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[Pistol Night]

That may be, but it's not the reason he hasn't been in the team

He played well against us the first game this year

 

[danster168]

He is an employee of the AFL. He is not there to trash the brand. He is there to talk up the product. People expecting that AFL employees like Shifter and Twomey to be more discerning and expressive in their views and opinions on players are bit naive in their expectations. No different then you and me working for our company. Even if we know our product is crap we would not be expressing that view in public.

incorrect. the draft itself is the product. people weren't born 5 minutes ago. If some guy is taken at 56 and not 6 we want to know why. It's not difficult. Do you really think people watch the draft and think 'Oh, none of these guys have weaknesses'? wrong. People go 'ok, hmm what's the catch?'. 'What aren't they telling me'. Just provide a proper product, proper special comments with proper analysis. It's not analysis if you just talk about the positives.

 

[TheBigHorne]

incorrect. the draft itself is the product. people weren't born 5 minutes ago. If some guy is taken at 56 and not 6 we want to know why. It's not difficult. Do you really think people watch the draft and think 'Oh, none of these guys have weaknesses'? wrong. People go 'ok, hmm what's the catch?'. 'What aren't they telling me'. Just provide a proper product, proper special comments with proper analysis. It's not analysis if you just talk about the positives.

Not trying to sound rude but if you want to know the weaknesses so much google is right there for you.

 

[danster168]

Not trying to sound rude but if you want to know the weaknesses so much google is right there for you.

that makes no sense. What a service that would be 'tune into afl.com.au guys for full draft coverage where we tell you all the positive about and player. Google the player for a full proper analysis'. That's a laughable proposition.

Who cares if a player has weaknesses? Literally ever player in every sport has weaknesses.

 

[Blackhawk42]

in the nba, which basically does everything better than the afl, they also focus on the draftees shortcomings.

Time outs late in games are infuriating.
The salaries are absolutely ridiculous.
The fixture is horribly bloated making losing/winning streaks less significant.
Players being traded against their will (sometimes DURING games) is absurd.
Supporters often follow players rather than teams, resulting in the sport lacking loyalty and heart.

However, athletically the players are incredible.
They also market their talents better than any other sport on the planet.

Those two positives are strong enough to hide all those negatives, resulting in a competition that is immensely popular worldwide.

They don't do everything better than the AFL though. No sport is perfect.

 

[bungalow_bill]

How do you traded during a game? lol

 

[Pistol Night]

How do you traded during a game? lol

The NBA you can. Get told when you come to the bench.

 

[SumaGodCoach]

How do you traded during a game? lol

Harrison Barnes’ bizarre mid-game trade, explained

There’s a lot of emotion surround how Barnes left the Mavs.

www.sbnation.com

 

[Westlo]

Players being traded against their will (sometimes DURING games) is absurd.

Should be able to do that in the AFL as well, especially when we're getting shit like 45 minutes down the road is to far.

 

[briztoon]

How do you traded during a game? lol

It happens.

The NBA trade period runs through the first two thirds of the season. Players can be traded any time during this part of the season. Players have been traded, and told to sit out the second half of a game, before flying out to their new team later that night.

 

[Hendo_21]

Twomey 8/8 so far if anyone though he'll be guessing a bit more this year

 

[Lance Uppercut]

Tombstones

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

Why do clubs slip who they are taking prior to the draft.. all it does is make frauds like Cal Twomey seem like he knows what he is doing, when really he is basking his predictions purely on informed advice from recruiters and not from his own talent judgement.

 

[Spank2304]

Why do clubs slip who they are taking prior to the draft.. all it does is make frauds like Cal Twomey seem like he knows what he is doing, when really he is basking his predictions purely on informed advice from recruiters and not from his own talent judgement.

He does a form ranking based on the talent he observes throughout the year as separate articles. His phantom draft is meant to be as close to the real draft as possible by basing his predictions on informed advice from recruiters...

 

[Blackhawk42]

It happens.

The NBA trade period runs through the first two thirds of the season. Players can be traded any time during this part of the season. Players have been traded, and told to sit out the second half of a game, before flying out to their new team later that night.

And yet the personalities and athleticism of the major stars make you forget something that absurd can actually happen.

I have no issue with people loving NBA more than the AFL, but this idea that they do everything perfectly and the AFL should be copying them is misguided.

 

[FrogDude]

Why do clubs slip who they are taking prior to the draft.. all it does is make frauds like Cal Twomey seem like he knows what he is doing, when really he is basking his predictions purely on informed advice from recruiters and not from his own talent judgement.

I'm shocked. A reporter doing his job? What a fraud!

 

[briztoon]

And yet the personalities and athleticism of the major stars make you forget something that absurd can actually happen.

I have no issue with people loving NBA more than the AFL, but this idea that they do everything perfectly and the AFL should be copying them is misguided.

I didn’t say that though. So not sure why you’re replying to me.

And further, I gave a couple of reasons why our AFL draft coverage isn’t up to the standard of the NBA or NFL draft coverage.

 

[briztoon]

Why do clubs slip who they are taking prior to the draft.. all it does is make frauds like Cal Twomey seem like he knows what he is doing, when really he is basking his predictions purely on informed advice from recruiters and not from his own talent judgement.

I believe you’re comment is pretty off base here.

Twomey’s job isn’t to provide independent talent evaluation to the public.

His job is to report on which kids clubs are interested, and provide general coverage and informed opinion during the season.

 

[Blackhawk42]

I didn’t say that though. So not sure why you’re replying to me.

And further, I gave a couple of reasons why our AFL draft coverage isn’t up to the standard of the NBA or NFL draft coverage.

Was a general comment. Your post was just the perfect example of what I find to be a silly part of NBA. There seems to constantly be a narrative that they run the league perfectly over there and the AFL should mimic it wherever possible.

 

[briztoon]

Was a general comment. Your post was just the perfect example of what I find to be a silly part of NBA. There seems to constantly be a narrative that they run the league perfectly over there and the AFL should mimic it wherever possible.

It’s a completely different dynamic in the NBA.

I grew up with the NBA, and its list management rules.

Coming to AFL only somewhat recently, I find a lot of the AFL list management rules rather restrictive and nonsensical.

To go further, I believe much of the AFL’s rules and how it’s run is farcical. It’s supposed to be a National competition, but it’s still purely run to keep the remaining VFL sides alive, to the detriment of every other non Victorian club.

To have a truly national competition, 6 of the current Victorian teams should be killed off, with Tassie and the NT getting teams.

That would balance the league, improve the talent level, and hopefully remove the Vic Bias from the game.

 

[Lore]

It’s a completely different dynamic in the NBA.

I grew up with the NBA, and its list management rules.

Coming to AFL only somewhat recently, I find a lot of the AFL list management rules rather restrictive and nonsensical.

To go further, I believe much of the AFL’s rules and how it’s run is farcical. It’s supposed to be a National competition, but it’s still purely run to keep the remaining VFL sides alive, to the detriment of every other non Victorian club.

To have a truly national competition, 6 of the current Victorian teams should be killed off, with Tassie and the NT getting teams.

That would balance the league, improve the talent level, and hopefully remove the Vic Bias from the game.

Is it really a national competition if the interstate teams are filled with Victorian expats

 

[diddley1984]

To have a truly national competition, 6 of the current Victorian teams should be killed off, with Tassie and the NT getting teams.

That would balance the league, improve the talent level, and hopefully remove the Vic Bias from the game.

I see what you mean, but it would be completely non-viable.
It may be a “National” game, but it’s numbers aren’t anywhere near equal to scrap 6 vic teams, just as a majority of NRL teams are in NSW. They don’t even bother with WA or SA, let alone tas and NT.
The population of the US, and the global market of the NBA allow them to pay players life changing amounts to move them interstate without their consent. AFL players don’t get paid enough to be screwed over in the same way.
NT would never have enough people to go to games and make it a business worth running independently.

 

[Pistol Night]

It’s a completely different dynamic in the NBA.

I grew up with the NBA, and its list management rules.

Coming to AFL only somewhat recently, I find a lot of the AFL list management rules rather restrictive and nonsensical.

To go further, I believe much of the AFL’s rules and how it’s run is farcical. It’s supposed to be a National competition, but it’s still purely run to keep the remaining VFL sides alive, to the detriment of every other non Victorian club.

To have a truly national competition, 6 of the current Victorian teams should be killed off, with Tassie and the NT getting teams.

That would balance the league, improve the talent level, and hopefully remove the Vic Bias from the game.

Which 6? This will end well.

 

[eth-dog]

Which 6? This will end well.

If you're keeping 4 then it really only makes sense to keep C, C, E and R.

Maybe G and M cos they're the oldest ones.

 

[Lore]

For the sake of posterity;

Phantom Draft late mail: Dons weigh up huge late trade, Dees lurk

Draft guru Cal Twomey reveals the last minute draft whispers ahead of the 2022 NAB AFL Draft

www.afl.com.au

LATE MAIL PHANTOM DRAFT​

Pick 1 – Greater Western Sydney – Aaron Cadman

Pick 2 – Brisbane (matching North Melbourne's bid) – Will Ashcroft

Pick 3 – North Melbourne – Harry Sheezel

Pick 4 – North Melbourne – George Wardlaw

Pick 5 – Essendon – Elijah Tsatas

Pick 6 – Gold Coast – Bailey Humphrey

Pick 7 – Hawthorn – Cameron Mackenzie

Pick 8 – Geelong – Jhye Clark

Pick 9 – West Coast – Reuben Ginbey

Pick 10 – St Kilda – Mattaes Phillipou

Pick 11 – Carlton – Oliver Hollands

Pick 12 – Western Bulldogs – Jedd Busslinger

Pick 13 – West Coast – Ed Allan

Pick 14 – Melbourne – Matthew Jefferson

Pick 15 – Sydney – Josh Weddle

Pick 16 – Greater Western Sydney – Jacob Konstanty

Pick 17 – Brisbane (matching Collingwood's bid) – Jaspa Fletcher

Pick 18 – Collingwood – Jakob Ryan

Pick 19 – Adelaide (matching Sydney's bid) – Max Michalanney

Pick 20 – Sydney – Lachie Cowan

Pick 21 – Greater Western Sydney – Brayden George

Pick 22 – Greater Western Sydney – Darcy Jones

Pick 23 – West Coast – Elijah Hewett

Pick 24 – Western Bulldogs – Charlie Clarke

Pick 25 – Essendon – Lewis Hayes

Pick 26 – North Melbourne – Tom McCallum

Pick 27 – Hawthorn – Max Gruzewski

Pick 28 – Collingwood – Harry Barnett

Pick 29 – West Coast – Coby Burgiel

Pick 30 – Collingwood – Olli Hotton