Live Event 2023 Brownlow medal live chat
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And just as incompetent at everything on their plate. Yet somehow, AFLW umpires are even worse.
Contrived outcomes across the board from AFL HQ.
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I presume (or hope) you are joking.
Seems like a reasonable bloke ... he's probably a tad embarrassed.
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They don’t, or the forwards. Cripps getting more votes than Curnow is a disgrace.
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What an absolute robbery
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While they are at it they should take the umpiring off the umpires too. Just get them to bounce the ball and wave flags.
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I am unreasonably upset over an award given by umpires.
Snarls Barkley
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29 votes would be enough to win in all but about 15 seasons
33 votes would be enough to win in all but three seasons
33 votes would be enough to win in all but three seasons
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Zeno Tzatzaris got 3 votes in 1989 for a game we lost at the Cattery by 50 points. His 14 possessions were run of the mill - but he helped keep one G.Ablett senior to zero goals.
With hardly any exceptions all of those players play footy right under the noses of the umpires. It's ludicrous that being an in and under player wins you a Brownlow. In the last decade or so we've had Priddis, T.Mitchell, Wines, Cripps and Neale win Brownlows - and look at how well Viney polled when he had nowhere near the season Petracca had. Neale gets it 20 times and advances it 150m for 3 votes when Cameron kicks seven. Seven!! I mean ffs, what the hell is happening.
The hope is that this continues to the point that the public and the footy industry at large stop putting any value in it, because it's completely flawed. It is also just baffling that the umpires can see the game like this when they are so far away from the general consensus. Maybe if they released the votes after each round they'd get some harsh feedback and sort their shit out.
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The entire umpire department needs to be rebuilt from the ground up, especially moving forward with more games from Tassie coming in and likely a 20th team sometime in the 2030s, along with more AFLW games and the likelihood of both competitions running concurrently in the future.
There needs to be a central group of umpires that any of the senior competitions can draw from. I also believe the AFL should release a weekly rundown of each game with correct and incorrect umpiring decisions.
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Yet we were all resigned to it as we saw the AFL stage manage the order of votes in the last round and we mouthed L Neale before Gil.
It really is a deeply flawed system in a deeply flawed, and at times amateurish, competition.
Not sure what you need to do to get a few of those surprise, unexpected votes that get you over the top, but we sure ain’t doing it.
Never been more ****ing filthy I just hope Bont gets to win a Brownlow before it’s all said and done
Use Artificial Intelligence to officiate the game..... although some might say that any intelligence umpires have is artificial anyway.
This. I'm so grateful that he is our captain, our superstar, instead of being envious of other teams.
Absolutely they know in advance.
You think Brisbane being last game read was a coincidence?
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By the last round or two, you can tell who is in the hunt. Even if Neale wasn't likely to vote he'd have been read last in that situation.
The post I was referring to was why Dogs games were being read later in about R14 or R15.
sickening how in both of bonts brownlow worthy seasons, his teammates have played like a bunch of peanuts for about a 6 week patch, thus costing us wins and bont votes.
sickens me to no end.
yeah yeah beveridge can cop his fair share of the blame for that too.
sickens me to no end.
yeah yeah beveridge can cop his fair share of the blame for that too.
Yeah I'd far rather have a Brownlowless Bont playing for my side than any of Wines, Neale, Mitchell or Cripps. Or anyone else in the comp for that matter. The Brownlow doesn't define how ridiculously good he is.
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Bont was robbed. You don't have to be dead to be stiff.
Gil even said before he read the last round of votes something like "it's a good one, I promise".
They read them in order of excitement, that's fine. If they didn't screw up the actual voting I wouldn't care if they asked a circus performer to pull the voting cards from an orifice, as long as the winner was actually one of the best few players in the comp that year.
Wines, Cripps, Neale. A murderer's row of inside players who are admittedly good at what they do, but have way less of a bearing on the outcome of a game than the attacking mids who do it all. It's pathetic.
