webster because he wasn’t in our starting 22 with a fit side. He played a role and showed a bit of what he can do so why he has value, cash in.
Otherwise how else do we get the services of these players?

Academy picks with what ever late picks and down grade next years if necessary. They are cheap hits not something we have trade away for. That would be idiotic.

 

[Marlo]

Not trade news but some of the boys went and got vaccinated! View attachment 1225857View attachment 1225858

7th booster or it doesn't count

Might be a bit more of a sensitive process out windy hill

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

The way our recruiters are going we might recruit the son of god with the first round pick , the way they have been selecting guys like Sharman a reserve grade player in Sth Australia who has shown in a handful of games he could turn into George Young on steroids, Highmore pick 45 looking like a rebounding defender like no other , Connolly pick 64 who would of thought he would of even of got a game and when he did put a few players in the shade with his dashing run to take on the game and he can kick , Byrne pick 52 is just a ball pig , Bytel pick 41 has now gone from a skinny kid with a dodgy back into a big bodied midfielder ready to take the next step.

We don't have the draft picks but somehow they have drafted and developed these kids to be players.
People who have questioned our development of players only have to look at these kids - King only with 30 games under his belt looks to be a freak and I fully expect Hunter Clark and Coffield are ready to step up to the plate after transforming from boys to men - you kind of know when you recruit a 21yr in Sharman and a 23yr in Highmore that some times you just need these kids to mature a bit.
Coffield is only 8mths older than Sharman.

Who knows they may of found a way of turning s//t to gold.

God help us what Heath and Allison turn into a Gary Dempsey and Peter Knights.

What got me is how they resurrected McKenzie and Dunstan , it was like it was Easter.

If they resurrect Clavarino they maybe be able to walk on water.

I’ll pay most of that but Bytel was lucky but not a particularly surprising thing. He was predicted top 10 before his back injury. Was on a doco following 4 prospective draftees Bytel, King, King, Walsh. If that tells you how highly rated he was.

 

[snails13]

Thinking old mate is an incarnation of a previous well known poster.

Ditto

 

[stavro#4]

Matt Crouch re-signed with the Crows, dodged a bullet there.

Missed a huge opportunity to reunite the saviour with the lord at stkilda