Official Club Stuff 2023 AGM - held on Friday 9th Feb 2024

[Bump Bailey]

Went very hard litigating that point after the thing had ended.

“If you remove the coach you aren’t just removing the coach, you’re resetting the whole program, you’ll lose some players, others won’t come if they don’t know who the coach is. There’s not one thing that can guarantee you a premiership”

He also made reference to the fact that they knew what was happening in the membership base and how divisive Ken’s extension was going to be, and it wasn’t a decision they made lightly. I took the comments to mean that they don’t want to change tack while the club is sitting in the top 4, regardless of exposed form in the finals. So, basically, cross your fingers and hope that Ken manages to win a flag because until the next contract is up I don’t see anyone ousting him or falling on their own swords.

What a load of absolute shit, honestly. Through the cult of Ken, the coach and players gave effectively formed a segregated splinter cell away from the main body of the organisation. One that can’t be disrupted.

So they effectively rule the roost. I get the players are probably the most singularly important asset to a footy club, but it’s not their club to run. Tail wagging the dog is a huge part of Port’s entrenched mediocrity.

 

[PA88]

Went very hard litigating that point after the thing had ended.

“If you remove the coach you aren’t just removing the coach, you’re resetting the whole program, you’ll lose some players, others won’t come if they don’t know who the coach is. There’s not one thing that can guarantee you a premiership”

He also made reference to the fact that they knew what was happening in the membership base and how divisive Ken’s extension was going to be, and it wasn’t a decision they made lightly. I took the comments to mean that they don’t want to change tack while the club is sitting in the top 4, regardless of exposed form in the finals. So, basically, cross your fingers and hope that Ken manages to win a flag because until the next contract is up I don’t see anyone ousting him or falling on their own swords.

They are chasing hoping for success.

 

[Rexie J]

Certainly Richardson gave the impression that they fear the team falling apart if Hinkley is replaced.

Oh FFS!!

 

[Duck Farmer]

Both Davies and Ken specifically blamed last years s**t show on the defence being undermanned/undersized.

You mean the list Hinkley has overseen and completely rebuilt multiple times during his 11 year reign to be "the best list I've ever had in my time at the club" had glaring structural deficiencies and couldn't be expected to stand up in finals?

I refuse to believe such a thing could happen under the watch of the winningest coach Port Adelaide has had over its AFL journey.

 

[Rexie J]

Transcript of the question at the end:

Kochie: "are we all done?... Esava Ratagolea, for anyone who wants to compete on the bench press with him in the new gym, (sensible chuckles), uh one question here:"

(I picked up my phone at this point and I couldn't hear the first part of her question on playback, I think it was about how we're doing well financially, off the field)

#sackhinkley Lady, angrily: "...but from a football point of view, we don't beat the Crows, we don't play finals well, consistently, are you comfortable with our coach saying "finals are scary"? Are you comfortable with our coach saying "I hope they remember we beat them by 52 points last time"? (referring to the Brisbane qualifying final), are you comfortable with that? And do you think it was dumb with that reappointment? Did we not look at anyone else?"

(louder than expected applause)

Kochie: "yes we did, we're not comfortable with it... (awkward silence)

(The Lady keeps interjecting and I can't hear what she's asking, she initially had a microphone, then didn't)

Kochie: "uhhh... we're very happy to have all views, we took a whole football club decision to reappoint Ken and Ken has the confidence of the players"

(more interjecting that I can't hear)

Kochie: "So so we took a recommendation and a view was done by our football committee, which included Dom Cassisi, erm..."

(more interjecting that I can't hear)

Kochie: "I understand your frustration, don't think that we're not equally as frustrated. Years ago, when we were and I said at the time, we were a mediocre club, and we were stuck in that 9th/10th, remember those few years, and we've made significant change in our playing group, with bringing in players like Butters, Rozee and Duursma, and we were heavily criticised for trading a number of our star players, who we didn't think fit the culture going forward. We're now stuck, I would...ummm...through the last four years, top 4, so we're not stuck at mediocre, we're stuck at good and not great, and it means we have to do something different to get great. So we think we have it. We think we've done it, through our list managing, through a generational change in our leadership group on the field..."

(more interjecting that I can't hear)

(some other fella at the back pipes up "can you give her a microphone please!")

(more interjecting that I can't hear)

Richo takes over: "There's a whole lot of things you have to do to in order to give yourself a chance to win a premiership. There's not one thing you can do that's going to guarantee that you're going to win a premiership. All of those things if you look at our football program, (something else I can't quite hear), if you look at our list management, if you look at our playing list, if you look at the talent that we have and the collective coaching, there's a whole lot of things you have to do to give yourself a chance and if you don't do those things, then you have got no chance, we've got a football program that has great people, we're doing a lot of things right...but, absolutely, there are things that we have to improve and we have to get better at. And, as Chris and Kenny went through, last year, we had a couple of clear deficiencies, we can't do anything about last year, what we can do now is focus on what we can do in 2024, and all I would say is: if you're not excited about what you're seeing in 2024 with our playing group and our football program, well I'm sorry but, you're not looking hard enough, because we've got really exciting football program"

(someone else interjecting "be excited? 11 years we've 'been exited'!")

Another lady is given a microphone, and has a comment more so than a question, and...that was it

Being lectured by Richardson on how to win a premiership. WTF!

There are no words........

 

[Duck Farmer]

Richo: “If you remove the coach you aren’t just removing the coach, you’re resetting the whole program”

You mean the program that is riddled with underperforming barnacles and hasn't managed to get to a grand final in 17 years?

Oh no, what will we do!

 

[Duck Farmer]

Kochie: "I understand your frustration, don't think that we're not equally as frustrated. Years ago, when we were and I said at the time, we were a mediocre club, and we were stuck in that 9th/10th, remember those few years, and we've made significant change in our playing group, with bringing in players like Butters, Rozee and Duursma

lol - didn't he get the memo on Duursma?

 

[Schulzenfest]

Ken Hinkley this year will become the longest serving coach in history to have never made a grand final. There is simply no one worse if that's the KPI. "Who ya gonna get?" Answer: anyone.

This year? He became that a season and a half ago.

 

[Rexie J]

Many thanks to those BF posters who attended the AGM and have given such detailed info.

Greatly appreciated.

Fortunately I have greater faith in those posters than the current administration.

Rhetorical question but do Richardson, Koch, Hinkley ever listen to themselves. Richardson especially.

 

[Gryllis]

If you remove the coach you aren’t just removing the coach, you’re resetting the whole program, you’ll lose some players, others won’t come if they don’t know who the coach is.

True, and that's exactly what should have happened years ago, Richo.

Have a look at Collingwood. A reset with a new coach. They lost some senior players - the ones they wanted to lose - and also gained some players. Then won a premiership.

 

[Interstater]

Look, I would accept moving Ken into a player development role beside a new senior coach, but he simply is not a competent tactical coach.

Imagine making Choco senior coach for the next 5 years with Ken as player development coach.
I would go down to the club today and pay for 5 years worth of memberships and go to every game.

Another 2 years of same old, judge me on the good bits bullshit, yeh nah, let me know when its over.
Wont get fooled again.

 

[PowerLil]

This year? He became that a season and a half ago.

That was at one club. This year he breaks the record held by Rodney Eade I believe.

 

[powermacs]

I don't care about her reasons. The POW is a dilapidated club asset. I wonder how its debt is going and where it fits in the big scheme of our debt being reduced below 4M.

If it was in debt or loosing money it wouldn’t be open.
If the lights are on and the pensioner pianos are still playing it’s making money.
So many great places to eat at the port now, the POW would be the last place I’d want to go.

 

[ibd77]

So many great places to eat at the port now, the POW would be the last place I’d want to go.

Not wrong there. Went the British for dinner. Not many people there but the food was top notch and not expensive either.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Certainly Richardson gave the impression that they fear the team falling apart if Hinkley is replaced.

Lol if that's the case, then we have the wrong players. It is a football club not a cult of personality.

When Fos Williams and John Cahill - our greatest ever coaches - left Port, the players didn't leave en masse.

 

[TeeKray]

Richo is right in a sense, there is definitely a risk in things going backwards by 'resetting the programme'.

But guess what? We have over a decade of evidence that tells us we are zero chance of winning a premiership under the current programme. Sure, the current programme has proven it will always be around the mark of finals at least and sometimes even more than that. But aren't we the club who claim 'we exist to win premierships'? What's the point of finishing 3rd or 5th or 10th every year? Never first but never last.

It doesn't take too much thinking to realise what the real reason is. If the programme goes backwards and we finish 13th a couple of times, guess what happens? People lose their jobs. The CEO, the footy manager, etc. They like the stability that the current programme delivers because it's in THEIR personal interests to have a coach who never takes the team low enough on the ladder for serious questions to be asked (outside the white noise) and for people to start losing their jobs.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Many thanks to those BF posters who attended the AGM and have given such detailed info.

Greatly appreciated.

Fortunately I have greater faith in those posters than the current administration.

Rhetorical question but do Richardson, Koch, Hinkley ever listen to themselves. Richardson especially.

When they walk they slosh because of the bathwater they've been drinking.

 

[bow and arrow]

Well then Einstein, don't promise 3 in 5 years and get bent out of shape when members express their frustration.

What about trying a new coach! We've tried everything else!

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[crafty_bernardo]

11 years and zero grand final appearances, but they don't want to reset the program? lol

Don't worry everyone. Some top 4 finishes, we are almost there! Can't risk the change!

 

[Bump Bailey]

Look, I would accept moving Ken into a player development role beside a new senior coach, but he simply is not a competent tactical coach.

Imagine making Choco senior coach for the next 5 years with Ken as player development coach.
I would go down to the club today and pay for 5 years worth of memberships and go to every game.

Another 2 years of same old, judge me on the good bits bullshit, yeh nah, let me know when its over.
Wont get fooled again.

He needs to be gone, full stop. There is no way any incoming senior coach is going to want him hanging around in any capacity, potentially being undermined. Mark Williams had Ken figured out years ago and would kick his ass to the curb instantly.

 

[bow and arrow]

How can we be run by a group of people terrified of change. Unbelievable!

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[TazD]

How can we be run by a group of people terrified of change. Unbelievable!

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Because change is admitting they were wrong and certain egos can't handle that.

 

[Harlott]

In answer to the bolded part - no.

They said a few times that we were spending 99.9% of our soft cap. So the current inability to get it done from a coaching and off-field perspective isn’t based on the financials or lack of spend, it’s based on the fact that they’ve invested in the wrong people and feel that they’re too close to succeeding to change it now (which after 11 years with the same coach feels like folly to me, but I’m only white noise).

100% this

 

[Harlott]

Went very hard litigating that point after the thing had ended.

“If you remove the coach you aren’t just removing the coach, you’re resetting the whole program, you’ll lose some players, others won’t come if they don’t know who the coach is. There’s not one thing that can guarantee you a premiership”

He also made reference to the fact that they knew what was happening in the membership base and how divisive Ken’s extension was going to be, and it wasn’t a decision they made lightly. I took the comments to mean that they don’t want to change tack while the club is sitting in the top 4, regardless of exposed form in the finals. So, basically, cross your fingers and hope that Ken manages to win a flag because until the next contract is up I don’t see anyone ousting him or falling on their own swords.

What a gutless gutless stance

 

[Contested Marx]

You'd think a financial mastermind like Koch would spot a sunk cost fallacy Hey