Hopefully Cameron does something surprising with Chol, f2 ( tigers) and some points this year
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I can't see anything positive apart from out and out incompetency. Make yet another opposition team that has crapped on us in the past even stronger that may cost a spot in finals for f all.The only positive is that a future 3rd for our future 4th is some value.
We got a couple more point this year, but negligible. Lost some salary we aren’t really using, and weakened our list depth.
The only other thing I’ll say is that Holland’s draft class is pretty shallow and weak. Not sure we had many better options at the time with our pick, even with hindsight. Unfortunately he didn’t work out for us.
GC, Lions, Hawks close to deal. We will probably get Lions F2? Just guess.Hopefully Cameron does something surprising with Chol, f2 ( tigers) and some points this year
I’m in agreement with youFWIW I think Hollands does very little next year, like Bowes, just the optics aren't great.
In simple terms we have given away a top 10 pick for a 2 spot rise this year and F3 instead of F4. Horrendous trading.I can't see anything positive apart from out and out incompetency. Make yet another opposition team that has crapped on us in the past even stronger that may cost a spot in finals for f all.
More that what we received.Can anyone actually give me another hollands highlight in the three years he’s been here?
Goal on debut, rising star nom & premiership vfl player
What is that worth at the trade table?
Watch him in 2024....we have a habit of incentivizing these sort of guys but unfortunately for other sides.More that what we received.
Carlton would've signed him next year and we would've been handed a 2nd round compo if there year is anything to go by.Not great, but it's that or nothing next like we have seen with Sharp, and those extra points could matter between having and not having a deficit.
C- deal, more on Cameron's level.
You make a very good point, those that we have moved on haven’t set the world on fireHe was a top 10 pick 3 years ago. We haven't given away a top 10 pick, we have given away a underperfoming player for not much. Their draft position does no matter after year 2.
Bowes dogshit as well. Yes we haven't maximised returns but the players aren't setting anything on fire. None of them have done anything.You make a very good point, those that we have moved on haven’t set the world on fire
Brodie was out of favour this year at Freo after a good 2022
2MP had a great first year but seems to be back to his old self in 2023
Scrimshaw BOG average
Hollands ain't doing shit in a forward line. He is way to slow to be effective there.Expect Hollands and Martin to do quite well under the feet of Mackay and Curnow. Hollands was probably our best on in the VFL grand final, we've given him away for nothing and told ourselves we don't need him. So be it, but expectations grow and patience thins
We'll see, he had Dew telling him he wasn't shit since he got here, maybe he just needs a coach to back him in.Hollands ain't doing s**t in a forward line. He is way to slow to be effective there.
King backed him in. Was pathetic in his efforts after being gifted a spot in the best 22.We'll see, he had Dew telling him he wasn't s**t since he got here, maybe he just needs a coach to back him in.
Yeah ok, 6 weeks sample size, can't believe he didn't turn into Simon BlackKing backed him in. Was pathetic in his efforts after being gifted a spot in the best 22.