Training 2022 Pre Season

[Saint_Dos]

So long term injury list and sign another player in the spp?

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SANFL Clubs sphincters just tightened a little.
The Banker is casting his eye...

 

[Murraj1966]

These types of situations can also be the making of them. Giving them resilience and so-on. Think that’s far more like to be the case than it being a career-killer.

Jesus
A career killer FFS

I definitely don't want this to be the case, but a player having a down year and then a season ending injury derailing his progress and shattering his confidence? We've all seen it before.

I hope Coff smashes it in rehab and comes back better than ever but the St Kilda fan in me hasn't been optimistic r.e. injuries (or a lot of things) since Lenny Hayes' ACL did the same in 2011.

 

[_Maximus_12]

Suspect Coff is made of the right stuff and will bounce back better than ever. Not great for the next 12 months, but we're stacked across half back so at least we can cover the loss while he gets himself right for 2023.

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

View attachment 1321784Another young defender out for the season we all know who did it..

Can we sign him as a replacement and have him kick goals and smash blokes?

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

In short, you need to be lucky ( high failure rate ).
It doesn't say much about it here , but i remember reading how the artificial fibrous material frays over time, and doesn't regrow like the natural ligaments. So they can potentially get you back on the track fast, but another reconstruction in the future is almost inevitable.

Whatever happened to LARS? The miracle ACL surgery that was too good to be true

Athletes with ACL injuries once lined up for the LARS surgery, touted as a miracle cure capable of shaving eight months off recovery time — but it has since fallen out of favour.

www.abc.net.au

It absolutely made sense for Gemma Etheridge
If it was a 34 year old Cooper Sharman, trying to get the Saints over the line for their 8peat premiership and his 1500'th goal, you might say go for it , but not really suitable for a young fringe player.

125 goals a year for Sharman not bad

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

Thankfully he is still pretty young. I reckon Max will have some tips for him on how to handle the disappointment.
He’s resilient, he’ll bounce back. Many years left in his career hopefully.

What a bummer!

Windhager no stranger to the ACL either.

 

[11men1cup]

I'm not saying I'm superstitious. But I would tell King to stay away from any golf courses from now on.

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[Enclosed_Animal]

For anyone looking for some light at the end of the tunnel, BJ did his ACL at about the same age.

2 years later he was absolutely flying

 

[tomjoad]

Incredibly bad luck for Coffield. He seemed primed for this coming season, which is what the vast majority of us wanted to see. ACL's are never good, but it's not career ending. He'll be back next year in beast mode.

 

[malevu]

We never seem to do things by half measure. ACLs, broken legs, hammies torn off the bone, debilitating back injuries etc.

The Saints curse strikes again. The pessimist in me has been waiting for it. Let's hope it's the only one. Somehow I doubt It will be.

 

[The Jack]

I give up. Just got home and got on Twitter. I mean seriously.

 

[Olliver]

Edit ... might have crossed wires ...

Lenny did his first ACL in 2006
BGoddard did one in 2007
Then Lenny did his second in 2011 ... I can't recall any after 2011

Dan Markworth in 2012 I reckon.

What was the thing Malcheski had a few years back, Les Mis or something where they grafted the ACL and he was out for only 3 months? Is that sh*t still in vogue?

LARS grafts aren’t used these days as they always re-rupture. Hamstring tendon grafts are still by far the most common in Aus but sometimes a patellar tendon or quadriceps tendon (ala Max King) is used as it can potentially give a firmer graft. Regardless, it’s 9-12 months.

 

[Joffaboy]

We never seem to do things by half measure. ACLs, broken legs, hammies torn off the bone, debilitating back injuries etc.

The Saints curse strikes again. The pessimist in me has been waiting for it. Let's hope it's the only one. Somehow I doubt It will be.

Yes we are the only team to ever suffer from an injury. We are cursed, we are victims. Jesus

 

[SaintsSeptember]

I'm not saying I'm superstitious. But I would tell King to stay away from any golf courses from now on.

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Don't go bowling with Steven Baker either.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

125 goals a year for Sharman not bad

Not every year, but the 200 goal years make up for the 99 goals years.

 

[mad-saint-guy]

Shocking news for Coff. I had him in my starting 18 but fortunately for the club it's probably the position that is easiest to cover. We have no shortage of general defenders.

Hopefully the club gets him involved in some official capacity to keep him busy and focused this season. Maybe helping out with opposition analysis or something like that.

 

[phantom13]

Yes we are the only team to ever suffer from an injury. We are cursed, we are victims. Jesus

Im not sure I’d go quite as far as cursed but you seem hell bent on giving any poster who suggests we’re unlucky shit for it, let them grieve man. It sucks and it does seem we’ve had a bit of a streak.

 

[sunny3193]

Im not sure I’d go quite as far as cursed but you seem hell bent on giving any poster who suggests we’re unlucky sh*t for it, let them grieve man. It sucks and it does seem we’ve had a bit of a streak.

Invariably you need good luck to be competitive.
Having pre season, season ending injuries is not quite consistent with the definition of good luck I’d suggest.

 

[phantom13]

Invariably you need good luck to be competitive.
Having pre season, season ending injuries is not quite consistent with the definition of good luck I’d suggest.

100000000000% agree.

Any footy fan who claims they won a flag without any luck is kidding themselves

 

[George]

I definitely don't want this to be the case, but a player having a down year and then a season ending injury derailing his progress and shattering his confidence? We've all seen it before.

I hope Coff smashes it in rehab and comes back better than ever but the St Kilda fan in me hasn't been optimistic r.e. injuries (or a lot of things) since Lenny Hayes' ACL did the same in 2011.

Hayes won the best and fairest the year after he did his ACL

 

[bergholt]

Not every year, but the 200 goal years make up for the 99 goals years.

And that time he took a year off to go to the Olympics and win 5 gold medals across 4 different sports

 

[hayes]

Hayes won the best and fairest the year after he did his ACL

We cannot compare Leonard Hayes to mere mortals.

 

[MordySaint]

I'm starting to raise a few questions about our pre-season training regimes.

Last year our season was completely derailed by the major injuries to key players in the preseason.

This year it is happening again.

This can't be just put down to luck or the football gods hate us...

I've watched a few Ratten strategy meetings and he focuses on ... spots are up for grabs, who wants it, this spot is yours if you beat your teammate... surely this encourages players to take unneccessary risks.

Thoughts?

 

[gringo2011]

100000000000% agree.

Any footy fan who claims they won a flag without any luck is kidding themselves

Melbourne's injury luck last year was huge. Now that they've won one they have confidence that they can do it again and could probably handle few players missing. The Dogs had the extra week break and got back a heap of players that made a difference. You need a heap of luck and if you read about one of our high potential kids going down it doesn't seem like the footy gods are lining up to hand us some of it. Hopefully they are sated and that's it for 22 though.

 

[gringo2011]

I'm starting to raise a few questions about our pre-season training regimes.

Last year our season was completely derailed by the major injuries to key players in the preseason.

This year it is happening again.

This can't be just put down to luck or the football gods hate us...

I've watched a few Ratten strategy meetings and he focuses on ... spots are up for grabs, who wants it, this spot is yours if you beat your teammate... surely this encourages players to take unneccessary risks.

Thoughts?

Last year the players did their own program and it was shit, this year we get a pro and lost a player. I think it's just random bad luck to be honest.