List Mgmt. 2022 List Management and trading thread

[Scorpus]

I saw this format on the West Coast board and thought it might help understand our current list position

 

[AmericanMustard]

This kid not much chop then mate?

I think he’s a perfectly fine kid don’t get me wrong, pretty hard worker. If we’re being honest I just don’t think he has a skill set to make it at league level.

His ball use it average, he doesn’t find it awfully lots, 4 times this year over 25 touches in the VFL playing full time role on the wing, which for me is concerning because he’s fit and covers a lot of ground.

I dunno, maybe you can unlock something in him like you did when you took Seedsman, but Seedsman always had elite ball use

 

[Ramify]

I think he’s a perfectly fine kid don’t get me wrong, pretty hard worker. If we’re being honest I just don’t think he has a skill set to make it at league level.

His ball use it average, he doesn’t find it awfully lots, 4 times this year over 25 touches in the VFL playing full time role on the wing, which for me is concerning because he’s fit and covers a lot of ground.

I dunno, maybe you can unlock something in him like you did when you took Seedsman, but Seedsman always had elite ball use

Cheers. Yeah I think we have enough average ball users.

Seedsman had played on of the best games I've ever seen for you lot in that Anzac clash before comming to us. I'm not sure we unlocked that much with him.

In saying that, Build Billy some self confidence and a different mindset where he believes he is as big a unit as he is and I reckon you have a player.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I think he’s a perfectly fine kid don’t get me wrong, pretty hard worker. If we’re being honest I just don’t think he has a skill set to make it at league level.

His ball use it average, he doesn’t find it awfully lots, 4 times this year over 25 touches in the VFL playing full time role on the wing, which for me is concerning because he’s fit and covers a lot of ground.

I dunno, maybe you can unlock something in him like you did when you took Seedsman, but Seedsman always had elite ball use

Mutineer - thoughts?

 

[Mutineer]

Mutineer - thoughts?

I'll back my judgement thanks...

If he comes cheap enough plenty to like about what he brings to the table....

Collingwood have already delisted 4 players, he wasn't one of them including the Brown brothers who played 6 and 11 AFL games this season.

Pies cut sons of gun among four delistings

Collingwood lets both Callum and Tyler Brown go

www.afl.com.au

COLLINGWOOD has delisted both Callum and Tyler Brown, sons of former captain Gavin Brown, among a total of four players let go on Tuesday.

Callum was taken as a father-son selection in the 2016 draft at pick 35, while Tyler was selected with pick 50 the following year, also under the father-son system.

The Magpies also delisted Isaac Chugg and Liam McMahon.

 

[skittlebrew]

That’s probably overs on your end so we’ll take it

He's that bad? Ouch

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I'll back my judgement thanks...

If he comes cheap enough plenty to like about what he brings to the table....

Collingwood have already delisted 4 players, he wasn't one of them including the Brown brothers who played 6 and 11 AFL games this season.

Pies cut sons of gun among four delistings

Collingwood lets both Callum and Tyler Brown go

www.afl.com.au

COLLINGWOOD has delisted both Callum and Tyler Brown, sons of former captain Gavin Brown, among a total of four players let go on Tuesday.

Callum was taken as a father-son selection in the 2016 draft at pick 35, while Tyler was selected with pick 50 the following year, also under the father-son system.

The Magpies also delisted Isaac Chugg and Liam McMahon.

What draft pick would you value him at to come cheap?

Swap for Frampton?

 

[Mutineer]

What draft pick would you value him at to come cheap?

Swap for Frampton?

Seems the obvious deal if we are truly interested in making him a Crow though given his age and potential it probably favours us.

 

[crow2crow]

Seems the obvious deal if we are truly interested in making him a Crow though given his age and potential it probably favours us.

interesting pies draft watchers reckons that favours them

that suggests it favours nobody

 

[Cleric]

Think of Poulter like Simon Tragenza.

 

[Mutineer]

interesting pies draft watchers reckons that favours them

that suggests it favours nobody

Yeah a 25 year 10 month old player that's been on an AFL list for 8 seasons and played the royal sum of 24 games, 3 games in his first 5 seasons against a yet to turn 20 player that's been on an AFL list for only 2 seasons and played 12 AFL games, 11 in his first season under coach Buckley...

Even in Poulter's one solitary AFL game in 2022 he racked up 3 clearances.

Like I said if he's obtainable cheaply he has the potential to be a nice pick up given his age and potential....not a lot to lose plenty to gain.

ON THE OUTER: Why can't he get a game for your club?

Who is surprisingly out of favour with the coach at your club?

www.afl.com.au

 

[Crow till I die]

Yeah a 25 year 10 month old player that's been on an AFL list for 8 seasons and played the royal sum of 24 games, 3 games in his first 5 seasons against a yet to turn 20 player that's been on an AFL list for only 2 seasons and played 12 AFL games, 11 in his first season under coach Buckley...

Even in Poulter's one solitary AFL game in 2022 he racked up 3 clearances.

Like I said if he's obtainable cheaply he has the potential to be a nice pick up given his age and potential....not a lot to lose plenty to gain.

ON THE OUTER: Why can't he get a game for your club?

Who is surprisingly out of favour with the coach at your club?

www.afl.com.au

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This would seem to fit the club's recruitment of attracting back SA born players. Hately was a very low cost get and Poulter may be too. Now if these guys don't end up making it, but have cost very little by way of draft capital, thats no problem and its better to try than to regret

 

[Mutineer]

This would seem to fit the club's recruitment of attracting back SA born players. Hately was a very low cost get and Poulter may be too. Now if these guys don't end up making it, but have cost very little by way of draft capital, thats no problem and its better to try than to regret

Poulter has speed, athleticism and a super penetrating left boot Hately can only dream about.

The disappointing thing with Hately has been his inside the contest footy, an area he looked good in as a junior.

 

[Chase13]

Think of Poulter like Simon Tragenza.

Saw a lot of poulter in first season at Collingwood. Thought he looked great for a first year player. Will play wing begin then tall inside mid. Composed great kick . Not fast but composure makes him look faster be a great get for crows with little draft capital

reidy get it done

 

[CROW in BALI]

Think of Poulter like Simon Tragenza.

That’s an interesting comparison, Caleb Poulter is a very smooth moving footballer and Trigger always looked so mechanical to me.

 

[Jetwa5h]

Poulter has speed, athleticism and a super penetrating left boot Hately can only dream about.

The disappointing thing with Hately has been his inside the contest footy, an area he looked good in as a junior.

Well yeah that will happen when he was always positioned of the contest and not in the stoppage

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[UcantCme]

Think of Poulter like Simon Tragenza.

Tragenza was a crap kick, Poulter has a much better leg

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[Mutineer]

Well yeah that will happen when he was always positioned of the contest and not in the stoppage

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Not so, Hately played a pure midfield role and never really looked an inside mid at AFL leve, probably why they tried him on the wing?

 

[Danger in Texas]

Not so, Hately played a pure midfield role and never really looked an inside mid at AFL leve, probably why they tried him on the wing?

IMO looked better as an inside extractor than as someone with not good pace and average-to-okay kicking skills

Ultimately probably not good enough for either role at AFL level

 

[Cleric]

Tragenza was a crap kick, Poulter has a much better leg

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They both played wing. They both ran with the ball, and as it stands currently they both have poor disposal by foot.
He is very Tragenza like both in position and attributes.

 

[Jetwa5h]

Not so, Hately played a pure midfield role and never really looked an inside mid at AFL leve, probably why they tried him on the wing?

Even when he played pure midfield he was not the extractor that was left to Berry and Crouch

 

[Crow_68]

Still getting my head around how we can structure our list next season.

Ignoring the Cat Bs, assume we can move from the current 37 + 6 to 38 + 4 if we need to upgrade Butts and Strachan?

Depending on what we do with Seedsman, delisting Davis could leave our Rookie List as Turner, Parnell, Murray and Seed?

Brown’ retirement and Frampton’s trade would then leave the main list at 36, so technically we could bring in Rankine and Michalanney and not use any other draft picks? (Butts, Strachan, Michalanney as the 3 compulsory picks).

Is this right or am I missing something?

Of course, moving Rowe/Crouch on and using picks 5 & 23 is much preferred.

 

[Crow till I die]

I'll probably get howled down for this suggestion, but i'd like to see us make a play for Bowes and pick 7

Crows give 2023 1st to GC for Bowes + pick 7.

Then pick 5 for rankine.

We then get rankine and still have a pick before port in the first round of this years draft

 

[Red mist]

They both played wing. They both ran with the ball, and as it stands currently they both have poor disposal by foot.
He is very Tragenza like both in position and attributes.

Uh I don’t know. Maybe position but not attributes imo. A lot taller than Trigger. He had a lot of power through his legs. Poulter more rangy.
He didn’t take many overhead, more lead up. Was also predominantly outside. Not an inside outs player.
Also wing in 1990s ain’t wing now.

 

[Danger in Texas]

I'll probably get howled down for this suggestion, but i'd like to see us make a play for Bowes and pick 7

Crows give 2023 1st to GC for Bowes + pick 7.

Then pick 5 for rankine.

We then get rankine and still have a pick before port in the first round of this years draft

Yeah I like this, although I think we should try to squeeze another pick out of GC, probably their 2nd

If we’re confident we’ll do well next year, then I’d be down

 

[Jeffcrowe]

As described on the Richmond board today:

'What he does is produce huge amounts of pressure and constantly involved in contests and link up plays. A lot of what he does is getting from spot to spot, whether that is rewarded or not. He makes it harder for he opposition to get the ball out cleanly and to move it cleanly. He provides us with an outnumber in contests and another option in link up play.

So, for a position, Lambos HFF role or a rotation in the midfield.

But the thing is that when he plays we are more competitive and when he doesn't we are less competitive. That is a highly valuable player'

Yep hes an elite transition runner ( 2 way) …. Keays is prob the most similar player we have with his running