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All these shiny first round picks will have us with a team of what, 15-18 of them and we'll still be shite!

Only then we will learn it is not the picks, but our development that is for the tip!

( I actually think it's a bit of both)

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This kid just has it. Long limbs in that Isaac Smith style, good vision and evansiveness. Will be a perfect modern day wingman at the top level.

Wouldn't be at all surprised if he gets a call up to Vic Country.

Got abit of Jack McCrae about him.
 
That will be two first round picks in 3 of 4 drafts - 2020, 2022 and 2023. (But no first rounder from 2021. Altho with any luck Goater will make up for that.)

Impressive. If we go 2024 and 2005 that will be close to half a team of first rounders

With Turner running around in 2028 we are Flag bound

How depress
 
Do we go another midfielder or the best kpf as our first pick. We are crying out for a Superstar key forward. Who is the best key forward coming up?

If we end up with a top 3 pick you just have to take best available. At this stage that isn’t likely to be a key forward. But there should be some talls available at Port’s pick and later on in the draft.

We could also look to shore up our draft hand and trade down if we have someone like Archer Reid in mind.
 
If we end up with a top 3 pick you just have to take best available. At this stage that isn’t likely to be a key forward. But there should be some talls available at Port’s pick and later on in the draft.

We could also look to shore up our draft hand and trade down if we have someone like Archer Reid in mind.
The other thing ,the best key forwards generally speaking ,don’t go top 5 .
 
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Impressive. If we go 2024 and 2005 that will be close to half a team of first rounders

With Turner running around in 2028 we are Flag bound

How depress
There was a point under Brad Scott where we had 15 first rounders or more, many of them top ten (or top five) picks. (Those top five picks included Dom Tyson and Jared Polec btw.)

If Turner is playing in 2028 that will be 14 years he's played for. That would be hilarious actually.
 
There was a point under Brad Scott where we had 15 first rounders or more, many of them top ten (or top five) picks. (Those top five picks included Dom Tyson and Jared Polec btw.)

If Turner is playing in 2028 that will be 14 years he's played for. That would be hilarious actually.
If he plays another game it’d be hilarious sad for anyone watching
 

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If we end up with a top 3 pick you just have to take best available. At this stage that isn’t likely to be a key forward. But there should be some talls available at Port’s pick and later on in the draft.

We could also look to shore up our draft hand and trade down if we have someone like Archer Reid in mind.
Shrewd drafting like last year. Pick key players that you aim towards. Pragmatically and (and in some instances) honestly trade with teams who can accommodate the recruitment of those players. The top 10 looks to be littered with mids and utilities and a few KPPs thrown in at this early stage. West Coast and North I think drafted smartly because they gamed the draft to get what they wanted, despite what it looked like from the out outside.

We have to do the same. Get the shopping list of what our gaps are. Realise in demand youth that other teams might want more than us, strike a fair trade that sees our interests realised.

RF08, you have probably answered this already, but would you try to work the draft for extra picks or go with (what looks to be) a top 3 pick + Port (10+ at this stage)?
 
Shrewd drafting like last year. Pick key players that you aim towards. Pragmatically and (and in some instances) honestly trade with teams who can accommodate the recruitment of those players. The top 10 looks to be littered with mids and utilities and a few KPPs thrown in at this early stage. West Coast and North I think drafted smartly because they gamed the draft to get what they wanted, despite what it looked like from the out outside.

We have to do the same. Get the shopping list of what our gaps are. Realise in demand youth that other teams might want more than us, strike a fair trade that sees our interests realised.

RF08, you have probably answered this already, but would you try to work the draft for extra picks or go with (what looks to be) a top 3 pick + Port (10+ at this stage)?

Agree with all of that. We need to think outside the box to maximise our position.

If we end up with a top 2 pick I think it would be a lot of sense to split it and increase our draft hand. We have so many holes all across our list and we simply need more bites at the cherry.
 
Surely if the worst happens and we end up with pick 1 we’re getting a high priority pick.
I don't want to spend too much time think about us coming last again but any club that finishes last three years in row after finishing equal last the year before that - well that's historically the worst team in many decades and it would be entirely appropriate to give that team first and second pick without a doubt.
 
There was a point under Brad Scott where we had 15 first rounders or more, many of them top ten (or top five) picks. (Those top five picks included Dom Tyson and Jared Polec btw.)

If Turner is playing in 2028 that will be 14 years he's played for. That would be hilarious actually.
Could quite possibly be the 7th Roo to play 300
 
The other thing the best key forwards generally speaking don’t go top 5 .
This is very true for the most part. Here is a list of key forwards who went top 5 in their draft year this century. The bolded ones are the exceptions who managed to become outstanding key forwards.

2000 - Riewoldt and Koschitzke
2001 - Graham Polak
2002 - Tim Walsh
2003 - (no kpf in top 5)
2004 - Roughead and Franklin
2005 - Josh Kennedy

2006 - Scott Gumbleton and Lachie Hansen
2007 - Jarrad Grant
2008 - Jack Watts
2009 - (no kpf in top 5)
2010 - Sam Day
2011 - Jon Patton
2012 - (no kpf in top 5)
2013 - Tom Boyd*
2014 - Paddy McCartin*
2015 - Josh Schache
2016 - (no kpf in top 5)
2017 - (no kpf in top 5)

I've stopped there because 2018 has Max King and 2019 has Luke Jackson who are on a trajectory but too soon to say if they are exceptional.

* it's fair to say that Tom Boyd may have become an exceptional key forward and Paddy McCartin as well if unforeseen circumstances hadn't intervened.
 
I don't want to spend too much time think about us coming last again but any club that finishes last three years in row after finishing equal last the year before that - well that's historically the worst team in many decades and it would be entirely appropriate to give that team first and second pick without a doubt.

Has to be and the footy media with try to quash it, but it has to be.
 
Do we go another midfielder or the best kpf as our first pick. We are crying out for a Superstar key forward. Who is the best key forward coming up?
If we have 1 it will most likely be Reid. I really like the other Reid 200 plus cm forward. Curtain is the other who can play both key back and forward.
 
Far out that would be tempting.

Pick 2: Nick Watson
Pick 3: Daniel Curtain
Pick 10: Archer Reid or Nate Caddy
Pick 21: Joel Friejah/Riley Hardeman

Sorts our small forward, KD Depth, KF Depth and wing depth in one draft.

With the addition of another first rounder in 2024.

I reckon I’d pull the trigger on that as it stands.
Agree. H Reid looks amazing but he is big and bullying kids smaller than him.

Get them all coming through together. Hawks out of the teams that are in the spoon race would want Reid the most.
 
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