List Mgmt. 2023 List Management and Trading (Part 2)

[PeterSalt]

Do you have a link to the article? I can't find anything on Google or the AFL website. Not doubting you, just trying to find the article you referenced.

From the article below:

"For instance, it would have allowed Adelaide to list one of Rory Sloane or Taylor Walker as a veteran for 2024 and opened up another spot on their primary list. The idea was designed to keep veterans in the game without sacrificing a list spot that a youngster may have taken, with the veteran’s full payments still counted in the salary cap."

Roos target pick one, Dee to go on, big Dog to stay

Check out all the latest trade news from around the League

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There's a link in the post above

 

[Scorpus]

I'm just glad you're not in charge of HR - at the AFC, or anywhere else for that matter.

I wonder what Carlton told Lochie O'Brien when they delisted him with a year left on his contract

 

[dogs105]

I wonder what Carlton told Lochie O'Brien when they delisted him with a year left on his contract

Get good.

 

[rabidcrow]

If we somehow just throw out a first rounder due to a lack of list spots, Reid should be sacked immediately. Can he trade it for a future pick or are we going to delist another player?

Clearly we won’t throw it away. We will either package and move up or trade into next year

In fairness Reid has a pretty good track record in that space (trading into future)


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[Crow till I die]

I wonder what Carlton told Lochie O'Brien when they delisted him with a year left on his contract

Here is $400k upfront?

 

[PeterSalt]

Didn't really know where to put this .. thought a few more folk would see it here though

Nothing startling

Reflections: The moment encapsulating Keane’s Crows debut

The defender made his Club debut against Port Adelaide in Round 20

www.afc.com.au

 

[CryptoCrow]

I prefer Cook to Hamill but I think Nicks would take the opposite view. We've seen Nicks is happy to overlook poor skills if a player is hard at the footy but he won't select a player with good skills if he thinks he's soft.

And we should respect Nicks for that approach, we need to be a hard and hated team

 

[JennyTalia]

Didn't really know where to put this .. thought a few more folk would see it here though

Nothing startling

Reflections: The moment encapsulating Keane’s Crows debut

The defender made his Club debut against Port Adelaide in Round 20

www.afc.com.au

Encouraging to hear how he felt a long way off it when first moving back but still managed to progress as much as he did.

I was very impressed with him in the internal trial even back then... and he had some excellent moments in the AFL.

Good to hear his partner is moving over.

 

[Ciao Giacomo]

Encouraging to hear how he felt a long way off it when first moving back but still managed to progress as much as he did.

I was very impressed with him in the internal trial even back then... and he had some excellent moments in the AFL.

Good to hear his partner is moving over.

Keane - “I had lost all my AFL skills in my 18 month break and I was surprised to play an AFL game this year”.

Bigfooty Selection Thread - “ Butts is f**kin shit, bring in Keane, he’s looked good in the first two SANFL games”.

I liked the look of the Irishmen from word go and I was/am confident he will become a first choice player.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Keane - “I had lost all my AFL skills in my 18 month break and I was surprised to play an AFL game this year”.

Bigfooty Selection Thread - “ Butts is f**kin s**t, bring in Keane, he’s looked good in the first two SANFL games”.

I liked the look of the Irishmen from word go and I was/am confident he will become a first choice player.

Okey dokey... this is a bizarre post!

Yeah, I'm sure most of this board were calling for Keane to play after 2 games... not!

 

[Big Dub]

I think the service that he's given to the club, well over a decade, including as our Captain, makes it unlikely. Forcing him down this path would be seen as disrespectful, for a player with his history.

I can see the logic in your argument - but this is one case where I think the emotional side will win out over the logical side. Logically, it probably should be Sloane, but I doubt that he will be the player forced out.

I still think it's more likely to be one of the 4 younger players you named. Given Cook's reputation for softness and lack of performance when selected at AFL level, I think it's most likely to be him.

Or his service to the club might be why he got an extension at all, but only on the proviso that he was willing to go to the rookie list. Obviously the club would let him set the narrative of why it's being done.

The talk around Tex at the time of extension was "really important player", while for Sloane it was "plays a role".

Time will tell, but I'm 50:50 on each option (or 40:40:20 with the last 20% being "we thought he'd got a veteran spot").

 

[1970crow]

Or his service to the club might be why he got an extension at all, but only on the proviso that he was willing to go to the rookie list. Obviously the club would let him set the narrative of why it's being done.

The talk around Tex at the time of extension was "really important player", while for Sloane it was "plays a role".

Time will tell, but I'm 50:50 on each option (or 40:40:20 with the last 20% being "we thought he'd got a veteran spot").

the veteran spot option was always a lie seeing as Tex will have qualified, so Rory was always taking a main list spot.

 

[Big Dub]

So there are apparently 4 list lodgement dates. One at the end of October, one mid November, one between the rookie draft and the preseason draft and then the final one in late November.

It also looks like we don't have to upgrade Murray to the senior list until after the national draft.

So, does this mean that we don't need to delist a player until after the national draft, and only if we don’t trade out one of our 3 live picks? Or is this a bit cheeky?

 

[Big Dub]

the veteran spot option was always a lie seeing as Tex will have qualified, so Rory was always taking a main list spot.

. . . or a rookie spot (back to 50:50).

 

[Vader]

Or his service to the club might be why he got an extension at all, but only on the proviso that he was willing to go to the rookie list. Obviously the club would let him set the narrative of why it's being done.

The talk around Tex at the time of extension was "really important player", while for Sloane it was "plays a role".

Time will tell, but I'm 50:50 on each option (or 40:40:20 with the last 20% being "we thought he'd got a veteran spot").

I think there's likely to be a proviso about him spending most of the year in the SANFL, coaching our younger players - as did Scott Thompson before him. I think it's unlikely to be extended as far as doing so from the rookie list.

 

[Vader]

So there are apparently 4 list lodgement dates. One at the end of October, one mid November, one between the rookie draft and the preseason draft and then the final one in late November.

It also looks like we don't have to upgrade Murray to the senior list until after the national draft.

So, does this mean that we don't need to delist a player until after the national draft, and only if we don’t trade out one of our 3 live picks? Or is this a bit cheeky?

We still need to create a vacancy for him to fill, as he has already maxed out his time on the rookie list.

Given the announcement, it would appear that they upgraded him in the end-of-October lodgement.

 

[Mostyn]

Keane - “I had lost all my AFL skills in my 18 month break and I was surprised to play an AFL game this year”.

Bigfooty Selection Thread - “ Butts is f**kin s**t, bring in Keane, he’s looked good in the first two SANFL games”.

I liked the look of the Irishmen from word go and I was/am confident he will become a first choice player.

I thought he was really mediocre in the SANFL, but I'm glad the club backed him in with an opportunity at the higher level.

 

[Mostyn]

It’s what he does, exaggerates and makes s**t up to belittle the board and in turn to boost his own ego because he’s above such silly opinions. It’s his thing.

A lot of dumb stuff is said on this board at times, but I don't remember anyone calling for Keane after two games?

That being said, some strange stuff gets said at times.

 

[Mostyn]

Or his service to the club might be why he got an extension at all, but only on the proviso that he was willing to go to the rookie list. Obviously the club would let him set the narrative of why it's being done.

The talk around Tex at the time of extension was "really important player", while for Sloane it was "plays a role".

Time will tell, but I'm 50:50 on each option (or 40:40:20 with the last 20% being "we thought he'd got a veteran spot").

I am 95:5.

 

[Mostyn]

the veteran spot option was always a lie seeing as Tex will have qualified, so Rory was always taking a main list spot.

Why do you say a lie?

Who are you saying is a liar?

 

[BACCS]

Rankine more midfield time?

 

[dogs105]

And if it did it would have been 1-2 posters which he’s used to belittle the board and boost his all guru opinions. He does it all the time but I’m one of the rare few who calls him out on it.

You guys don’t have issues with calling out my posting but he skates through.

I went back to the changes for round 3 thread. In the first 5 pages there were 8 posts for Keane to come in, including one by me.

There were also 3 posts from Scorpus calling for Murphy to be dropped

 

[MRB37]

Rankine more midfield time?

The question isn't "can he..." the question will be "Will they give him the opportunity to..."

 

[BACCS]

The question isn't "can he..." the question will be "Will they give him the opportunity to..."

Oh right, I can’t read the article so just went off the headline. We did use him a few times in centre bounces last season, I can imagine that only increases with time. I still want him to be a 80:20 forward/mid as he’s too damn good in the F50, but one or two CBs a quarter could happen if the game requires it.

 

[Mostyn]

I went back to the changes for round 3 thread. In the first 5 pages there were 8 posts for Keane to come in, including one by me.

There were also 3 posts from Scorpus calling for Murphy to be dropped

You're the one!!

 

[MRB37]

Oh right, I can’t read the article so just went off the headline. We did use him a few times in centre bounces last season, I can imagine that only increases with time. I still want him to be a 80:20 forward/mid as he’s too damn good in the F50, but one or two CBs a quarter could happen if the game requires it.

The article is just Ralph playing list manager for the most part, though has in there we're talking with Essendon and Geelong about moving up to their picks and been linked to Darcy Wilson, Ollie Murphy and Arie Schoenmaker. I'm guessing they'd see someone like Schoenmaker as a Brodie Smith replacement.