Prediction 2022 AFL Predictions

Where will Hawthorn finish in 2022?

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Ladder:

Melbourne
Western Bulldogs
Brisbane
GWS
Port Adelaide
St.Kilda
Richmond
Fremantle

Sydney
Hawthorn
Geelong
Carlton
Essendon
West Coast
North Melbourne
Adelaide
Gold Coast
Collingwood


Premier: Western Bulldogs

Brownlow: Bontempelli/Walsh tie

Coleman Medal: Ben Brown

Rising: Hawthorn, Fremantle, St.Kilda
Falling: Geelong, Essendon
 

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Covid breaches: 4
Other disciplinary issues: 7
Ex-players with a shit/racist/generally offensive political take: 26
Mandatory vaccine protests: 2
"Mitchell out" calls from the media: 5
Conor Nash blinders: 22
Jiath bounces: 30
And the big one, coaches forgotten during the Grand Final Post match speeches: 1 again
 
Season 2022 predictions

Ladder:
1. Demons
2. Dogs
3. Port
4. Lions
5. Swans
6. Cats
7. Dons
8. GWS
9. Fremantle
10. Hawthorn
11. Richmond
12. Saints
13. Eagles
14. Carlton
15. Suns
16. North
17. Crows
18. Pies

Who rises?
Hawthorn
Who falls?
Eagles

Brownlow: Tom Mitchell ;)

Premier: Demons.
 
We COULD do a Sydney/Ess*don of this season with Sammie at the wheel + a good mix of youth/experience

I reckon between 10 and 14 is more realistic with two main pain points being 1) young/fast teams walking it out of the middle against us and 2) us finding consistent avenues to goal
 
We are bottom 4. Or midfield is one paced and it's a worry. We need to find some outside pace and an inside mid who can break out of the pack.

We will launch well off half back though and hopefully Lewis and Kosi take another step forward in their development.

Melbourne to go B2B for mine. So much improvement is in their list.
 
Who rises:
Hawks under Sam Mitchell revitalise their game plan and jump back into the 8, slicing teams off the half back with their run and skill

Who falls:
Geelong maintain a winning record due to games at GMHBA, but fall on the back of some comprehensive losses away from home and bow out first round - prompting tough calls on the future of Chris Scott and his men

Full ladder:
1. Lions
2. Dees
3. Giants
4. Bulldogs
5. Tigers
6. Hawks
7. Power
8. Cats
9. Swans
10. Bombers
11. Saints
12. Blues
13. Dockers
14. Eagles
15. Kangaroos
16. Crows
17. Magpies
18. Suns

Brownlow:
Sam Walsh becomes one of the youngest Brownlow medal winners in a bright spot of a dim year for Carlton

Coleman:
A resurgent Lance Franklin regains his Coleman medal and breaks the AA record with a return to his best form

Premier:
Brisbane Lions time their push to perfection, with Hugh McCluggage taking out the Norm Smith against an injury impacted Melbourne
 
Re teams jumping in and out of the top 8 season-to-season - the average turnover of top 8 teams every season is 2.86.

Since 2000 there has never been the same top 8 in the following season, nor has there only been 1 team of turnover.

There has always been (since 2000) at least 2 teams of turnover.
  • Two teams of turnover: 7 times
  • Three teams of turnover: 10 times
  • Four teams of turnover: 4 times (this season was fairly rare)
 
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I've decided to put together a ladder that's going to capture some of the changes that have been made over the last few months, as well as making sure that I've had some significant change between 2021 and 2022 ladders.
Clearly I've put my side in the 8, and this is on the back of Sicily, Impey, CJ, Day, DGB and Gunston returning to the side that took it up to the Top 4 late in 2021 defeating both the Lions and Dogs and fighting out a draw with Melbourne, as well as a new coach that will be focused on improved attacking football that was seen at Box Hill this year, without being as restrictive of players attributes and flair.
Richmond to rise again with a much fitter list. Can they throw a punch in finals?
Carlton the other big mover, with a new coach who's main goal will be to make Carlton harder to play against, and they've added to their midfield which should now be a clear strength, with Curnow and McKay to deliver to.
St Kilda are the team I see dropping the most, with a lot of question marks over the players they've brought in over the last 2-3 seasons and some considerable queries regarding the coaching.
Sydney and Essendon to take small steps backwards after their youngsters had a very good 2021 but should get harder draws.
Most other clubs as explained below.


Western Bulldogs - 19 wins - driven by the desire for redemption. Fire in the belly, they run over the top of lost sides throughout the home and away.
Brisbane - 16 wins - unbeatable at the Gabba. Look to finally be able to make the most of their finals opportunities.
Richmond - 15 wins - return to form for Martin, Prestia, Vlastuin and Lynch propels Richmond up ladder
Melbourne - 14 wins - periods of the year where they lose their way. media give "flag hangover" a run after a couple of losses in a row.
- - - - -
Geelong - 14 wins - win most games at GMHBA, sitting top 2 late in July but lose winnable games late in season again.
Carlton - 13 wins - new plan, improved defensive football, harder to play against, midfield strength capitalized on.
Port Adelaide - 12 wins - win most games at home, but fall to bottom 6 sides in Victoria, which has media questioning Hinkley again.
Hawthorn - 11 wins - new plan, improved attacking football driven from back half and a more balanced midfield.

Sydney - 11 wins - slight step backwards from 2021, young players strive for consistency.
Greater Western Sydney - 10 wins - more question marks regarding output of a team full of top end talent.
Essendon - 10 wins - slight step backwards from 2021, lacking another avenue to goal. Defeated one top 8 side in 2021, will get a tougher draw in 2022.
Fremantle - 10 wins - midfield depth and scoring ability questioned throughout season. Not enough class forward of the ball.
West Coast - 9 wins - older players start to wane, midfield form slump continues. Transition of older heads to new faces has a few bumps in the road.
Adelaide - 9 wins - improved season overall, but marginal improvement in wins column. Thilthorpe the shining light throughout most of the year.
North Melbourne - 8 wins - much improved season on back of young midfield. Defense struggles at times. JHF wins rising star.
St Kilda - 6 wins - taking on water, the top up has failed. Media pile on early in the year. Ratten sacked late in season.
Collingwood - 6 wins - Improved performances, but lose a number of close games. Forward line the biggest concern.
Gold Coast - 5 wins - inconsistent output, underperform once again, King, Rankine and Lukosis contract talks hinder season with southern state clubs continually linked to them. Dew cooked.

Brownlow - Bontempelli
Coleman - McKay
Premiers - Bulldogs
 
Who rises: Hawthorn under Sam Mitchell revitalise their game plan and jump back up the ladder and contend for the 8, slicing teams off the half back with their run and skill

Who falls: Geelong maintain a winning record due to their games at GMHBA, but fall off and down to the backend of the 8, due to some comprehensive losses away from home and bow out in the first round of the finals, prompting tough calls on the futures of Chris Scott and his men.

Full Ladder:
Western Bulldogs - 16 wins - Driven by the desire for redemption. Midfield steamrolls most.

Melbourne Demons - 15 wins - Outclass teams week by week being a step ahead, but like most teams after a premiership they drop the odd game and badly.

Brisbane Lions - 14 wins - Unbeatable at the Gabba.

Port Adelaide - 14 wins - Win their games at home, the iffy form in Victoria continues, reasons as to why they aren't pushing top 2.

Sydney Swans - 13 wins - Young players strive for consistency but lack composure at times, leading to a stagnation on the ladder.

GWS Giants - 13 wins - Struggle early days with no Toby Greene, find a way to be at a near even W/L ratio and storm home late in the year.

Essendon Bombers- 12 wins - Stagnate with the loss of Cale Hooker and struggle to find consistent scoring avenues, strong midfield keeps them in the game.

Geelong Cats - 11 wins - Maintain a winning record due to games at GMHBA but fall off due to comprehensive losses away from home and bow out first round of the finals, prompting tough calls on the future of Chris Scott and his men.

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Fremantle Dockers - 11 wins - Would be pushing the top 8 if not for the loss of Adam Cerra, instead only rise a few spots on the ladder and are stiffed out of the finals by small losses away from home.

Hawthorn Hawks - 10 wins - Barely miss out on finals, but lose games due to mistakes in close games with a young group and new coach.

Richmond Tigers - 10 wins - Miss out on the finals and the title of Ninethmond, tough losses with an aging group and reliance on younger midfielders who haven't had as much exposure, which is due to injuries to veteran midfielders.

Carlton Blues - 9 wins - Questions arise over Michael Voss at his first year at the Blues with a road ahead to begin rebuilding club culture and winning mentality.

StKilda Saints - 9 wins - Once again miss finals with again an over reliance on Jack Steele, struggle with lack of scoring avenues.

Adelaide Crows - 8 wins - A promising group, with lots of young talent, stagnate/rise by 1 on the ladder but with possibilites to rise slightly more with Dawson coming in.

West Coast Eagles- 7 wins - Drop with injuries to veteran mids and key players, with lack of youth to steer the ship and a long road ahead of the boys over in the West.

North Melbourne - 7 wins - Rise from wooden spoon with it all looking up for the white and blue kangaroos.

Gold Coast Suns - 7 wins - Stiffed out with a couple draws which keeps them from rising to 9 wins and a place where you can build upon.

Collingwood Magpies - 5 wins - A younger group coming through the ranks as they push out the old, not enough time to gel but find some wins late in the season, don't get flogged too often in a pretty even year.



Brownlow: Marcus Bontempelli - 37 votes - The stars align and he brings him the Charlie, no form slumps and a superstar all the way through.

Coleman: Buddy Franklin - 65 goals - It all comes together, little to no injuries, 1000th goal and a Sydney side that's once again in the top 5.

Rising Star: Jason Horne-Francis - Best player in it, the most mature body aswell and will be ready from game 1 to play at a high standard.

Premier: Melbourne Demons - Clayton Oliver - 12 points - Back to back as other teams are still continuing to build - Western Bulldogs
 

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I’d guess we’d will be 13th. A lot depends on how much Mitchell wants to play youth/ focus on youth. I think it will be a much greater focus than the last couple of years.

Ward, Butler and MacDonald to play at least 35 games combined.

Saunders to play at least a game or two. And the unveiling of S. Mitchell who will start to showcase his talent before a big 2023.
 
This topic seems to get discussed on basically every thread, so I thought it would be good to thrash it out in one spot.

How do you see us going this year?

Personally, I see the following:

Wins: 6-8
Ladder position: 12-14th
Leading goalkicker: Lewis
BnF: Worpel
Best first-year player: Ward

Premiers: Dees

A rebuilding year with plenty of new faces and a new game plan, a pass mark would have us around 5-6 wins. Can see us winning as many as 8 or 9 if we get a run at it.
 
Finishing low this year wouldn’t be bad
I know it’s early but from all rumours the top 5 or so players going into 2022 draft are like very very good m so would be handy to get another young young.


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Updated mine. Premier, Brownlow and Coleman still the same as my original.


Western Bulldogs - 19 wins - driven by the desire for redemption. Fire in the belly.
Greater Western Sydney - 17 wins - Finally get to see the right output from a team full of top end talent.
Richmond - 14 wins - return to form for Martin, Prestia and Lynch propels Richmond up ladder.
Brisbane - 14 wins - unbeatable at the Gabba. Can Fagan take the next step?
- - - - -
Melbourne - 14 wins - periods of the year where they lose their way. media give "flag hangover" a run when they lose two in a row.
Geelong - 13 wins - win most games at GMHBA, but lose winnable games late in season as older bodies tire.
Sydney - 13 wins - Only a slight step backwards from 2021, younger players strive for consistency.
Carlton - 12 wins - new plan, improved defensive football, harder to play against, midfield strength and spine capitalized on.


Port Adelaide - 11 wins - win most games at home, but fall to bottom 6 sides in Victoria, which has media and members gunning for Hinkley again.
Essendon - 10 wins - slight step backwards from 2021, lacking another avenue to goal. Tougher draw in 2022.
Fremantle - 10 wins - Some good wins at home, scoring ability to be questioned throughout season.
Hawthorn - 10 wins - Mitchell improves the midfield efficiency, build into season with improved attacking football driven from back half.
Adelaide - 9 wins - improved season overall with a couple of big scalps at home, but marginal improvement in wins column.
St Kilda - 8 wins - taking on water with inconsistent output. Ratten on a knife's edge.
North Melbourne - 7 wins - much improved season on back of building midfield. Defense struggles at times.
West Coast - 7 wins - older players start to wane, key injuries, midfield form slump continues.
Collingwood - 6 wins - Improved performances from 2021, but lose a number of close games. Ageing list up the spine a concern.
Gold Coast - 6 wins - underperform once again, King, Rankine and Lukosis contract talks hinder season. Dew cooked. Clarkson replaces him.
 
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This ladder is a weighted average of all 10 models from Squiggle, AFL lab, Live Ladders, Wheelo, AFLalytics, Zaphbot, GR, The Footycast, PlusSixOne, Elo Predicts.


preseason ladder 2022.jpeg
 
Strapping Young Lad said:
Updated mine. Premier, Brownlow and Coleman still the same as my original.


Western Bulldogs - 19 wins - driven by the desire for redemption. Fire in the belly.
Greater Western Sydney - 17 wins - Finally get to see the right output from a team full of top end talent.
Richmond - 14 wins - return to form for Martin, Prestia and Lynch propels Richmond up ladder.
Brisbane - 14 wins - unbeatable at the Gabba. Can Fagan take the next step?
- - - - -
Melbourne - 14 wins - periods of the year where they lose their way. media give "flag hangover" a run when they lose two in a row.
Geelong - 13 wins - win most games at GMHBA, but lose winnable games late in season as older bodies tire.
Sydney - 13 wins - Only a slight step backwards from 2021, younger players strive for consistency.
Carlton - 12 wins - new plan, improved defensive football, harder to play against, midfield strength and spine capitalized on.


Port Adelaide - 11 wins - win most games at home, but fall to bottom 6 sides in Victoria, which has media and members gunning for Hinkley again.
Essendon - 10 wins - slight step backwards from 2021, lacking another avenue to goal. Tougher draw in 2022.
Fremantle - 10 wins - Some good wins at home, scoring ability to be questioned throughout season.
Hawthorn - 10 wins - Mitchell improves the midfield efficiency, build into season with improved attacking football driven from back half.
Adelaide - 9 wins - improved season overall with a couple of big scalps at home, but marginal improvement in wins column.
St Kilda - 8 wins - taking on water with inconsistent output. Ratten on a knife's edge.
North Melbourne - 7 wins - much improved season on back of building midfield. Defense struggles at times.
West Coast - 7 wins - older players start to wane, key injuries, midfield form slump continues.
Collingwood - 6 wins - Improved performances from 2021, but lose a number of close games. Ageing list up the spine a concern.
Gold Coast - 6 wins - underperform once again, King, Rankine and Lukosis contract talks hinder season. Dew cooked. Clarkson replaces him.
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GWS are the one team Ive seen who have really changed my mind in the praccy games.
Seem to have a real hard edge about them , look absolute genuine top 4 prospect.
 

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