List Mgmt. 2022 Trade, Draft, etc thread

[Scythe94]

Dory_77 – might be worth pinning this? Gets updated after every move.

 

[Demon 16]

Not sure we absolutely have to draft a KPF. I still think we can shake loose a Georgiades type. Maybe not this off season, but hopefully next. We have JVR coming through, and although Petty is a gun defender, clearly the coaches don't rate him that highly as a defensive post(15th in the b&f), so can be moved forward where he's looked pretty good. I think best available in the draft is still the way to go.

We’ll definitely pick best available with any early picks.

 

[Demon 16]

I’m becoming more convinced that we are going to attempt to get right near the top of the draft to take someone in particular.

Reports saying we’ve asked for top 7 pick from Freo. We may then even look to upgrade again from there which may be possible with clubs apparently preferring next year’s draft.

I’d love the club to take on the groupthink by going at the players we want in this year’s draft if clubs are overrating next year’s. Whenever there is talk of how amazing a future draft crop is it always turns out to be overblown.

Harry Sheezel is who we are looking at - apparently we have him rated super high.

Although it’s started looking like he’s moving even further up a few draft boards and could be gone by pick 5 now - even pick 2/3.

 

[Crusty Demon]

Harry Sheezel is who we are looking at - apparently we have him rated super high.

Although it’s started looking like he’s moving even further up a few draft boards and could be gone by pick 5 now - even pick 2/3.

Was about to say this kid looks to be the one I'd want after Ashcroft. Fingers crossed we can get high enough to pick him up.

 

[Tulip]

Absolute goal fiend. Get him in.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

Good size and forward craft, never looks panicked. Bit of a worry the set shot kicking like danster168 said, gets no momentum thru set shots. Reckon hes more a Hawkins type than Cloke coz of game smarts.

The questions id have is has he just beaten up on smaller kids, does he have the motivation and scope to become better or is he the type to get comfortable and cruse? Needs to pass the Papley-Passion Test before im willing to give the seal of approval

Having said that I like him far more than Jefferson, Jefferson may never develop as an AFL KPF and become another Watts, Cadman has the tools and frame/body to be a very good KPF in the AFL, clearly the higher floor of the two/far less risk in him, should be making an impact inside 2 years in the system.

Looks pretty good mate, good athleticism, neat field kick.

Contested marking looks a bit hit/miss?

Also he looks like he has plenty of room to get stronger, so not too concerned there.

He looks very Hogan to me, doubt we get a chance to draft him.

Jefferson, worth noting he played through a fractured leg during season and kicked a bag of 4 during (assume similar to Trac) so it's good to see some resilience there - agree he looks a little raw, good upside and good that he marks well (tackling looks a bit weak).

Just go best avail ultimately, nice that we have a young KPF in JVR who hits the packs hard and has performed at VFL level in the wings already.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Looks pretty good mate, good athleticism, neat field kick.

Contested marking looks a bit hit/miss?

Also he looks like he has plenty of room to get stronger, so not too concerned there.

He looks very Hogan to me, doubt we get a chance to draft him.

Jefferson, worth noting he played through a fractured leg during season and kicked a bag of 4 during (assume similar to Trac) so it's good to see some resilience there - agree he looks a little raw, good upside and good that he marks well (tackling looks a bit weak).

Just go best avail ultimately, nice that we have a young KPF in JVR who hits the packs hard and has performed at VFL level in the wings already.

I was actually surprised that he was ranked as high as he was. I hadn't looked at a mock draft til today and Twomey has him going top 5. I would have thought he might have been available ~ pick 10... oh well.

Id be pretty annoyed if we drafted Jefferson inside the top 10 given we wont see anything from him for 2 years +. SO much will depend on how much weight he can actually put on, hes a rake, I just dont where any mass comes from.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Harry Sheezel is who we are looking at - apparently we have him rated super high.

Although it’s started looking like he’s moving even further up a few draft boards and could be gone by pick 5 now - even pick 2/3.

Im off to look now. Thanks mate,

 

[Demon 16]

Im off to look now. Thanks mate,

Just had a read of Cal Twomeys updated draft order that he released yesterday so thanks for that.

He has Sheezel and 4 and Cadman at 5.

Jefferson is at 10.

Another one we like up towards the top is Jhye Clark if you’d like to have a look at him - but we don’t hold him in the same bracket as Sheezel and Wardlaw.

George Wardlaw is the very top name (many believe he’ll translate to AFL better than Ashcroft). His manager (Paul Connors) put him on ice early in the year and kept him there as they didn’t want to go to North - but he’s still fairly likely to be first picked after Ashcroft goes to Bris.

I’ve said too much there but oh well..

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

haha, first minute of this and im left wondering why the **** we'd be interested in this garbage..the rest of the tape is VERY impressive though, the goal at 2:02 is an absolute beauty ..and from deep in the pocket....perfect for us, no wonder we are so keen.

Get Gunston/Sylvia (hopefully with a better work rate) vibes from him.

Looking at the state championship games appears he played mainly midfield but more as a forward for the Dragons. I think I prefer him as a forward but good to have someone like him who you can rotate between forward and mid with confidence.

I like him a lot.

 

[Daemon]

Just had a read of Cal Twomeys updated draft order that he released yesterday so thanks for that.

He has Sheezel and 4 and Cadman at 5.

Jefferson is at 10.

Another one we like up towards the top is Jhye Clark if you’d like to have a look at him - but we don’t hold him in the same bracket as Sheezel and Wardlaw.

George Wardlaw is the very top name (many believe he’ll translate to AFL better than Ashcroft). His manager (Paul Connors) put him on ice early in the year and kept him there as they didn’t want to go to North - but he’s still fairly likely to be first picked after Ashcroft goes to Bris.

I’ve said too much there but oh well..

Thanks for the insight.

 

[Demon 16]

We had him very high earlier in the year but unfortunately he went and played massive finals games for the Dragons this year including the GF.

Recruiters love the kids who stand up in big games so he’s pushed right up the top for everyone now presumably.

 

[LarryDavidNeitz]

Harry Sheezel is who we are looking at - apparently we have him rated super high.

Although it’s started looking like he’s moving even further up a few draft boards and could be gone by pick 5 now - even pick 2/3.

Couldn’t like this anymore- he’s the one I want as well

 

[pjfairbairn]

I heard him interviewd on Trade Radio yday. Described himself as a mix between Connor Rozee

1

Connor Rozee

Age

24

Ht

185cm

Wt

79kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.6

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.6

5star

CL

1.0

3star

D

12.8

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

5.3

3star

M

2.9

3star

T

2.4

3star

CL

1.6

4star

D

16.4

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

8.4

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

3.4

5star

CL

0.8

3star

and Toby Greene

4

Toby Greene

Age

30

Ht

182cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.7

5star

K

12.5

5star

HB

10.2

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

3.0

5star

G

1.2

4star

D

17.5

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

8.0

4star

M

4.8

4star

T

1.0

2star

G

2.3

5star

D

26.6

5star

K

12.4

5star

HB

14.2

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

3.6

5star

G

0.0

1star

up forward, and Pendles in midfield.

 

[LarryDavidNeitz]

haha, first minute of this and im left wondering why the * we'd be interested in this garbage..the rest of the tape is VERY impressive though, the goal at 2:02 is an absolute beauty ..and from deep in the pocket....perfect for us, no wonder we are so keen.

Get Gunston/Sylvia (hopefully with a better work rate) vibes from him.

Looking at the state championship games appears he played mainly midfield but more as a forward for the Dragons. I think I prefer him as a forward but good to have someone like him who you can rotate between forward and mid with confidence.

I like him a lot.

I think we’d be recruiting him as a specialist half forward initially. I’d be over the moon for that reason alone, so sick of playing failed mids with no goalkicking nous as half forwards.

Obviously if he is a star at half forward he’ll get the chance to move into midfield though. Love to see him in the side rotating with Trac through middle and half forward.

 

[Demon 16]

Couldn’t like this anymore- he’s the one I want as well

I mentioned this when you said something about us pushing further up the board with the Jackson picks.

If we think we can get Sheezel, we will throw the kitchen sink at it.

As I said, unfortunately he’s put himself right into contention for the top few picks now - as opposed to somewhere a bit later in the top 10 so unless we get West Coasts pick 2 it is probably unlikely we can get this kid now.

 

[Topkent]

I could easily see us using pick 7 and next year's first of ours to get a pick inside 3-4. GWS and Essendon don't need key forwards. So could potentially use our interest to leverage 2 for 1.

 

[CWaffles]

I could easily see us using pick 7 and next year's first of ours to get a pick inside 3-4. GWS and Essendon don't need key forwards. So could potentially use our interest to leverage 2 for 1.

I think this will certainly be something we look at doing especially if we get a future first as well In the Jackson trade.

Essendon or GWS would certainly be keen to get as much early talent into their lists at they can with their new coaches.

If we can get sheezel I would be very happy

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

I heard him interviewd on Trade Radio yday. Described himself as a mix between Connor Rozee and Toby Greene up forward, and Pendles in midfield.

Not sure about Pendles as a mid, looked fairly plan as one to me, you'd be drafting him based on his work as a forward.

 

[LarryDavidNeitz]

The talk that every club wants to be high in next years draft really helps - will be able to shuffle up by trading next years picks for an upgrade on this years.

I really trust our recruiters and I like the way that if we want someone in the draft we do what we need to get them instead of trying to fight to the death about the perceived value of whoever we’re trading.

 

[DemonZombie_001]

The talk that every club wants to be high in next years draft really helps - will be able to shuffle up by trading next years picks for an upgrade on this years.

I really trust our recruiters and I like the way that if we want someone in the draft we do what we need to get them instead of trying to fight to the death about the perceived value of whoever we’re trading.

Yes, at this point the recruitment team has kicked goals over the last several years so they deserve some faith.

 

[The Dr]

Bedford to GWS apparently


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[Scythe94]

Bedford to GWS apparently


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Bedford AND Hunt gone? A11dAtP0w3R which made you happier, the flag or today?

 

[Scythe94]

With Bedford and Hunt out the door, we really need to be looking at some more inside mids

 

[netslave]

With Bedford and Hunt out the door, we really need to be looking at some more inside mids

That's just room for 2 more rucks to play with Gawn and Grundy, then we can play volleyball in the forward line.

 

[Proper Gander]

I heard him interviewd on Trade Radio yday. Described himself as a mix between Connor Rozee and Toby Greene up forward, and Pendles in midfield.

That’s not a draftee though. What they are describing is a supernatural being with god-like powers