Official Club Stuff 2023 AGM - held on Friday 9th Feb 2024

[Powerade 08]

What was interesting afterwards was the discussion with me from some club officials (including one of the guys packing up the chairs) turned into a very John Howard "yeah, a republic, great, but what if it goes badly huh? Best not change anything" vibe.

wow, what a bunch of kunts. Still with that garbage after already being told that Vic clubs have full control and the Crows are getting there soon.

 

[bacharach]

Lol if that's the case, then we have the wrong players. It is a football club not a cult of personality.

When Fos Williams and John Cahill - our greatest ever coaches - left Port, the players didn't leave en masse.

This is where any coach who is worth their salt would step down and explain to their team how they'll benefit from a new coach with fresh ideas. They do this because they put their club and team's interest above their own.

And yet here we are, stuck with numb nuts who has now been contracted for 12 fuxxing years

 

[Tibbs]

Anyone else seriously fed up with Casissi’s name being paraded as a member of the committee that extended Donuts

You just know he’s high on Kock’s list for the vacant board seat

Nah ... He would have to undergo some serious body morphing first!

 

[JimmyBC]

wow, what a bunch of kunts. Still with that garbage after already being told that Vic clubs have full control and the Crows are getting there soon.

They sound scared of it, on the tit so long they've lost the minerals for liberation.

 

[bacharach]

Richo is right in a sense, there is definitely a risk in things going backwards by 'resetting the programme'.

But guess what? We have over a decade of evidence that tells us we are zero chance of winning a premiership under the current programme. Sure, the current programme has proven it will always be around the mark of finals at least and sometimes even more than that. But aren't we the club who claim 'we exist to win premierships'? What's the point of finishing 3rd or 5th or 10th every year? Never first but never last.

It doesn't take too much thinking to realise what the real reason is. If the programme goes backwards and we finish 13th a couple of times, guess what happens? People lose their jobs. The CEO, the footy manager, etc. They like the stability that the current programme delivers because it's in THEIR personal interests to have a coach who never takes the team low enough on the ladder for serious questions to be asked (outside the white noise) and for people to start losing their jobs.

Makes me wonder what the hell the Board are doing.

Does it feel like the Board, the CEO and the footy ops department are operating too much as 1 big team, who have eachothers back and are 'all in it together'?

The CEO is answerable to the board. A board with a proper set of balls would say stiff shit Richo, this group has had their chance and failed - out with the old and in with the new.

Tell you what, if Koch and his lot had to get re-elected by the members every few years, they might be more motivated to make the tough calls.

 

[Duck Farmer]

Hopefully this is the start of serious accountability, of external reviews, of reductions in nepotism and kumbaiya love-ins, and a return to genuine supporter and member engagement.

Great post but don't hold your breath on accountability and external reviews etc. when Koch and Richardson are saying things like "The 50K members that didn't vote are happy with how the club is travelling" and "the system will fall apart if Hinkley is replaced".

They are fully entrenched in their comfy sinecures and think they're all doing a great job and it's the kids who are wrong.

 

[Interstater]

It is mentioned in here (at 5:30) that a reserves side would wear the prison bars.
Was it wishy-washy language or a firm commitment?

Did anyone else pick up on that?

 

[Bump Bailey]

A handful of friends attended and made note that Koch and Hinkley leaned heavily on comic deflections at times.

I get they’re not expecting a US Senate hearing, but it’s hard not to feel like those who attended (and beyond) take the whole thing far more seriously than those at the wheel do.

You can just picture Ken’s reaction to being told he has to attend the AGM can’t you. There’d be some serious eye-rolling, sighing and head shaking wouldn’t there. Friday nights are for dishlickers and banter in the Geelong Lost Grand Finals WhatsApp group.

 

[Duck Farmer]

Tell you what, if Koch and his lot had to get re-elected by the members every few years, they might be more motivated to make the tough calls.

Absolutely. While 80% of the directors remain directly appointed by the AFL (who can also veto the appointment of member-elected directors) there will be no meaningful change as long as the AFL remains happy with the current state of affairs. As much as I welcome the election of Tredrea as the voice of the members, the only real way members can effect change is by voting with their wallets and stop buying memberships. If it looks like a return to tarpland is on the cards, the AFL will chuck out Koch and his cronies quicker than you can chug a flat aspartame cola.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

This year? He became that a season and a half ago.

Bill Stephen still had him if you add together multiple stints at different clubs.

He goes past Stephen in round 11 from memory.

 

[Powerade 08]

I am happy to give Kent Hinkley all these records whether he holds them officially or not. He will get there eventually anyway.

 

[tribey]

He also made reference to the fact that they knew what was happening in the membership base and how divisive Ken’s extension was going to be, and it wasn’t a decision they made lightly.

And there’s the rub. At most organisations worth their salt, such crucial decisions serve as referenda as to whether or not those responsible for them continue to make them.

Anyone who agreed to the latest extension, let alone the previous few, should already have one foot out the door.

Instead it’s an enduring culture of hiding behind superficial truisms such as, “oh well, they’re hard to win”, as if the myriad Showdown and September flameouts were impossible to foresee, and the dice merely didn’t fall our way.

Much harder when ensconced board members keep vouching for a failed coach.

 

[Port 2004]

Yeah, could be setting him up to be the fall guy when it eventually collapses

But Koch does love his yes men and I reckon Dom’s head has nearly fallen off from all the nodding

Dom appears to be as weak as urine. Has never impressed me one bit.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

I was one of those questioners.

The first question was framed as us being one of the interstate clubs who had an AFL appointed board - Koch answered that the board isn't dictated to us, just ratified, which ignored the premise of the question which was around how we get more member appointed positions on the board. I wasn't going to ask anything, but I wasn't satisfied with the answer given to that guy, so I ended up being riled up enough that I forgot I didn't like public speaking. I can't remember what I said verbatim, but the below is my recollection.

I said something along the lines of we have two member elected board positions, given we no longer have any debt to the AFL what do we need to do to we need to do to get more member appointed board positions? Made the point that Victorian clubs have full control of their boards and it works for them, so why not us? The answer was Koch turning to Jamie Retsas saying that we need to amend our constitution.

The same question REH asked David last year and David gave him a "oh is that the case" response.

Sounding like filibustering now.

The question about this and David's response meant I had to respond to it given I asked the question last year, but it meant I couldn't ask my preferred question, which Chewy316 was telling me I could not ask. It was;

To paraphrase our old ex video analyst and assistant coach bRyan MacMillan, I have a Super Important question to ask. Will the new AFL rule change to whistling, severely challenge our robust whistler's on the interchange bench to do their job properly? Do we have well defined strategies to get around the ban??

I did ask the same question, just left out the reference to bRyan, to CD after the meeting and he laughed. He said that Chad and Rizza are loud whistlers and whistle a lot. I asked why the hell was such a rule introduced, and he said Foxtel have complained about it a lot over the previous couple of years.

Re the 31st of October 2028 clause in the crow's constitution. I got up and said it was me who asked about it last year, and that I would send a copy of their constitution to Richo so they can study it. ( I will also send a copy to Tredders and Jamie Restas). After the meeting David Koch came up to me and Chewy and we talked about it and David was confused, because a question prior to yours Cheesey Mac was about AFL licenses and if all 18 clubs had a license with the AFL. He thought the question was about taking over full control of licence, not so much about members voting in more or all the directors.

Koch couldn't remember a question about getting back a licence off the AFL last year. When he chatted with me, I said its about the clause that removes the AFL from the crows constitution as a member and its called the Development Grant Completion Date tying in with 2028 being the last year of instalment of buying back the sub licences from the SANFL. He then remembered that I showed him a few clauses last year after the AGM was over. He didn't make a commitment to any change, but I said I will send a copy of the crows constitution to Richo and Restas and get them to discuss it with you. I will also talk to Tredders about it as he is a member elected director and he is representing what us members want.

And yes to change from 2 to say 5 or all 10 directors being elected by members, the constitution has to be changed and clause 7 says it has to be approved by AFL.

So its a 2 step process to get more member elected directors. Lobby the club and convince them its the right idea and they then enthausatically take the proposal to the AFL. Koch said the club has a great relationship with the AFL, so they will probably then agree if its 3 or 5 or 6. Can't see either the club or AFL backing all 10 to be member elected.

In our constitution Members = Directors. Buy a membership and you are a club member not a Member of PAFC Limited. The Corporations Act talks about Members, not club members.



After mentioning that, I asked my question about the lights and using them more often for night events, not just night games.

Koch in his address was talking about increasing revenue streams and the new proposed development and I looked out to my right and saw the light tower and thought of more night games and events, being potential bigger revenue streams. So when Koch had mentioned the lights and becoming a boutique AFLW and AFL Reserves stadium as his answer to the question, before the 2 questions re licence and member elected directors, I thought given I got up to point out I raised the board structure question last year, I might as well ask about the use of lights and night events.

I knew that night games are going to be controversial with residents especially if we can get 8k to 10k crowds compared to 2k on a Saturday or Sunday arvo, so asked if we had a number of games and events in mind we would have?. Koch and Richo said the club wants them, but it is going to be a balancing act with residents and council as to how hard we can push it.

I have seen the lights on at 3/4 level and maybe 1/2 level and they are bloody bright. Richo said only Adelaide Oval and Alberton Oval have a 1,400 Lux capacity. He said one night he was at the top of Torrens Rd when they tested them at 100% and it was bloody bright and they stood out like a beacon.

I mentioned concerts and used a community concert say to raise money for our community programs, as that might attract 5k to 10k, as I didn't want to use the spectre of a 30,000, 31 December 1996 Jimmy Barnes concert as the prime example, as a regular concert series of that size would really piss off the residents.

But to my delight Koch said he would like nothing more than repeating the 1991 Cold Chisel did at Alberton Oval. I don't know of that one, but do know of Jimmy's 1996 one. When Koch talked to me about the constitution, I told him when I mentioned concerts, I was really thinking of the 1996 one, but knew it would be a hard sell with the council. We talked a bit about the potential for concerts.

Earlier this year JimmyBC said the club should use Jimmy Barnes more. The search engine isn't working properly so I cant find that post and my response that we should get as part of the induction process for new players to PAFC and the Port area, get Jimmy to do something at the Largs Pier Hotel with the new players, tell stories about his time in the Port as well as watching the club and sing 3 or 4 songs as well as the one he wrote a few years ago about the Largs Pier Hotel. I also said the parents might be more impressed than the young players.

Now that I know Koch is such a fan, and we have Tredders to listen to us, I am going to lobby them to talk to Jimmy about doing something with the club.

I took some notes about finances and other stuff and I will post them when I get back from the family day. I want to get a tour of the new facilities.

 

[Janus]

Both Davies and Ken specifically blamed last years s**t show on the defence being undermanned/undersized.

No mention of the disappearing midfield or peanut brittle fragility of the entire side when the wick got lit.

You might find that our young midfield disappeared because for 23 rounds it was forced to cover for said defence being undermanned/undersized. If I was constantly sick, missing shifts at work and generally not doing my job and management asked you to cover for me, I don’t care how good you are, you’re going to have a nervous breakdown…especially when the wick gets lit.

 

[Mutha F]

Went very hard litigating that point after the thing had ended.

“If you remove the coach you aren’t just removing the coach, you’re resetting the whole program, you’ll lose some players, others won’t come if they don’t know who the coach is. There’s not one thing that can guarantee you a premiership”

He also made reference to the fact that they knew what was happening in the membership base and how divisive Ken’s extension was going to be, and it wasn’t a decision they made lightly. I took the comments to mean that they don’t want to change tack while the club is sitting in the top 4, regardless of exposed form in the finals. So, basically, cross your fingers and hope that Ken manages to win a flag because until the next contract is up I don’t see anyone ousting him or falling on their own swords.

It's an excellent point from Richardson. Must be a very smart guy.

Look what happened after Collingwood got rid of a club legend and replaced him with some untried loser called Mcrae. Complete disaster! Much better going with same bloke who has consistently failed for 11 years.

Get excited power fans, things are looking up for ol Gil Hinkley

 

[Chewy316]

The question about this and David's response meant I had to respond to it given I asked the question last year, but it meant I couldn't ask my preferred question, which Chewy316 was telling me I could not ask. It was;

To paraphrase our old ex video analyst and assistant coach bRyan MacMillan, I have a Super Important question to ask. Will the new AFL rule change to whistling, severely challenge our robust whistler's on the interchange bench to do their job properly? Do we have well defined strategies to get around the ban??

I did ask the same question, just left out the reference to bRyan, to CD after the meeting and he laughed. He said that Chad and Rizza are loud whistlers and whistle a lot. I asked why the hell was such a rule introduced, and he said Foxtel have complained about it a lot over the previous couple of years.

Re the 31st of October 2028 clause in the crow's constitution. I got up and said it was me who asked about it last year, and that I would send a copy of their constitution to Richo so they can study it. ( I will also send a copy to Tredders and Jamie Restas). After the meeting David Koch came up to me and Chewy and we talked about it and David was confused, because a question prior to yours Cheesey Mac was about AFL licenses and if all 18 clubs had a license with the AFL. He thought the question was about taking over full control of licence, not so much about members voting in more or all the directors.

Koch couldn't remember a question about getting back a licence off the AFL last year. When he chatted with me, I said its about the clause that removes the AFL from the crows constitution and its called the Development Grant Completion Date tying in with 2028 being the last year of instalment of buying back the sub licences from the SANFL. He then remembered that I showed him a few clauses last year after the AGM was over. He didn't make a commitment to any change, but I said I will send a copy of the crows constitution to Richo and Restas and get them to discuss it with you. I will also talk to Tredders about it as he is a member elected director and he is representing what us members want.

And yes to change from 2 to say 5 or all 10 directors being elected by members, the constitution has to be changed and clause 7 says it has to be approved by AFL.

So its a 2 step process to get more member elected directors. Lobby the club and convince them its the right idea and they then enthausatically take the proposal to the AFL. Koch said the club has a great relationship with the AFL, so they will probably then agree if its 3 or 5 or 6. Can't see either the club or AFL backing all 10 to be member elected.

In our constitution Members = Directors. Buy a membership and you are a club member not a Member of PAFC Limited. The Corporations Act talks about Members, not club members.

View attachment 1902463

After mentioning that, I asked my question about the lights and using them more often for night events, not just night games.

Koch in his address was talking about increasing revenue streams and the new proposed development and I looked out to my right and saw the light tower and thought of more night games and events, being potential bigger revenue streams. So when Koch had mentioned the lights and becoming a boutique AFLW and AFL Reserves stadium as his answer to the question, before the 2 questions re licence and member elected directors, I thought given I got up to point out I raised the board structure question last year, I might as well ask about the use of lights and night events.

I knew that night games are going to be controversial with residents especially if we can get 8k to 10k crowds compared to 2k on a Saturday or Sunday arvo, so asked if we had a number of games and events in mind we would have?. Koch and Richo said the club wants them, but it is going to be a balancing act with residents and council as to how hard we can push it.

I have seen the lights on at 3/4 level and maybe 1/2 level and they are bloody bright. Richo said only Adelaide Oval and Alberton Oval have a 1,400 Lux capacity. He said one night he was at the top of Torrens Rd when they tested them at 100% and it was bloody bright and they stood out like a beacon.

I mentioned concerts and used a community concert say to raise money for our community programs, as that might attract 5k to 10k, as I didn't want to use the spectre of a 30,000, 31 December 1996 Jimmy Barnes concert as the prime example, as a regular concert series of that size would really piss off the residents.

But to my delight Koch said he would like nothing more than repeating the 1991 Cold Chisel did at Alberton Oval. I don't know of that one, but do know of Jimmy's 1996 one. When Koch talked to me about the constitution, I told him when I mentioned concerts, I was really thinking of the 1996 one, but knew it would be a hard sell with the council. We talked a bit about the potential for concerts.

Earlier this year JimmyBC said the club should use Jimmy Barnes more. The search engine isn't working properly so I cant find that post and my response that we should get as part of the induction process for new players to PAFC and the Port area, get Jimmy to do something at the Largs Pier Hotel with the new players, tell stories about his time in the Port as well as watching the club and sing 3 or 4 songs as well as the one he wrote a few years ago about the Largs Pier Hotel. I also said the parents might be more impressed than the young players.

Now that I know Koch is such a fan, and we have Tredders to listen to us, I am going to lobby them to talk to Jimmy about doing something with the club.

I took some notes about finances and other stuff and I will post them when I get back from the family day. I want to get a tour of the new facilities.

I thought your question with whistling was in reference to whether it would mean Ken would have to go back into the coaches' box. That's why I didn't want you to ask it because I thought it would create too much angst.

 

[NoddyHolder]

But to my delight Koch said he would like nothing more than repeating the 1991 Cold Chisel did at Alberton Oval. I don't know of that one, but do know of Jimmy's 1996 one. When Koch talked to me about the constitution, I told him when I mentioned concerts, I was really thinking of the 1996 one, but knew it would be a hard sell with the council. We talked a bit about the potential for concerts.

I think Koch is full of shit here. I'm pretty sure Cold Chisel didn't play any concerts between breaking up in 83 and the late 90s (happy to be corrected). I have no memory of them ever playing at Alberton. I remember Jimmy Barnes playing there in 96 because I was at a party at a mate's place, whose house backs onto the oval.
I looked up their concert archive to see if I was wrong, and there's no record of a concert at Alberton.

I don't think you can trust anything that comes out of Koch's mouth, on any topic. It's almost like he's a professional bullshitter.

 

[Interstater]

The question about this and David's response meant I had to respond to it given I asked the question last year, but it meant I couldn't ask my preferred question, which Chewy316 was telling me I could not ask. It was;

To paraphrase our old ex video analyst and assistant coach bRyan MacMillan, I have a Super Important question to ask. Will the new AFL rule change to whistling, severely challenge our robust whistler's on the interchange bench to do their job properly? Do we have well defined strategies to get around the ban??

I did ask the same question, just left out the reference to bRyan, to CD after the meeting and he laughed. He said that Chad and Rizza are loud whistlers and whistle a lot. I asked why the hell was such a rule introduced, and he said Foxtel have complained about it a lot over the previous couple of years.

Re the 31st of October 2028 clause in the crow's constitution. I got up and said it was me who asked about it last year, and that I would send a copy of their constitution to Richo so they can study it. ( I will also send a copy to Tredders and Jamie Restas). After the meeting David Koch came up to me and Chewy and we talked about it and David was confused, because a question prior to yours Cheesey Mac was about AFL licenses and if all 18 clubs had a license with the AFL. He thought the question was about taking over full control of licence, not so much about members voting in more or all the directors.

Koch couldn't remember a question about getting back a licence off the AFL last year. When he chatted with me, I said its about the clause that removes the AFL from the crows constitution and its called the Development Grant Completion Date tying in with 2028 being the last year of instalment of buying back the sub licences from the SANFL. He then remembered that I showed him a few clauses last year after the AGM was over. He didn't make a commitment to any change, but I said I will send a copy of the crows constitution to Richo and Restas and get them to discuss it with you. I will also talk to Tredders about it as he is a member elected director and he is representing what us members want.

And yes to change from 2 to say 5 or all 10 directors being elected by members, the constitution has to be changed and clause 7 says it has to be approved by AFL.

So its a 2 step process to get more member elected directors. Lobby the club and convince them its the right idea and they then enthausatically take the proposal to the AFL. Koch said the club has a great relationship with the AFL, so they will probably then agree if its 3 or 5 or 6. Can't see either the club or AFL backing all 10 to be member elected.

In our constitution Members = Directors. Buy a membership and you are a club member not a Member of PAFC Limited. The Corporations Act talks about Members, not club members.

View attachment 1902463

After mentioning that, I asked my question about the lights and using them more often for night events, not just night games.

Koch in his address was talking about increasing revenue streams and the new proposed development and I looked out to my right and saw the light tower and thought of more night games and events, being potential bigger revenue streams. So when Koch had mentioned the lights and becoming a boutique AFLW and AFL Reserves stadium as his answer to the question, before the 2 questions re licence and member elected directors, I thought given I got up to point out I raised the board structure question last year, I might as well ask about the use of lights and night events.

I knew that night games are going to be controversial with residents especially if we can get 8k to 10k crowds compared to 2k on a Saturday or Sunday arvo, so asked if we had a number of games and events in mind we would have?. Koch and Richo said the club wants them, but it is going to be a balancing act with residents and council as to how hard we can push it.

I have seen the lights on at 3/4 level and maybe 1/2 level and they are bloody bright. Richo said only Adelaide Oval and Alberton Oval have a 1,400 Lux capacity. He said one night he was at the top of Torrens Rd when they tested them at 100% and it was bloody bright and they stood out like a beacon.

I mentioned concerts and used a community concert say to raise money for our community programs, as that might attract 5k to 10k, as I didn't want to use the spectre of a 30,000, 31 December 1996 Jimmy Barnes concert as the prime example, as a regular concert series of that size would really piss off the residents.

But to my delight Koch said he would like nothing more than repeating the 1991 Cold Chisel did at Alberton Oval. I don't know of that one, but do know of Jimmy's 1996 one. When Koch talked to me about the constitution, I told him when I mentioned concerts, I was really thinking of the 1996 one, but knew it would be a hard sell with the council. We talked a bit about the potential for concerts.

Earlier this year JimmyBC said the club should use Jimmy Barnes more. The search engine isn't working properly so I cant find that post and my response that we should get as part of the induction process for new players to PAFC and the Port area, get Jimmy to do something at the Largs Pier Hotel with the new players, tell stories about his time in the Port as well as watching the club and sing 3 or 4 songs as well as the one he wrote a few years ago about the Largs Pier Hotel. I also said the parents might be more impressed than the young players.

Now that I know Koch is such a fan, and we have Tredders to listen to us, I am going to lobby them to talk to Jimmy about doing something with the club.

I took some notes about finances and other stuff and I will post them when I get back from the family day. I want to get a tour of the new facilities.

If I remember correctly, Jimmy mentioned in 2020 that if we made the grand final he would sing at it.

Not sure what his plans are for doing gigs after his recent heart issues, at the moment I'm just happy he is recovering well.
Thanks for the recap from the AGM, I'm much clearer on the situation now.

Would love to see us get to 5-5 on the board by 2028, even if the Crows do go to 10-0, although I'm sure they will still give us a ribbing for it.

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On the other topic, I was near the front at the 1996 New Years Eve concert at Alberton, the only other band I remember on the night was Chunky Custard. Had the poster from that concert on the wall for many years, will have to try and dig it up.

AFAIK Cold Chisel never performed at Alberton, I think I would have known.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

It is mentioned in here (at 5:30) that a reserves side would wear the prison bars.
Was it wishy-washy language or a firm commitment?

Did anyone else pick up on that?

I got the impression that we will play in the VFL comp first.

There is nothing stopping us being a black and white side there given Southport and Collingwood are. Plus there are other colour double ups.

It would mean if we play a year or two in VFL with them, it would make no sense for the AFL to ban them from the new AFL reserves comp.

Plus Jeff Browne is now Collingwood president and Richo confirmed we already have the right to wear them for this year's home showdown.

For those who have forgotten or don't know, Jeff Browne was the AFL's legal counsel between about 1984 and 2006, before McGuire took him up to Sydney when he became Ch 9's CEO. McGuire got bonned, Browne stayed on, eventually running Ch 9 Melbourne and being a Nine Network board member.

Browne was an external legal counsel, and it wasnt until he went to Sydney that the AFL employed internally a legal counsel. He wrote the rules and regulations for the AFL, which included club licences and stuff on club logos and trademarks being assigned to the AFL.,

McGuire would jump up and down and said he would take it to court. Browne knows where the legal holes are over this issue, so a small concession makes sense in his opinion.

So these two combined reasons is why I think the club is bullish that we would wear the PB every game at Alberton, after we leave the SANFL.

 

[Poo Eckert]

Sounds so depressing that change is so far away. They probably want former players to go via the members vote to stop the average fan getting onto the board!

It’s sounds like the clique of all clique

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

If I remember correctly, Jimmy mentioned in 2020 that if we made the grand final he would sing at it.

Not sure what his plans after for doing gigs after his recent heart issues, at the moment I'm just happy he is recovering well.

Thanks for the recap from the AGM, I'm much clearer on the situation now.

Would love to see us get to 5-5 on the board by 2028, even if the Crows do go to 10-0, although I'm sure they will still give us a ribbing for it.

Crows wont go 10-0, or if they do its a long way off. They still have too many SANFL ties and keeping the great unwashed at a distance. They have progressed over 20 years as their fans have finally stood up and not worried about being like Port

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

I thought your question with whistling was in reference to whether it would mean Ken would have to go back into the coaches' box. That's why I didn't want you to ask it because I thought it would create too much angst.

My main thinking was to just have a laugh, and I was mainly thinking of Rizza's work, but that would have been a bit of serendipity if people saw it as Ken off the bench question.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

If I remember correctly, Jimmy mentioned in 2020 that if we made the grand final he would sing at it.

Not sure what his plans after for doing gigs after his recent heart issues, at the moment I'm just happy he is recovering well.

Thanks for the recap from the AGM, I'm much clearer on the situation now.

Would love to see us get to 5-5 on the board by 2028, even if the Crows do go to 10-0, although I'm sure they will still give us a ribbing for it.

Yes, and for free and that's why JimmyBC raised it and said we should do more with Jimmy.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

I think Koch is full of s**t here. I'm pretty sure Cold Chisel didn't play any concerts between breaking up in 83 and the late 90s (happy to be corrected). I have no memory of them ever playing at Alberton. I remember Jimmy Barnes playing there in 96 because I was at a party at a mate's place, whose house backs onto the oval.
I looked up their concert archive to see if I was wrong, and there's no record of a concert at Alberton.

I don't think you can trust anything that comes out of Koch's mouth, on any topic. It's almost like he's a professional bullshitter.

I reckon Koch meant 1996 Jimmy's concert and not Chisel's.

I was living in Sydney both in 1991 and 1996 and it wasn't until about 7 or 8 years ago that I found out about the 1996 concert, so I didn't question his 1991 call.

You are right Chisel didn't play Alberton in 1991. They played 1 show in 1993 and that was at the Woolloomooloo Hotel in Sydney and Koch could have gone to both and mixed that up with Jimmy's 1996 concert.

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