List Mgmt. 2023 Draft & Trade Hypotheticals

[Ticky009]

Key Dates:

Trade Period, October 6–18

• Restricted & Unrestricted Free Agency Period: Friday, October 6, 9am – Friday October 13, 5pm (bid matching ends Monday October 16, 5pm)
• Trade Period (1), picks & players: Monday, October 9, 9am – Wednesday October 18, 7.30pm

Quiet Period, October 19–November 20

• Trade Period (2), picks only: Monday, October 23, 9am – Friday November 10, 5pm
• List Lodgement 1*: Tuesday, October 31, 2pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (1): Wednesday, November 1, 9am – Wednesday November 8, 5pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (2): Friday, November 10, 9am–5pm
• List Lodgement 2*: Tuesday, November 14, 2pm

Draft Period, November 20–22

• Round 1 of the National Draft: Monday, November 20, time and venue TBA
• Trade Period (3), picks only: Tuesday, November 21, 5.45pm–6.30pm
• Round 2–end of the National Draft: Tuesday, November 21, 7pm until completion
• Rookie Promotions: Tuesday, November 21, after the National Draft
• Delisted Free Agency Period (3): Tuesday, November 21, after the National Draft
• List Lodgement 3*: Wednesday, November 22, 10am (optional; required for those participating in the PSD)
• Pre-Season Draft: Wednesday, November 22, 3pm
• Rookie Draft: Wednesday, November 22, 3.20pm
• Final List Lodgement*: Thursday, November 23, 4pm

* List lodgement dates are yet to be made public, so are approximate based on past history and the requirements of the AFL Rules. When lists are lodged, the number of players on the list must not exceed maximum list sizes. At the same time, clubs must provide the AFL with estimates of total player payments in the current and following year, which must prove the club is not and will not exceed the salary cap. (AFL Rules 5.3, 6.1, 6.8, 7.2, 7.9)

 

[bedford]

Get Oliver in by any means necessary IMO.

Get your posts up , i backed you for the silver

 

[bedford]

He asked Oliver in an interview “why are you so fat”

Did he

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Get Oliver in by any means necessary IMO.

Absolutely i hope the club is exploring all options very very few opportunities like this present themselves.

 

[FreeAgent1]

He's already won

2x AFL coaches award for best player
4 x b and f
3 x AA
1 X flag

So even if he never plays a single game I think he's already got beatson back with plenty of interest.
Not sure about any goose.

Zero chance he chooses us. Doesn’t like the club due to Beaston. Family also not fans…

 

[Superstar swan]

Lol people are putting too much thought into the beatson vs oliver chat. Clubs (particularly back then) love to get stuck into draftees to test how they react.

Fun fact, in a pre draft interview a club once insinuated Grundy was feminine and soft becuase he had long hair... Grundy replied something along the lines of " bit rich calling me soft when you work at the demons"

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Zero chance he chooses us. Doesn’t like the club due to Beaston. Family also not fans…

Goddamn it if Beatson costs us this chance.

Pitchforks etc.

 

[RUNVS]

Get Oliver in by any means necessary IMO.

I am not sure kidnapping is a good idea personally.

 

[bedford]

Zero chance he chooses us. Doesn’t like the club due to Beaston. Family also not fans…

Source about the family

 

[TheMase]

Lol people are putting too much thought into the beatson vs oliver chat. Clubs (particularly back then) love to get stuck into draftees to test how they react.

Fun fact, in a pre draft interview a club once insinuated Grundy was feminine and soft becuase he had long hair... Grundy replied something along the lines of " bit rich calling me soft when you work at the demons"

In the video I put up before, one of them said the Gold Coast asked players to read the form guide and call the last 400m of a race or tell a joke and said players were literally studying the form guide in the waiting room

 

[Adnico26Parker]

This one. from around 16min mark.

A bit earlier around 14:30 when he said he faked a hammy so he didn’t have to do most of the running tests.

Yeah, someone we’d really want at our club…

Oliver's 'attitude' questioned as rivals consider trade heist

'Raised eyebrows at time'

wwos.nine.com.au

 

[RUNVS]

In the video I put up before, one of them said the Gold Coast asked players to read the form guide and call the last 400m of a race or tell a joke and said players were literally studying the form guide in the waiting room

I don't really see what those sort of questions tell you about a player to be honest. I think these left of field questions designed to make someone nervous or uncomfortable were a bit of a fad, not only in the AFL but in normal job interviews too.

 

[Rhino5]

Wait, the consensus here seems to be that Logan is untouchable and you wouldn’t put him on the table if Oliver was available?

That is absolutely crazy and I hope our list management doesn’t share that view. The fact is, if Oliver was available, it would take a lot to get him and we aren’t just talking picks and Tom Papley

11

Tom Papley

Age

28

Ht

177cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

9.1

4star

HB

5.0

4star

M

3.7

4star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.5

5star

D

12.3

3star

K

8.9

4star

HB

3.4

2star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.5

2star

G

2.4

5star

D

13.4

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

3.4

5star

G

1.6

5star

(who wasn’t even good this year).

Another poster said they wouldn’t trade Logan for the #1 pick this year? Seriously?

Logan is a nice talent on a good development track but he’s not Buddy Franklin 2.0 and it’s far from certain he’s going to be anything in the league. I just don’t get the overrating of our young players. If they were that great, we’d be better than we are.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Wait, the consensus here seems to be that Logan is untouchable and you wouldn’t put him on the table if Oliver was available?

That is absolutely crazy and I hope our list management doesn’t share that view. The fact is, if Oliver was available, it would take a lot to get him and we aren’t just talking picks and Tom Papley (who wasn’t even good this year).

Another poster said they wouldn’t trade Logan for the #1 pick this year? Seriously?

Logan is a nice talent on a good development track but he’s not Buddy Franklin 2.0 and it’s far from certain he’s going to be anything in the league. I just don’t get the overrating of our young players. If they were that great, we’d be better than we are.

Then bemoan in gameday threads why we cant win a clearance lol.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Wait, the consensus here seems to be that Logan is untouchable and you wouldn’t put him on the table if Oliver was available?

That is absolutely crazy and I hope our list management doesn’t share that view. The fact is, if Oliver was available, it would take a lot to get him and we aren’t just talking picks and Tom Papley (who wasn’t even good this year).

Another poster said they wouldn’t trade Logan for the #1 pick this year? Seriously?

Logan is a nice talent on a good development track but he’s not Buddy Franklin 2.0 and it’s far from certain he’s going to be anything in the league. I just don’t get the overrating of our young players. If they were that great, we’d be better than we are.

100% Logan would be in the top 3-4 of absolute under no circumstances to be traded. I’d be putting Amartey up before Logan and we all rate Joel. Reid will be a star all things being considered. Logan is tracking the same way. Wouldn’t trade for anything.

 

[TheMase]

I don't really see what those sort of questions tell you about a player to be honest. I think these left of field questions designed to make someone nervous or uncomfortable were a bit of a fad, not only in the AFL but in normal job interviews too.

For Beatson, players need to be able to handle criticism, however brutal it might be. Mental toughness. Also see how they respond to the criticism. The fact he interviewed him suggested that he probably recognised his talent and wanted to push him to get more out of himself.

At the Swans, and I’m sure other clubs, the players are expected to be brutally honest with each other as well as the coaches. Everyone is accountable.

I remember reading a piece, it might have been B Jack, who said an outsider looking in would almost see some interactions as bullying, but that’s the high performance environment.

 

[the hypnotoad]

Wait, the consensus here seems to be that Logan is untouchable and you wouldn’t put him on the table if Oliver was available?

That is absolutely crazy and I hope our list management doesn’t share that view. The fact is, if Oliver was available, it would take a lot to get him and we aren’t just talking picks and Tom Papley (who wasn’t even good this year).

Another poster said they wouldn’t trade Logan for the #1 pick this year? Seriously?

Logan is a nice talent on a good development track but he’s not Buddy Franklin 2.0 and it’s far from certain he’s going to be anything in the league. I just don’t get the overrating of our young players. If they were that great, we’d be better than we are.

that's a simplistic, short-sighted and ignorant comment
you expect young players to be match-winning stars from the off?
how many big forwards were superstars in their first season? two seasons?
as others have posted earlier, i definitely would not offer any of mcdonald, warner, gulden, blakey, mccartin and probably mclean ... if that means we don't get oliver, ok, i'll live with it ...
whatever oliver has been at his best, it's fair to say there's question marks on him right now, for whatever reasons
but be that as it may, i'd feel worse seeing mcdonald or any of those others starring in another team's colours in the future
they're ours and we'd be foolish to shop them around ... for oliver or the no1 pick in this draft

 

[TheMase]

Yeah, someone we’d really want at our club…

Oliver's 'attitude' questioned as rivals consider trade heist

'Raised eyebrows at time'

wwos.nine.com.au

Getting cheaper if Melbourne are pushing him out?

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

His Attitude has got to do with the way Melbourne handled his hamstring and knee surgery.

 

[rustycrate]

This one. from around 16min mark.

A bit earlier around 14:30 when he said he faked a hammy so he didn’t have to do most of the running tests.

Not mentally tough enough. Not fit enough. Reeks of lazy. Not sure what he is like now after multiple preseasons etc. Maybe his long contract has made him complacent. 7 years left. Melbourne maybe want to get off that.

 

[RUNVS]

Anyone want George Hewett

29

George Hewett

Age

29

Ht

187cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.7

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

10.3

5star

M

2.7

3star

T

4.1

5star

CL

3.3

5star

D

13.8

3star

K

4.8

2star

HB

9.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

2.8

4star

D

11.2

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

0.4

3star

back?

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Anyone want George Hewett back?

No why

 

[RUNVS]

No why

On the trade board a Carlton fan said that there are rumours they are looking to trade George.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

On the trade board a Carlton fan said that there are rumours they are looking to trade George.

Damn he has been badly treated.

 

[bedford]

Lol people are putting too much thought into the beatson vs oliver chat. Clubs (particularly back then) love to get stuck into draftees to test how they react.

Fun fact, in a pre draft interview a club once insinuated Grundy was feminine and soft becuase he had long hair... Grundy replied something along the lines of " bit rich calling me soft when you work at the demons"

Please don't make sense on this thread

 

[RUNVS]

Damn he has been badly treated.

Agreed and I don't understand it. He is a solid player at worst. I would happily have him back at the Swans and think he would make our team better.