List Mgmt. 2022 Trade and Free Agency Thread

[Jivlain]

 

[Sproj]

Just taking my two grandchildren to primary school and overheard two kids in the school yard arguing.

Dom says to Sam. I want your neglected Tonka Truck. He’s been trying to drive off your bogged sand pit for a while.

Sam - I like my Tonka Truck, but what are you gonna give me for it?

Dom - Well, I’ll give you this brand new Matchbox Porsche and a slightly used Matchi Toyota Hilux, but can you throw in your two Matchi Trabants cause I need them to on-trade for some glossy new model Matchi Toyotas.

Sam - If you don’t give me two Matchi Porsches I’ll throw my Tonka Truck in the river, so you’ll never have it.

Dom - oh OK you win.

It is amazing how often you hear this conversation these days. Back in my day, we used to have this kind of conversation with GI Joes but I guess they are politically incorrect now.

 

[M Malice]

It is amazing how often you hear this conversation these days. Back in my day, we used to have this kind of conversation with GI Joes but I guess they are politically incorrect now.

We used to play Cowboys and Indians back in the 60s, little did my 7 year old self know that I was being culturally insensitive.

 

[Fatcat08]

My mate recently went to sell a house. there were two top offers submitted by tender. Instead of taking one of them they decided to try to play them off against one another. One said absolutely not and then pulled out, another in the meantime thought about it but then got accepted for another house they were bidding on at the time and they end up taking and he had to go back to the third person and got $30K less than the original top offers. Happens all the time. I've seen so many people reject offers because it wasn't "what their house was worth" and then months later take a lesser amount. What something is "worth" is always what someone is willing to pay for it and has absolutely no relation whatsoever to what you may think its worth.

anyway back to the completely unrelated trade discussion.

 

[jfn]

100%

Our current picks, especially 21, 25, 34 - 36 are more valuable now with so much playing around us than if we take this to draft night.

I can see 21 moving from us to WB ->FREM ->MELB and finishing up at Collingwood.

The key is we need as close to 3000 points as possible, if not slightly more.
If GWS get pick 1, which is highly likely now, I doubt very much they will bid on Ashcroft.
Currently with the picks we have, we have 3403 points
if picks 21 and 25 are traded in the Dunkley trade and we get back 30 and 39, then we will have 2844 points.

Picks 21 & 34 + Round 1 next year.
For Dunkley + Picks 30 & 39.
Maybe the Bulldogs will blink first in this game of poker.
The need for Pick 21 for Lobb, then Jackson, and then Grundy could force some sort of movement.

 

[M Malice]

My mate recently went to sell a house. there were two top offers submitted by tender. Instead of taking one of them they decided to try to play them off against one another. One said absolutely not and then pulled out, another in the meantime thought about it but then got accepted for another house they were bidding on at the time and they end up taking and he had to go back to the third person and got $30K less than the original top offers. Happens all the time. I've seen so many people reject offers because it wasn't "what their house was worth" and then months later take a lesser amount. What something is "worth" is always what someone is willing to pay for it and has absolutely no relation whatsoever to what you may think its worth.

anyway back to the completely unrelated trade discussion.

Bought and sold a few properties/businesses over the years and in my experience early offers are usually the best offers.

 

[Pns_blister]

My mate recently went to sell a house. there were two top offers submitted by tender. Instead of taking one of them they decided to try to play them off against one another. One said absolutely not and then pulled out, another in the meantime thought about it but then got accepted for another house they were bidding on at the time and they end up taking and he had to go back to the third person and got $30K less than the original top offers. Happens all the time. I've seen so many people reject offers because it wasn't "what their house was worth" and then months later take a lesser amount. What something is "worth" is always what someone is willing to pay for it and has absolutely no relation whatsoever to what you may think its worth.

anyway back to the completely unrelated trade discussion.

I had a mate recently put his house on the market and he didn't get what he wanted so he gave it away for free.

 

[Nathan Barley]

I had a mate recently put his house on the market and he didn't get what he wanted so he gave it away for free.

Did someone offer him unders so he just gave it away to someone else for free to spite him?

 

[Thomasno]

Can you provide something in writing that suggests it doesn't?

All I can I find is that a points deficit will apply to a club's corresponding future round selection depending on the round that their bid-match occurred i.e. if you enter into a deficit to match a first-round bid, you're corresponding first round pick in the next draft would be impacted.

I've seen nothing to suggest that the deficit is applied to a club's next available pick in the next year's draft in circumstances where they've traded the relevant future pick affected by the deficit i.e. the deficit still applies to the club's corresponding future first round pick irrespective if it has been traded to another club.

I don’t know why you’re so insistent on this mate. Think for a second, you don’t need any official writing.

If it worked the way you think it does, then clubs could f*ck other clubs over on purpose by trading them their future 1st and then racking up a massive deficit.

Obviously that’s not how it works.

 

[briztoon]

Future first gone with Dunkley trade.

I thought because we have already traded in a future 2nd rounder this trade period in the GWS pick swap (which has since been traded out to Gold Coast) that we are now free to trade both our Future 1st and Future 2nd.

I could be wrong, but I thought the rule was you can't trade out a Future 1st and Future 2nd from the same draft UNLESS you get a future pick from the same round back in.

I was thinking that was the main reason behind the GWS deal including their future 2nd, to open up both our Future first and second rounders this year.

I may be wrong on that and there are others on here more across the draft rules than I am.

If that's not the case, then we'll have to do other pick swaps to get access to another future to use in the Fletcher bid.

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If you trade you’re future first (F1) round pick, you must keep a F2, F3 & F4.

We got one from GWS, but on traded it, so we’re back to holding one pick in each round. So we can only trade our F1, and must keep the rest.

But, as Twomey reported, clubs are trying to get permission to trade out future F1 & F2 picks.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Not sure what to make of this

 

[Nathan Barley]

So we're 218 points better off disregarding future picks

 

[3KZ is Football]

He's very similar to Luke Hodge.

RYAN LESTER BACK LINE GENERAL!

I think we should give Adams back to Footscray as part of the Dunkley deal.

 

[mattsmob]

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Not sure what to make of this

We've traded out another pick? Hope we got the Doggies approval on this one first

 

[Bucking Beads]

That is insane from Geelong. Makes no sense.

 

[Pns_blister]

Will use one of those picks for Gunston. Future first and 21 for Dunkley. Future second could potentially be used for Dunkley too, or alternatively it can help absorb any deficit incurred by Jaspa and Will

 

[Nathan Barley]

So 21 and future first for Dunkley, a late pick for Gunston and we should be sweet

 

[Pns_blister]

That is insane from Geelong. Makes no sense.

They need 25 for Ollie Henry.

 

[M Malice]

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Not sure what to make of this

Someone with better maths ability say how this helps with the Dunkley deal or is it all about Ashcroft and Fletcher?

 

[mattsmob]

So 21 and future first for Dunkley, a late pick for Gunston and we should be sweet

Would that leave us with a pretty negligible deficit and two second rounders for next year?

 

[mpal6]

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Not sure what to make of this

Dom Ambrogio !!!

We are not worthy !!!

 

[3KZ is Football]

Answerth? We’ve got plenty of his type. Move him on.

 

[pulpdriver]

Does getting an additional second rounder next year mean we can trade a F1 + F2 to Dogs?

 

[mpal6]

My plan is on briztoon !!!

Time to delist them all !!

 

[Pns_blister]

Does getting an additional second rounder next year mean we can trade a F1 + F2 to Dogs?

Correct and pick 21 this year too.

 

[M Malice]

That is insane from Geelong. Makes no sense.

Geelong have a magnificent track record re acquiring the players they need/want, they are definitely sane in this space, they will have something in mind.