Player Watch 2022 AFL National Draft Discussion - read the pinned post

[Strapping Young Lad]

National AFL draft Monday November 28(first round only).
All other selections to be held on Tuesday November 29.
The pre-season and rookie drafts will then take place at 3pm (AEST) on Wednesday November 30.

 

[JZedd]

I can't see anyone called Humphrey succeeding

 

[TylerDurden]

Davo-27 has just picked Munkara at 40 in the mock draft.

 

[arupist]

That’s called Inside Trading!Which should not be aloud!


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It wasn't aloud. It was all done very quietly.

 

[Boot Studder]

I can't see anyone called Humphrey succeeding

The silent type, huh?

 

[Steven Tyler]

Davo-27 has just picked Munkara at 40 in the mock draft.

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I like how he wrote “fist pump” at the end

 

[toomanysquibs]

It isn't at all, minor improvements? Sure i can buy that.

Show me the big list of players that came in to the league with noticeably poor foot skills that drastically improved once on a list.

Patrick Dangerfield.... oh, wait.

The most dramatic improvement I've ever seen was from Sam Mitchell. He went from having a bailout type kick, to being a laser guided weapon off both feet.

Sewell's improvement was dramatic just because of how bad he was early on.

But for the most part, the Dangerfields, Goaters, Langford junior, Frosts etc. don't usually improve much at all over the course of their careers.

I'd be asking if Humprey looks a better ball winner or athlete than Josh Goater pre draft, and go from there.

 

[kirbatron]

think I need to watch again because I didn't think Humphrey's kicking was that bad

 

[RIOLINWITPUNCHS]

think I need to watch again because I didn't think Humphrey's kicking was that bad

Not sure what vision you saw but there was one video floating around where he had numerous set shots that didn't even score or look likely to score.

I think he is kicking around the ground will be okay though from some of the vision.

 

[SJT76]

Was it Clarko or our recruiting team that had a fixation on half backs, left footers and kicking skills. Just watched Cowan’s highlights and he fits that bill. Clarko to take him at 2

 

[daniel23]

For draft watchers could cowan be a midfielder in time ? Similar to jack crisp

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Jack Crisp

Age

30

Ht

190cm

Wt

91kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.2

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

9.7

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

4.0

5star

MG

307.6

4star

D

17.7

4star

K

10.7

4star

HB

7.0

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.6

3star

MG

307.6

4star

D

14.4

4star

K

8.4

4star

HB

6.0

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.0

5star

start at half back and slowly make the transition, he definitely has some nice traits.

 

[Bugs1977]

Not sure what vision you saw but there was one video floating around where he had numerous set shots that didn't even score or look likely to score.

I think he is kicking around the ground will be okay though from some of the vision.

Humphrey is talented player but my worry with his kicking is that things will only get harder at the AFL level. Wether it be the perceived pressure of a game or even just the way defences will zone back and anticipate poor rushed kicking. It doesn't matter how much of the ball you get as it will more often than not come straight back if you cannot hit a target. It seems ever since our 3peat team was disassembled all our mids have been poor kicks that have either been moved to other positions or delisted. We desperately need players that can hit a target by hand and foot. If no one drops I reckon the pick has got to be MacKenzie.

 

[Billyc]

Of course a draftee can significantly improve their kicking with professional coaching and training and personal discipline and dedication. Suggesting otherwise is like suggesting an 18 year old tennis player who just turned pro can’t improve their serve.

If a player has a skill weakness, the most important thing is whether they have the character to work their arse off to improve it. It might never become the strength of their game but it should absolutely improve with proper coaching and dedication. Our coach will know that more than anyone.

If it’s the case that Humphrey has strengths and attributes we absolutely need (dynamic, powerful, leadership) but his weakness is kicking, the biggest question will be character. Even if kicking is never the high point of his game, guys like Dangerfield, Judd and Fyfe have been champions with just average kicking but elite other attributes and professionalism.

If he’s made of the right stuff I’d rather take that chance than recruit an accumulator type who might be the safer pick but without the upside. We need stars

 

[kirbatron]

Not sure what vision you saw but there was one video floating around where he had numerous set shots that didn't even score or look likely to score.

I think he is kicking around the ground will be okay though from some of the vision.

 

[TylerDurden]

Rumours Dons into the Pou.

 

[PenAndPaper]

Not sure what vision you saw but there was one video floating around where he had numerous set shots that didn't even score or look likely to score.

I think he is kicking around the ground will be okay though from some of the vision.

Nah, that was just his kicks floating.

Its such a glaring weakness that really can't be considered for pick 6 imo.

 

[Jimmy#17]

From Fox article above.

Should the Bombers overlook Tsatas, it remains unclear how far he could slide down the order. Non-Victorian clubs are wary of drafting Tsatas, meaning it’s unlikely Gold Coast and West Coast would take him with their respective first picks.

 

[number23]

From Fox article above.

Would we pick Tstatas? On ability he's a steal at our pick but on need i.e. big bodied mids we wouldn't. Do we wait until the 2023 draft to get a big bodied mid knowing that we got a bargain in 2022 and hope that Stephens, Duke , Ward etc, can hold the fort until then ?

 

[RIOLINWITPUNCHS]

Rumours Dons into the Pou.

So Hewett wasn't even in the Herald Sun top 25 but Fox saying the bombers are considering him with #5.

 

[RIOLINWITPUNCHS]

Have a look at this one. This is actually a really good package of Humphrey.

 

[Billyc]

Would we pick Tstatas? On ability he's a steal at our pick but on need i.e. big bodied mids we wouldn't. Do we wait until the 2023 draft to get a big bodied mid knowing that we got a bargain in 2022 and hope that Stephens, Duke , Ward etc, can hold the fort until then ?

I think we would if he slides. Otherwise I am hoping for Humphrey and Pou: need a bit of x factor.

 

[Walshawk]

Have a look at this one. This is actually a really good package of Humphrey.

He is just about the worst kick I have ever seen. Then again, foot skills are overrated. None of Judd, Danger or Fyfe could hit the side of a barn.

 

[Changa10]

Nah, that was just his kicks floating.

Its such a glaring weakness that really can't be considered for pick 6 imo.

He seems to 'drop' the ball from hip height instead of guiding the footy down to his foot. It doesn't like quite as bad when he is on the run, but is a major issue on his set shots, and without momentum after a mark/free kick.

Should be a coachable fix, but muscle memory habits can be hard to break!

 

[KermitJagger]

Of course a draftee can significantly improve their kicking with professional coaching and training and personal discipline and dedication. Suggesting otherwise is like suggesting an 18 year old tennis player who just turned pro can’t improve their serve.

If a player has a skill weakness, the most important thing is whether they have the character to work their arse off to improve it. It might never become the strength of their game but it should absolutely improve with proper coaching and dedication. Our coach will know that more than anyone.

If it’s the case that Humphrey has strengths and attributes we absolutely need (dynamic, powerful, leadership) but his weakness is kicking, the biggest question will be character. Even if kicking is never the high point of his game, guys like Dangerfield, Judd and Fyfe have been champions with just average kicking but elite other attributes and professionalism.

If he’s made of the right stuff I’d rather take that chance than recruit an accumulator type who might be the safer pick but without the upside. We need stars

Players can improve their kicking, but it also becomes more difficult to be a good kick in the AFL. If they're struggling enormously with it in the U18 comps with density rules, lower pressure and a slower game they're probably not going to improve enough to become proficient at it.

I'd prefer we go with someone who is actually good at the fundamentals of footy instead of someone who has obvious deficiencies in the hopes that he might follow in the footsteps of a few extraordinarily rare exceptions to the rule.

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

Players can improve their kicking, but it also becomes more difficult to be a good kick in the AFL. If they're struggling enormously with it in the U18 comps with density rules, lower pressure and a slower game they're probably not going to improve enough to become proficient at it.

I'd prefer we go with someone who is actually good at the fundamentals of footy instead of someone who has obvious deficiencies in the hopes that he might follow in the footsteps of a few extraordinarily rare exceptions to the rule.

100% agree. We also need more blokes who are elite kicks, given what we have on our list at the moment.

 

[dermott]

The Hawks have always said that they take the best available with an early draft pick so if Tsatas slipped to our pick I am sure we would take him if our recruiting team rated him best available. We need elite talent in the midfield so it would appear a no brainer.