2024 AFL Awards Season... + Brownlow

[cats_09]

Dempsey is pretty fair, how many votes did he get?

3 in total

2 - Richmind
1 - Essendon


The predictor had him on 8 votes
Richmond - 2; umpires gave him 2
Essendon - 3; umpires gave him 1
Hawthorn - 1; no love from umpires
North - 2; no love from umpires, they preferred North players when we smashed them in Hobart

 

[Baudolino]

I honestly think that's it for the umpires as a Brownlow judges. They've forfeited all their credibility now as being able to decide this on their own.

Proposal: merge the Brownlow with the Leigh Matthews Coaches Trophy (there's too many player of the season awards anyway so this will be a good thing in and of itself) and have a single MVP award each year based on an aggregate of coaches votes, umpires votes and media votes.

 

[cats_09]

Cripps could be the sub, come on halfway through the last quarter and still pick up a vote.

Probably the 3 votes

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I wonder if there's anything the AFL has done differently in regards to the actual measuring and counting of brownlow votes?

Has it got worse since that brownlow betting scandal involving that umpire?

 

[Art Vandelay_]

To my knowledge we have the only back pocket to win the brownlow. Bernie Smith.
In today's game he'd lose an AA spot to some flanker who can't defend and would poll less than 5 votes for a career.

 

[OzeSparky]

I don't mind Daicos at all. Or Neale. These guys all keep their teams competitive.

I just hate players that play for free kicks, Daicos, Weightman, Higgins all of hawthorn.

 

[winty]

Fun fact: Nick Daicos picked up twice as many Brownlow votes than Richmond.

 

[OzeSparky]

To my knowledge we have the only back pocket to win the brownlow. Bernie Smith.
In today's game he'd lose an AA spot to some flanker who can't defend and would poll less than 5 votes for a career.

Gavin wanganeen won it from a back pocket didn’t he?

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I just hate players that play for free kicks, Daicos, Weightman, Higgins all of hawthorn.

I'll challenge Weightman, he's really changed the way he plays and I don't mind him now

 

[Falconx]

We all knew a season like this was inevitable when Wines polled 36 votes in 2021 equalling a Brownlow record. All it took was a bigger name to reach peak stupid levels.

The possibility that we may see a 50-vote season within the next 10 years is absurd.

 

[cats_09]

Maybe the umpires can’t tell the brothers apart…

 

[cats_09]

 

[OzeSparky]

I'll challenge Weightman, he's really changed the way he plays and I don't mind him now

Hope he has. It was bordering on embarrassing the way he dived.

 

[Baudolino]

Yeah, but you're a footy die hard, once it loses the redirect of the average punter it's discrediting the history of the people that won it in years where it was reasonably well adjudicated

This!

It effects the legacy of the sport. When the average casual footy fan looks back at Brownlow results in 10 or 20 years time they're not going to be thinking "gee, the umpires were wildly biased towards Player X during this period of Brownlow history", they're just going to look at the overall Medal tallies and factor that into their appraisal of who were the best players.

 

[Tony Barber]

To my knowledge we have the only back pocket to win the brownlow. Bernie Smith.
In today's game he'd lose an AA spot to some flanker who can't defend and would poll less than 5 votes for a career.

Wanganeen
I played with smiths grandson at north shore. Hard as a cats head.

 

[cats_09]

Damn - N. Daicos is going to end up as the highest Brownlow vote getter of all time by the end of his career isn’t he

 

[Baudolino]

Absolute clown show. The Brownlow needs to either go entirely and be replaced by the Leigh Matthews Trophy or the AFLPA MVP, or it needs to be completely overhauled to take sole voting responsibility out of the umpires' hands.

 

[Baudolino]

Damn - N. Daicos is going to end up as the highest Brownlow vote getter of all time by the end of his career isn’t he

Not hard to do when you get votes simply for existing.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Fun fact: Nick Daicos picked up twice as many Brownlow votes than Richmond.

Hey do you have the team tootals somewhere?

 

[cats_09]

Total votes per team:

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Maybe the umpires can’t tell the brothers apart…

I swear Sam Simpson polled once because he looked like danger from afar with the dark short hair, high socks, number 30-something, similar height iirc

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Total votes per team:

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Wow

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Lol poor bontempelli. What a joke. Such a useless award now.

 

[winty]

We won 4 and a half more games this year, and only had 16 more votes than we did last year.

 

[Tony Barber]

Maybe the umpires can’t tell the brothers apart…

Lord?