Preview 2023 Rd 11 Carlton vs Sydney Friday May 26 7:50PM @ SCG

[Aphrodite]

Team is in:-


IN: Tom De Koning

12

Tom De Koning

Age

25

Ht

201cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

5.0

4star

CL

0.5

2star

HO

1.5

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

5.0

4star

CL

0.5

3star

HO

1.5

5star

, Brodie Kemp
OUT: Ed Curnow, Jack Silvagni

1

Jack Silvagni

Age

27

Ht

194cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.0

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

5.3

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

1.3

1star

M

1.7

2star

T

0.7

1star

G

0.7

4star

D

9.2

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.8

4star

, Lewis Young

33

Lewis Young

Age

26

Ht

202cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.6

3star

K

7.5

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

197.9

3star

D

4.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

1.0

1star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

MG

26.0

1star

D

14.4

4star

K

8.2

4star

HB

6.2

4star

M

6.4

5star

T

2.0

4star

MG

181.6

3star

After starting last weekend as sub, George Hewett

29

George Hewett

Age

29

Ht

187cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.7

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

10.3

5star

M

2.7

3star

T

4.1

5star

CL

3.3

5star

D

13.8

3star

K

4.8

2star

HB

9.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

2.8

4star

D

11.2

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

0.4

3star

has been elevated to the starting 22.

AFL team selection: Blues bring back tall timber

Carlton's Round 11 team has landed.

www.carltonfc.com.au

Backs:	Sam Docherty	Jacob Weitering	Nic Newman
Half-backs:	Brodie Kemp	Mitch McGovern	Adam Saad
Centreline:	Blake Acres	Patrick Cripps	Oliver Hollands
Half-forwards:	Matthew Kennedy	Harry McKay	Tom De Koning
Forwards:	Corey Durdin	Charlie Curnow	Jesse Motlop
Followers:	Marc Pittonet	George Hewett	Sam Walsh
Interchange:	Jordan Boyd	Adam Cerra	Matthew Cottrell
	Matthew Owies
Emergencies:	Ed Curnow	Lachie Fogarty	Jack Silvagni
	Lewis Young

 

[Blue1980]

Like Kemp and TDK in

Hate that Dow didn't get a game. Poor bugger should ask for a mid season trade.

Hate hate hate that Voss gave McGovern a hall pass. Apparently squibing contests is something that is now accepted in the team.

Outs don't faze me.

Hate seeing Jones kill it at the dogs. We stuffed up big time not putting him on the inactive list. Weiters misses him so much. Said it before but we would have played finals last year if we had jones ... but that's for another thread

It was either young or gov, so surely gov is on notice

 

[HereComesJuddy]

Dow not even an emergency anymore... Its over for him at Carlton.

Hope he smashes it at his new home next year.

I wonder if JSOS will look around also

Surely... surely the players aren't happy. Dow is well liked and the MC continue to balls up and not reward. They let Cripps run at a snails pace and have his opponents run past him weekly in front of their eyes and they play favourites with selection without keeping an eye on our future.

 

[Blue Reaper]

As I posted earlier, I’m happy with the ins.

But ‘Kennedy forward & Dow midfield’ offers more to the team than ‘Durdin (or Motlop) forward and Kennedy midfield’, at the moment.

 

[Stig O'Hara]

Good.

Like the ins, the outs are about right.

 

[Red Bull]

What the match committee are doing to Dow is just wrong …
Really really wrong !!!
There’s a stench surrounding this and all involved should be ashamed of themselves.
So much for a fair and even go at Carlton …

 

[Blue1980]

intriguing watching the first embryonic planning stages of a smug "I told you so"...you're less interested in dow doing well than carlton looking bad.....nice work

I predict some Dow fans to go and support the club he ends up at, kinda like casual fans who support the club of wherever their favourite NBA star is.

 

[Arr0w]

Surely... surely the players aren't happy. Dow is well liked and the MC continue to balls up and not reward. They let Cripps run at a snails pace and have his opponents run past him weekly in front of their eyes and they play favourites with selection without keeping an eye on our future.

When has Dow ever run past and or kept up with his VFL opponent?

What the match committee are doing to Dow is just wrong …
Really really wrong !!!
There’s a stench surrounding this and all involved should be ashamed of themselves.
So much for a fair and even go at Carlton …

The unholy alliance must be back

 

[Ald Gardiner]

This 5 day thingy, let’s not stray into cop out country. Swans 6 days and also coming back from interstate game.

Pies beat Crows in Adelaide off a 5 day break, coming from 3 goals behind last qtr.

Enough of the excuses

 

[TheReal99prelim]

So half hearted efforts and mediocrity continue to be tolerated. Same old.

Dow's workplace bullying claim continues to grow legs.

No way do they get tolerated!!!!
I give you Exhibit A...Paddy Dow...bloody keep him in the VFL and throw away the keys

 

[Blue1980]

*** Trigger warning***Dow’s another Nick Graham. Great VFL player average at the top level. He’s had plenty of chances over the years and is behind Cripps, Kennedy & George. Who out of those 3 does he start over? None. What’s the point of making him an emergency if you’re not going to play him? Everyone carrying on needs to chill. He’s done that’s it. Getting 41 touches in the 2s doesn’t make him the next Gary Ablett Jnr. He’s limited at AFL level.
Edit * trust me I’d love him to be given the chance to prove me wrong but I can’t see it

He might get a chance, and if/when he does hope he goes well.

Thing he’s doing differently this year in the vfl is his numbers seem to have gone up from last year, he was rarely getting over 30 last year or years previous.

That was the issue with him in the AFL, he had his best half of footy at AFL level v Freo at the mcg in 2021, but faded after half time. I don’t think he’s ever got 25 touches at afl level, or if he has it’s like only once.

The higher numbers in the vfl do bode well.

 

[HereComesJuddy]

When has Dow ever run past and or kept up with his VFL opponent?

Probably the same amount of times as our overpaid captain I would think

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

What the match committee are doing to Dow is just wrong …
Really really wrong !!!
There’s a stench surrounding this and all involved should be ashamed of themselves.
So much for a fair and even go at Carlton …

Lets all settle down and enjoy another big win against Sydney.
Then resume this conversation next Thursday night.

 

[katmanblue]

Yeah, it has to be that the coach dislikes him

I wonder if it's something off-field.

Theory with zero evidence: what if he's at Lachie Hunter levels of shit bloke? Doing the stuff that embarrasses the club, but it just hasn't come out.

I seriously doubt it, but...

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[JoeyPBLUES]

He might get a chance, and if/when he does hope he goes well.

Thing he’s doing differently this year in the vfl is his numbers seem to have gone up from last year, he was rarely getting over 30 last year or years previous.

That was the issue with him in the AFL, he had his best half of footy at AFL level v Freo at the mcg in 2021, but faded after half time. I don’t think he’s ever got 25 touches at afl level, or if he has it’s like only once.

The higher numbers in the vfl do bode well.

Mate like I said I’d love to see him come in and murder it in the ones but given his limitations at the level and the fact his contracts up this year and he’s a 1 position player I don’t think he’s gonna get there with us.

 

[Arr0w]

Probably the same amount of times as our overpaid captain I would think

Don't think money should be in the conversation

 

[Arr0w]

I wonder if it's something off-field.

Theory with zero evidence: what if he's at Lachie Hunter levels of s**t bloke? Doing the stuff that embarrasses the club, but it just hasn't come out.

I seriously doubt it, but...

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Nah, Dow is a cleanskin

 

[HereComesJuddy]

I predict some Dow fans to go and support the club he ends up at, kinda like casual fans who support the club of wherever their favourite NBA star is.

Why would a Carlton supporter change clubs if Dow is playing at another club next year? Crazy

 

[katmanblue]

No one will look like muppets, anything can change

If you saw the size of my nose,you'd beg to differ.

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[Arr0w]

If you saw the size of my nose,you'd beg to differ.

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Or mine

 

[HereComesJuddy]

Don't think money should be in the conversation

And that's ok and your take

 

[Blue1980]

Mate like I said I’d love to see him come in and murder it in the ones but given his limitations at the level and the fact his contracts up this year and he’s a 1 position player I don’t think he’s gonna get there with us.

I fully agree, he is doing things better at vfl level than he has in the past though.

In saying that, I don’t think he would go any better than Cripps, Hewett or Kennedy. Put any of those 3 in Dow’s role in the vfl and they would get 35-40 every week.

Add to that we haven’t even been playing hewett and kennedy in the same side each week, so Dow unfortunately offers us more of the same.

People are seduced by his burst from stoppages which you see maybe once a game which makes people think he is the 2nd coming of Chris Judd.

If he goes elsewhere he will only get regular games at a bottom 3 side. Not even sure he’d be automatic at Hawthorn or North, he would be at west coast.

 

[Brackets]

When has Dow ever run past and or kept up with his VFL opponent?


The unholy alliance must be back

You engage in a lot of Dow talk for someone that is sick of Dow talk.

 

[Beyond Blue]

McGovern still in?

Welp guess you can be as soft as you like and no one cares at Carlton. I was willing to buy into all the talk but no defence is worth a damn when you are relying on marshmelllow men.

Unfortunately for this week at least he’ll have to do as it was probably down to either him or Plowman but you’d imagine he is on notice with Marchbank a genuine alternative.

Footsteps McLovin aside the ins and outs seem around right.

 

[Broadside]

Why would a Carlton supporter change clubs if Dow is playing at another club next year? Crazy

It would be good to get angry at a different club

 

[M_I_G]

I whole heartedly agree with all the posts saying:
A) you have to change something when the thing ain’t working
B) his VFL form is too unreal to ignore
C) even those posts saying he is nothing more than a vfl player, our firsts are putting out sub-AFL standards of footy and effort

At a personal level you have to feel for him.
Who said we’d get more out of Kennedy forward and Dow midfield vs some of our forward choices? No doubt about it.