Prediction 2023 - Best 22 + Emergencies - Rolling

[JuddgementDay]

I think Ed Curnow will play a role in the side this year as the Sub if the AFL go ahead with a sub again. He's ideal for the role, he's a natural athlete so he won't lose fitness if he misses a few weeks by playing as sub. He can play on the ball and wing but could also pinch hit in defence and he's a capable forward so he can come on and replace most players. Saves us playing a young player as sub and having them miss games which isn't a good thing.

If there is 5 on the bench then it's going to be TDK and Pittonet in the team 100%. I wish the AFL clarified this before teams put their list together as a 5 player bench means teams will be wanting to carry an extra ruckman. The AFL should also give teams another list spot. If they make a surprise rule change with 5 on the bench then this is really unprofessional from the AFL.

Thinking about the team going forward, there are going to be some quality defenders missing out. I wonder if any will be pushing up into other positions. It must be tempting to have Docherty as part of the on ball group or Williams to a wing. I've picked some teams and they don't have Boyd or Newman in them which is tough as both are really good players, I can see them wanting Boyd in the side, I want him in the side but it's hard with a fully fit list.

Midfield I think will be the same as well, bursting with quality players, especially if you add Docherty into the mix as he was at the end of last season. Even with Setterfield going out I can see Dow pushing just a little harder again next year and I think it's going to be really hard to keep Carroll out of the side. IMO I see Carroll as the bolter for next season.

It will be good to see some roles settled, thinking of the forward line I think we are at our strongest when Silvagni is not rucking and is playing as the 4th tall, using his smarts, being taller and stronger in the air than his opponent and being able to put 100% of his energy into forward play, he's a leading forward who can exploit a smaller defender in the air, unfortunately he has had to play too much as the third tall forward and part time ruck which takes away his strengths as a forward. I think it's important that we really lock down our third tall forward position with someone like TDK. We need the third tall forward to take a big defender and we need them to contribute. If TDK can step up in this role it will have a major influence on the other forwards, you will see other forwards like Silvagni, Martin Owies etc who like to lead and mark do a lot better, it takes the taller players out of the space and away from manning these guys up which frees up their lead/mark game.

Our wings are a tricky one, Acres has one but the other wing is an unknow, especially if we play the three wingmen. O'Brien has to be the front runner but I could easily see us moving a Docherty, Williams or even Walsh to the other wing. Carroll is a strong chance there as well though he seems to be developing as an inside midfielder. Then you have Cuningham and Cottrell who will put a case forward for a spot on the wing.

I think we play a tall but two way running backline. I'm really excited at the idea of McGovern, Weitering, Marchbank and Young all having a good preseason and manning our defence. They may take some time to come on but that's a really strong intercepting defence. It's just made for a pressure around the ball game plan. Having two third talls who can really run is going to give us a huge advantage.

The more I think about our list and what it's capable of the more I can't wait for next season, it's a good enough to be a premiership contender. The top end you have two Colman medallists, Brownlow medallists, Rising star and genuine A grader in Walsh, Weitering who was the best tall defender in the game last year before injury, multiple AA's and the rest are genuine quality a midfield full of players capable of 30+ possession games, elite running defenders and one of the best wingmen in the league. I think this year was a big stuff up, but we can get things right and go into next year very very strong.

Good post

Where do you see Kemp and maybe Philp fitting in?

 

[gbatman]

Good post

Where do you see Kemp and maybe Philp fitting in?

Kemp if he can run well enough, perhaps as onballer who plays forward as well. Or backup to our third tall defenders.

Philp I thought wing or half forward at one point but see how he goes with his fitness.

 

[JuddgementDay]

Very exciting to see our crop of young players - we need a few to step up and take best 22 spots

Boyd, Kemp, Carroll, Durdin, Motlop & Honey

Training - 2023 Training - reports, pics etc

https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/1248617 MONDAY marks the first official day of the 2023 pre-season, with first to fourth-year players returning to training. The first to fourth-year players currently on the Blues' list are: Matt Cottrell, Josh Honey, Brodie Kemp, Sam Philp, Jack Carroll...

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[Mikevk123]

B- Docherty Weitering Saad
HB- Williams Young McGovern
C- Cerra Cripps Acres
HF- C.Durdin Curnow Silvagni
F- Owies McKay Motlop
FOLL- De Koning Hewett Walsh
I/C- Kennedy, Fisher, Marchbank, Martin,
O’Brien
Emerg- Cunningham, Dow, Pittonet, Newman, Kemp, Cottrell, Carroll

 

[TENACIOUS]

Now Draft is finished for us, this would be my current best 22...

FB	Boyd	Weitering	McGovern
HB	Williams	Young	Saad
C	Acres	Cripps	Walsh
FOL	Pittonet	Docherty	Hewett
HF	Fisher	McKay	Durdin
FF	Motlop	De Koning	Curnow
Bench	Kennedy (Fwd/Mid)	Cerra	Marchbank
	Hollands
Emergency	LOB	Martin	Cuningham
	Silvagni

Hollands - Hollands/LOB/Cottrell whoever shows the most in pre season...
Docherty - Trial as a full time midfielder...
Kennedy - Needs to play Forward/Midfield... Docherty takes his spot, IMO Doc a better player...

VFL Team

Geez look at our depth, best it's ever been... Recon this team would beat our Senior team of the mid-late 2000s

FB	Plowman	Durdin
HB	Cowan	Akuei	Newman
C	LOB	Dow	Binns
FOL	Mirkov	Carroll	Cuningham
HF	Cottrell	Silvagni	Martin
FF	Owies	Lemmey	Kemp
Bench	Fogarty	Curnow	Philp

 

[Arr0w]

Very early to nail this down without having a trade or draft period, but we can focus on the players we have on our list to start building a consensus


Boyd Wetering Williams
Marchbank Durdin Saad

TDK Hewett Doc
Cottrell Cripps Walsh

Gov Young C Curnow
Mots Harry Durdin

Int: Newman Kennedy Cerra Martin

Emg: Kemp Carroll Fisher Jsos

Update

Boyd Weitering Gov
Williams Young Saad

TDK Hewett Walsh
Doc Cripps Acres

Charlie Lemmey Martin
Mots Harry Fisher

Int: Newman Kennedy Cerra Durdin

Sub: Cotts

Emg: Hollands Cuners Marchbank Pitto

Stiff: Many

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

Charlie as the 3rd tall, given his agility/movement, makes a lot of sense.

4th tall = JSOS or Martin? Tough one, very different players....

Mots, Durdin and Fisher about right (Owies stiff on exposed form).

 

[bradfisher14]

This is the team I expect to be named for named for Round 1:

B:	15. Docherty	23. Weitering	33. Young
HB:	6. Williams	11. McGovern	42. Saad
C:	13. Acres	5. Cerra	32. Hollands
HF:	21. Martin	10. McKay	18. Walsh
F:	19. C. Durdin	30. Curnow	3. Motlop
R:	27. Pittonet	9. Cripps	29. Hewett
INT:	7. Kennedy	46. Cottrell	24. Newman
	25. Fisher
EMG:	37. Boyd	12. De Koning	4. O'Brien
	22. Marchbank

 

[tarczonandjane]

Update

Boyd Weitering Gov
Williams Young Saad

TDK Hewett Walsh
Doc Cripps Acres

Charlie Lemmey Martin
Mots Harry Fisher

Int: Newman Kennedy Cerra Durdin

Sub: Cotts

Emg: Hollands Cuners Marchbank Pitto

Stiff: Many

Arr0w, you have a far better knowledge of both the game and the draftees than me. And I always admire your optimism.

But I must admit that I have a hard time believing that a guy who was probably taken as about the 6th-10th best tall in the draft (in a draft that wasn’t noted for its key position strength) is going to come in and be in our best 22 as centre half forward next year.

 

[Azzurro]

Update

Boyd Weitering Gov
Williams Young Saad

TDK Hewett Walsh
Doc Cripps Acres

Charlie Lemmey Martin
Mots Harry Fisher

Int: Newman Kennedy Cerra Durdin

Sub: Cotts

Emg: Hollands Cuners Marchbank Pitto

Stiff: Many

Lemmey best 22, going the early crow!?

So many premium talls take years to build into it, if this is how we are shaping up round 1 then look out competition

 

[Arr0w]

Arr0w, you have a far better knowledge of both the game and the draftees than me. And I always admire your optimism.

But I must admit that I have a hard time believing that a guy who was probably taken as about the 6th-10th best tall in the draft (in a draft that wasn’t noted for its key position strength) is going to come in and be in our best 22 as centre half forward next year.

Lacks nothing in ability and talent, and in time, could be the best KPP in this draft

Players don't normally slide due to questioning that talent, moreso other factors and he has had his fair share during this year.

Won't play early, but by the end of the year, could cement himself in the 22

 

[tarczonandjane]

Lacks nothing in ability and talent, and in time, could be the best KPP in this draft

Players don't normally slide due to questioning that talent, moreso other factors and he has had his fair share during this year.

Won't play early, but by the end of the year, could cement himself in the 22

Thanks Arr0w,

And I know you won’t tell me what they are (and the WC recruiter guy people were posting around here also alluded to them), but is there every reason to believe he can put the off field issues behind him?

 

[Red Bull]

Boyd Young McGovern
Docherty Weitering Saad
Walsh Cripps Acres
Martin McKay Durdin
Motlop Curnow Kemp

Pittonet Hewett Cerra

TDK Kennedy Fisher Williams

SUB : Cuningham


Plowman Durdin Newman
Cowan Marchbank Cottrell
Hollands Carroll O’Brien
Honey Silvagni Philp
Owies Lemmey Binns

Mirkov Curnow Dow

Fogarty Akuei

That’s 43 players
Is that our final list now ?

 

[Jeremias]

Is that our final list now ?

Yep

 

[JustaBattler]

Arr0w - I'm liking the look of this Lemmey kid hope he surprises will be big enough to play some ruck time as well.

 

[footyfan1978]

Saad, Zac W, Young, Mini McGov, Doch and Weiters the back six. Boyd and Cunners two wingers. TDK and Pitto the two rucks. Crippa,Walsh and Cerra the prime onballers. Charlie and Harry the two main key forwards. Jack S and Jack M the two medium forwards. Durdin and Motlop the two small forwards. Kennedy ,Hewitt and Marchbank the three others on bench for midfield and backline. Kemp the nominated sub.

 

[JuddgementDay]

Post draft version...

This is pretty hard, my best 22:

Saad Weitering Boyd
McGovern Young Williams
Acres Cerra Docherty
Cuningham Curnow Fisher
Martin McKay Motlop

TDK Cripps Walsh

Hewett Hollands Kemp Marchbank


Contentions were:

• Pitto vs TDK - I'm going with TDK. Young can help with rucking
• Durdin vs Cuningham - I prefer Cunner's dash
• Kemp vs Newman - I just prefer Kemp for his versatility and potential
• Hollands vs JSOS vs Kennedy - Hollands for additional run

The emergencies are these 4 then

Apart from Hollands, our rookies this year can have time to adjust, as we have: Dow, Carroll, Philp and Honey ahead of these rookies

 

[footyfan1978]

Saad, Zac W, Young, Mini McGov, Doch and Weiters the back six. Boyd and Cunners two wingers. TDK and Pitto the two rucks. Crippa,Walsh and Cerra the prime onballers. Charlie and Harry the two main key forwards. Jack S and Jack M the two medium forwards. Durdin and Motlop the two small forwards. Kennedy ,Hewitt and Marchbank the three others on bench for midfield and backline. Kemp the nominated sub.

FFS, I forgot Fisher. He on bench instead of Marchy.

 

[goreds]

Post draft version...

This is pretty hard, my best 22:

Saad Weitering Boyd
McGovern Young Williams
Acres Cerra Docherty
Cuningham Curnow Fisher
Martin McKay Motlop

TDK Cripps Walsh

Hewett Hollands Kemp Marchbank


Contentions were:

• Pitto vs TDK - I'm going with TDK. Young can help with rucking
• Durdin vs Cuningham - I prefer Cunner's dash
• Kemp vs Newman - I just prefer Kemp for his versatility and potential
• Hollands vs JSOS vs Kennedy - Hollands for additional run

The emergencies are these 4 then
Apart from Hollands, our rookies this year can have time to adjust, as we have: Dow, Setters, Carroll, Philp and Honey ahead of these rookies

Not sure about this one??

 

[Cringle]

AFL

FB: Williams - Weitering - McGovern
HB: Docherty - Young - Saad

C: Acres - Cripps (c) - Walsh
OB: Pittonet - Hewett - Cerra

HF: Martin - Curnow - Fisher
FF: Durdin - McKay - Silvagni

Interchange
Newman (D), O'Brien (W), Kennedy (OB) and Kemp (U)
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VFL

FB: Plowman - Durdin - Boyd
HB: Hollands - Marchbank - Cowan

C: Cottrell - Dow - Binns
OB: De Koning - Curnow - Carroll

HF: Honey - Akuei - Cuningham
FF: Motlop - Lemmey - Owies

Interchange
Fogarty, Mirkov and Philp

 

[Red_man2008]

With the new tactical sub coming into place how would we perform with playing one ruck for the first half and then bringing in the other one as the sub at the main break. Could be a handy tactical advantage.

 

[Pablito]

Round 1 team

FB: McGovern, Weitering, Williams
HB: Doc, Young, Saad
C: Acres, Walsh, Cotters
HF: Fisher, C.Curnow, SOS
FF: Durdin, Mckay, Motlop

Foll: Pittonet, Cripps, Hewett

Int: Cerra, TDK, Kennedy, Newman
Sub: Marchbank

Emergency: Martin, Owies , LOB , Plowman

Unlucky to miss: Dow, Kemp, Honey,Cunningham (not sure he'll be right for round 1).

 

[CJMB]

With the new tactical sub coming into place how would we perform with playing one ruck for the first half and then bringing in the other one as the sub at the main break. Could be a handy tactical advantage.

…And a equally a disadvantage if a smaller running player went down so we needed to make the substitution then all of a sudden we’ve got a ruck and four talls up forward

 

[BigBreakfast]

Update

Boyd Weitering Gov
Williams Young Saad

TDK Hewett Walsh
Doc Cripps Acres

Charlie Lemmey Martin
Mots Harry Fisher

Int: Newman Kennedy Cerra Durdin

Sub: Cotts

Emg: Hollands Cuners Marchbank Pitto

Stiff: Many

I find it very hard to believe Lemmey will be best 22, let alone start at CHF. And bumping Jack S at that.

 

[Sharks On A Plane]

Interesting that a lot of people seem to think the drafting of endurance types is some kind of knock on Cottrell.

Reckon he plays almost every week, Voss wants MORE blokes who can tirelessly cover the ground and this guy does it better than almost anybody else in the comp. They will find a role for him. He is growing into his game very well IMO, similar trajectory to Armfield who had a lot of knockers early days but ended up carving out a very serviceable career.